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Online Sean Kneringer

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2022, 04:08:49 PM »
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Except the CTers will hate hate hate the Mexico City segment because his handwriting is on the hotel register and the Russians confirmed that they met and spoke with the real LHO.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2022, 04:20:56 PM »
Except the CTers will hate hate hate the Mexico City segment because his handwriting is on the hotel register and the Russians confirmed that they met and spoke with the real LHO.
Yep. And twenty years ago or so the same people who insist he was impersonated would have been saying, "Interview the Soviet embassy people! They'll expose the impersonation." So the Embassy people are interviewed and say the man they met was Oswald. Is that now accepted? Of course not. It's still not enough. For some, it's never enough.

The three KGB agents - senior agents - met him over two days and for several hours. They were shown the photo of the supposed impostor and all said that that was not the man who identified himself as Oswald.
On the second meeting, a Saturday, he is, they say, acting very erratically and nervously and at one point pulls out a revolver. They are stunned and are studying him very carefully. "Who is this guy?"

One of the agents, Oleg Nechiporenko, wrote this (from his book "Passport to Assassination"):



So an impostor does this? Draws very close attention to himself? Sorry, that makes no sense to me.

I'll also suggest that a person in this condition, who believes he is being persecuted by the US government, who believes his life is in danger just might do something drastic. With a rifle. And with a revolver. The revolver he said he needed to protect himself.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2022, 04:42:18 PM »
Posting the police mug shot is a stupid (and desperate ) attempt at framing Lee Oswald.   Lee said that he was in the first floor lunchroom at the time that President Kennedy passed by the TSBD.   And that claim is verified by his statement that he saw Jarman and Norman walk by the lunchroom as he sat there eating his lunch.  Jarman and Norman confirmed Lee's claim.   They swore that they did in deed walk by the lunchroom at 12:27.

Give it up Von P ......  You're looking more and more foolish in your attempts to make the fairy tale believable. 

Referring to the travesty of framing Lee Oswald as a "fairy tale" is wrong.....  Fairy tales are happy and fun fictional tales. There is nothing happy, or funny, about the lies that have been presented in the  desperate attempt to convict Lee Oswald.   Posting the police mug shot is a really cheap shot, and a clear sign of your desperation Von P.

Cue violins: Yet another loser's lament from the far side of the lunatic fringe
Stop sobbing. And it was Oswald taking the real cheap shots

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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2022, 05:17:47 PM »
Except the CTers will hate hate hate the Mexico City segment because his handwriting is on the hotel register and the Russians confirmed that they met and spoke with the real LHO.

Yeah, sure... and the CIA photos showed.....  uh, hang on a second.... never mind.

Btw there is nothing to love or hate concerning the Mexico City segment. It's utterly insignificant for the anwser to the question who killed Kennedy.

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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2022, 05:46:50 PM »
Yeah, sure... and the CIA photos showed

A person of interest they misidentified as Oswald. There's no proof that the man in question ever tried to impersonate Oswald.

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Btw there is nothing to love or hate concerning the Mexico City segment. It's utterly insignificant for the anwser to the question who killed Kennedy.

It didn't speak to Oswald's desperation at the time? You think he was down there for sightseeing? Rejected by the consulates and therefore stuck in the US, he took it out on Kennedy.

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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2022, 05:59:26 PM »
A person of interest they misidentified as Oswald. There's no proof that the man in question ever tried to impersonate Oswald.

It didn't speak to Oswald's desperation at the time? You think he was down there for sightseeing? Rejected by the consulates and therefore stuck in the US, he took it out on Kennedy.
1. An erratic behaving, unstable acting person shows up at the Soviet Embassy claiming to be persecuted by the US government. He brings out a loaded revolver and says he needs it to protect himself. He further says things will end terribly - "They'll kill me..." - if he's not allowed into the USSR.

2. He is later accused of the assassination of the president.

But the evidence in #1 tells us nothing about #2? Nothing about the person? His willingness to act in desperation?

The man is disturbed, he's paranoid, he's having emotional problems. He thinks the US government is out to get him.
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2022, 06:06:36 PM »
A person of interest they misidentified as Oswald. There's no proof that the man in question ever tried to impersonate Oswald.

It didn't speak to Oswald's desperation at the time? You think he was down there for sightseeing? Rejected by the consulates and therefore stuck in the US, he took it out on Kennedy.

It didn't speak to Oswald's desperation at the time?

Says who? What desperation are you talking about?

You think he was down there for sightseeing?

I don't think he was there. The "evidence" that he was is ambivalent at best

Rejected by the consulates and therefore stuck in the US, he took it out on Kennedy.

There it is again; a story is told for the purpose of letting people jump to conclusions not supported by the evidence.

The simple truth is that you don't know the first time about Oswald's actual mind set, nor do you know for sure what, if anything, about the Mexico story is actually true, but you're quite happy to let yourself be fooled by a highly questionable story into believing that the Mexico trip could be, or even was, the motive for Kennedy's murder. When you become more rational, get back to me.


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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2022, 06:09:20 PM »
Yep. And twenty years ago or so the same people who insist he was impersonated would have been saying, "Interview the Soviet embassy people! They'll expose the impersonation." So the Embassy people are interviewed and say the man they met was Oswald. Is that now accepted? Of course not. It's still not enough. For some, it's never enough.

The three KGB agents - senior agents - met him over two days and for several hours. They were shown the photo of the supposed impostor and all said that that was not the man who identified himself as Oswald.
On the second meeting, a Saturday, he is, they say, acting very erratically and nervously and at one point pulls out a revolver. They are stunned and are studying him very carefully. "Who is this guy?"

One of the agents, Oleg Nechiporenko, wrote this (from his book "Passport to Assassination"):



So an impostor does this? Draws very close attention to himself? Sorry, that makes no sense to me.

I'll also suggest that a person in this condition, who believes he is being persecuted by the US government, who believes his life is in danger just might do something drastic. With a rifle. And with a revolver. The revolver he said he needed to protect himself.

So an impostor does this? Draws very close attention to himself? Sorry, that makes no sense to me.

Very silly. The entire purpose of an impostor would be to draw attention to himself so that people will remember. Keeping a low profile would be self-defeating.