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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: I'm not getting in the car.
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2022, 03:47:33 AM »
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I have answered all these questions on the the other board.

You know that.That would not necessarily make it a theory being that the lone gunman theory is a demonstrated proven covered up fraud.

OK. You claim that you are not a 'Conspiracy Theory Believer'. Instead, you are a 'Conspiracy Fact Believer'. The truth is that you are a CTer.

It is surprising how many CTers are reluctant to admit that they are CTers. That is not true of LNers. I have never met a LNer who says 'I'm not really a LNer. I just believe the truth'.

I am a LNer. One who believes that Oswald probably did murder President Kennedy and did so alone. But, of course, this belief, like all my beliefs, are subject to change with new evidence. Unlike your beliefs, which you know to be true. And your belief in a conspiracy to murder President Kennedy can never be reversed.

I believe you also said this was done, in part, to allow the United States to get into the Vietnam war.

Believers in Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracies always claim they are actually Small-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy believers. They may write one month that this group was involved in the conspiracy. And another group a month later. But when challenged, they par down their list a lot and say just a small number was involved. But, they give themselves away by stating the goal. It's always a goal that would require a large number of people.

Like a conspiracy to hide the existence of alien spacecrafts, even though they are fairly common. Requiring a small army of men in black with memory erasers.

Or to steer the United States into a major war it should not be getting into. Which would also require a large number of people.

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Re: I'm not getting in the car.
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: I'm not getting in the car.
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2022, 04:52:44 AM »
I am a LNer. One who believes that Oswald probably did murder President Kennedy...
"Probably"? That removes certainty.
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subject to change with new evidence
  The old evidence proves my point.
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which you know to be true.
The truth is--
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--all men are liars.
.. Ps 116;11

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: I'm not getting in the car.
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2022, 08:03:15 AM »

I am a LNer. One who believes that Oswald probably did murder President Kennedy...

"Probably"? That removes certainty.

Yes. It does. Nothing is certain.

The old evidence proves my point.

If you say so.

The truth is--
--all men are liars.
Ps 116;11

Yeah? And why should I believe anyone who writes that? Even if it is in the bible?

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: I'm not getting in the car.
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2022, 04:46:09 AM »
And now magically the Jan 6 SS texts all disappear. This is a cover up and all involved must go to prison. 

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Re: I'm not getting in the car.
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2022, 04:34:14 AM »
Secret Service Official at Center of Probe Retires

"Tony Ornato, the senior Secret Service official who served as a top aide in Donald Trump’s White House and faced scrutiny from the Jan. 6 select committee earlier this summer, announced his retirement Monday,” Politico reports.

“The agency confirmed Ornato’s retirement, which was announced internally earlier in the day. He’s the latest high-level official in the Secret Service to announce his departure in recent weeks. Spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi said Ornato — who joined the Secret Service in 1997 — became eligible for retirement earlier this year and leaves the agency in good standing.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/29/secret-service-jan-6-probe-trump-00054127

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Offline Joe Elliott

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« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2022, 03:46:07 AM »

Secret Service Official at Center of Probe Retires

"Tony Ornato, the senior Secret Service official who served as a top aide in Donald Trump’s White House and faced scrutiny from the Jan. 6 select committee earlier this summer, announced his retirement Monday,” Politico reports.

“The agency confirmed Ornato’s retirement, which was announced internally earlier in the day. He’s the latest high-level official in the Secret Service to announce his departure in recent weeks. Spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi said Ornato — who joined the Secret Service in 1997 — became eligible for retirement earlier this year and leaves the agency in good standing.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/29/secret-service-jan-6-probe-trump-00054127

I wonder what one would have to do to leave the Secret Serivce in bad standing?

In my opinion, Tony Ornato was a much worse Secret Service agent than William Greer and Roy Kellerman, who have been severely criticized for their slow reaction to shooting during a Presidential motorcade escorted by backfiring motorcycles.

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Re: I'm not getting in the car.
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2022, 04:20:30 AM »
Pence's Secret Service detail at Capitol on Jan. 6 were "starting to fear for their own lives" as violence escalated, witness tells select committee

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pence-secret-service-jan-6-capitol-fear-lives/

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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2022, 10:57:13 PM »
Secret Service, NSC feared Pence would be trapped at Capitol on Jan. 6
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/mike-pence-jan-6-hearing-insurrection