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Offline Chris Bristow

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Emmet Hudson never dropped to the ground!
« on: May 08, 2022, 02:51:18 AM »
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For years I just accepted Emmet Hudson's WC testimony in which he said he very clearly heard that the shot came from the TSB because he had dropped to the ground by then. He said when the 3rd shot came I was close to the ground" and "when you are on the ground It is a whole lot clearer".
 He states the guy next to him dropped to the ground first and kept telling Emmet to "Get down their shooting the president!". Emmet said he heeded the advice and  sat next to him.
  Emmet Hudson was one of the closest to the theorized knoll shooter position, only 40 feet away and the bullet would have come within 12 feet of him.
 He testified that when he initially said the bullet came from behind he really meant behind JFK not behind him at the knoll fence.
 So this very detailed account from a witness so close to the knoll is strong evidence for no shot coming from the knoll. But his entire account of he and the guy next to him dropping to the ground is completely false!
 The films of that day show Hudson many times. The only time we don't see him and the the other guy standing there is for 5.75 seconds is after Willis 5 and before the Muchmore frames starting at Z 308 thru to Z 338. By then the other guy is turning to run and he disappear into oblivion, he never dropped down! Then again after less than 1 second gap we see him in Nix. He is seen in Muchmore and Nix standing right through the head shot till the Nix frame equaling approx Z frame 350.  Hudson is starting to turn away but all the shots have already happened. To late to drop and hear a shot.
 There was never a point during the 2nd or 3rd shot that Hudson ever had time to drop down. Only one second between Willis 5 and the 2nd shot. No time for one guy to drop then ask Hudson to get down before he drops too. Before, during and after the last shot we see him standing the whole time. In Z 413 we see his hat through the Pyrocanthus bush and that hat is approx 6 feet of the ground if located on the steps where Hudson was.
  All these years of looking at the films and reading testimony I missed this. But it is undeniable that Emmet Hudson's testimony is completely unreliable.
 

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Emmet Hudson never dropped to the ground!
« on: May 08, 2022, 02:51:18 AM »


Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Emmet Hudson never dropped to the ground!
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2022, 03:11:35 AM »
For years I just accepted Emmet Hudson's WC testimony in which he said he very clearly heard that the shot came from the TSB because he had dropped to the ground by then. He said when the 3rd shot came I was close to the ground" and "when you are on the ground It is a whole lot clearer".
 He states the guy next to him dropped to the ground first and kept telling Emmet to "Get down their shooting the president!". Emmet said he heeded the advice and  sat next to him.
  Emmet Hudson was one of the closest to the theorized knoll shooter position, only 40 feet away and the bullet would have come within 12 feet of him.
 He testified that when he initially said the bullet came from behind he really meant behind JFK not behind him at the knoll fence.
 So this very detailed account from a witness so close to the knoll is strong evidence for no shot coming from the knoll. But his entire account of he and the guy next to him dropping to the ground is completely false!
 The films of that day show Hudson many times. The only time we don't see him and the the other guy standing there is for 5.75 seconds is after Willis 5 and before the Muchmore frames starting at Z 308 thru to Z 338. By then the other guy is turning to run and he disappear into oblivion, he never dropped down! Then again after less than 1 second gap we see him in Nix. He is seen in Muchmore and Nix standing right through the head shot till the Nix frame equaling approx Z frame 350.  Hudson is starting to turn away but all the shots have already happened. To late to drop and hear a shot.
 There was never a point during the 2nd or 3rd shot that Hudson ever had time to drop down. Only one second between Willis 5 and the 2nd shot. No time for one guy to drop then ask Hudson to get down before he drops too. Before, during and after the last shot we see him standing the whole time. In Z 413 we see his hat through the Pyrocanthus bush and that hat is approx 6 feet of the ground if located on the steps where Hudson was.
  All these years of looking at the films and reading testimony I missed this. But it is undeniable that Emmet Hudson's testimony is completely unreliable.


It just makes you wonder why he would be so specific in recounting these events...


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Emmet Hudson never dropped to the ground!
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2022, 03:37:36 AM »

It just makes you wonder why he would be so specific in recounting these events...

I wouldn't worry about what Emmet Hudson said.....   He wasn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree....

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Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Emmet Hudson never dropped to the ground!
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2022, 08:57:36 AM »
Hi, Here you go with Mr. Hudson and Mr. Mudd on the ground in Bond 4. Sincerely yours, Michael

 

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Offline Chris Bristow

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Re: Emmet Hudson never dropped to the ground!
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2022, 11:57:33 AM »
Yes I'm aware of that Bond photo. But that is about 35 seconds after the last shot.  We see Hargis already returning to his bike and the limo reached the underpass and left the plaza about 25 seconds earlier. So it doesn't really help Emmett's case.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Emmet Hudson never dropped to the ground!
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2022, 01:31:15 PM »
Dropping to the ground is supposed to let him hear where the shots are coming from better? What science supports that idea? Maybe he had watched too many western movies where they actually do put an ear to the railroad track rail to hear a train coming better….   ???

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Offline Michael Welch

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2022, 11:57:03 PM »

The Bell film is even earlier. Sincerely yours, Michael