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Offline Steve Barber

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2022, 09:37:38 PM »
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I would love to debate any lone nutter in any forum at any time.

 Well....here's your opportunity.  Let it rip.

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2022, 09:37:38 PM »


Online David Von Pein

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2022, 12:08:57 AM »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2022, 02:07:31 AM »
As for old Vince, he's the same person who blew up the entire Manson killings into something more - the "we're going to take over the world" Helter Skelter theory when the Manson murders were nothing more than Manson seeking out someone who xxxxxxx him over. That's all it was so why anyone would think old Vince was the final and ultimate authority on JFK is nuts.

Exactly right, Michael. He was a charlatan his entire career.

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2022, 02:07:31 AM »


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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2022, 06:14:27 AM »
The funny thing about this case is that if not for the faked backyard photos, there was no solid evidence on Oswald. None. The entire case is based on after-the-fact innuendo and hearsay testimony. As for old Vince, he's the same person who blew up the entire Manson killings into something more - the "we're going to take over the world" Helter Skelter theory when the Manson murders were nothing more than Manson seeking out someone who xxxxxxx him over. That's all it was so why anyone would think old Vince was the final and ultimate authority on JFK is nuts.

A more detailed analysis of the book which belongs in the bonfires of BS history:

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/bugliosi-vincent-reclaiming-history-cranor

https://www.patspeer.com/reclaiminghistoryfromreclaiminghistory

No faked photos.

The HSCA Photographic Panel studied CE-133A, CE-133B, the negative of CE-133B and Oswald's camera (among many other items related to the photos, such as first generation prints of CE-133C).

The panel first performed a visual inspection of the photos, by use magnifiers and microscopes.  During this inspection, the panel made enlargements of the photos using various exposures and ranges of contrast.  These enlargements produced prints which ranged from very light to very dark.  In the darkest parts of the photos, the detail could be seen best in the lighter prints.  In the lightest parts of the photos, the detail could be seen best in the darker prints.  The panel felt this was the best opportunity of detecting any evidence of falsification anywhere in the pictures.

The panel also used digital image processing to determine if there were any unnatural edge lines or differences in grain structure or contrast.

Both photos (CE-133a and CE-133B) were also studied by the panel using stereoscopic techniques, which allowed the panel to see the photos in 3-D.  This method will detect forgeries in prints because it produces a photographic copy of a photograph.
 When viewed in stereo, these copies will not project a three-dimensional image unless made from different viewpoints along the same axis.  Retouching of the original photo can be detected when two photos depicting the same scene are viewed in stereo, the retouched print will not be on the same plane in which it should be lying; the items seen in the photo will be either in front of the plane or behind the plane.  Because of this, when viewed stereoscopically, fakery can easily be detected.

One final method the panel used to examine the photos was photogrammetrically.

Using all of these methods, the HSCA Photographic Panel detected no signs of forgery.

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2022, 07:41:06 PM »
I'll definitely read that Story of Vince PDF. Thanks for posting the link to it.

Yes, Bill, they were faked. And here's why. If you take away those photos, those are the only - ONLY - visual reference showing Oswald with the alleged weapons. Nobody, can place Oswald up in the 6th floor pulling the trigger. Nobody. And he was at the theater with the pistol because that's what someone told him to do - meet up at the theater and don't forget your gun. Further, he admitted he did not own a rifle but did own a pistol and his excuse was lame "That's what boys do, you know?"

Funnily enough, they actually went overboard with these faked photos. It wasn't enough to just show him holding up the rifle - they also threw in the alleged pistol [the one he brandished at the theater] and to top if off, the left-wing newspapers too. How do we know this was further faked? Simple. They never found those newspapers because holier-than-thou Ruth Paine just decided to throw them out. Uh huh, right. Just like she also typed up Oswald's letter that he handwrote. Just like she was constantly interjecting herself into these people's lives.

So take away the photos and you have zero xxxx evidence on him, all made up after the fact.

Oswald was not supposed to be alive and leaving that theater, Bill. It's as simple as that. Somehow he survived, which is why Jack "Oh, I did it to save Jackie the embarrassment of coming to Dallas" Ruby stepped in to do it on national TV no less.
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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2022, 11:32:31 PM »
No photos of James Earl Ray holding his rifle. I guess he was innocent.  ::)

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
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Offline Jim Brunsman

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Re: Happy 15th Anniversary To "Reclaiming History"
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2022, 06:20:06 AM »
Greetings Mr. Barber!
Where am I supposed to start in debating those who fell for one of the most ridiculous scams in American history?
A third grader can view the Zapruder film and give a more cogent analysis of what happened than anything I've ever heard from Bugliosi, Posner, or the disgraced Warren Omission. Use common sense, will ya?