Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!

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Online Jerry Organ

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #100 on: August 14, 2022, 02:57:59 PM »
Oh, boy. You are years behind the information curve. Have you heard about the group of Hollywood film experts who have identified numerous indications of alteration in the Zapruder film? Have you looked at David Mantik and Doug Horne's presentations on clear, compelling evidence of alteration?

If by Hollywood, you mean Ollie Stone, forget it. Mantik and Horne are fruitcakes.

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Here's just one indication for you: In the Z film, the cloud of blood and brain matter disappears far too quickly, impossibly quickly. Tests have proved that this cloud should have remained visible for at least six frames, but it vanishes in less than two frames. That is physically impossible.

Nice deflection and dodge. I take it you concede you were wrong with your claim about "the impossibly fast movement of Brehm's son".

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« Reply #100 on: August 14, 2022, 02:57:59 PM »

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« Reply #101 on: August 14, 2022, 05:22:10 PM »

Here's just one indication for you: In the Z film, the cloud of blood and brain matter disappears far too quickly, impossibly quickly. Tests have proved that this cloud should have remained visible for at least six frames, but it vanishes in less than two frames. That is physically impossible.
The speed of the particles and  droplets has to be taken into account. In the time that z313 was exposed-25 ms-some of the parts of the cloud had travelled 3 feet. In another 5 full frames or 275 ms. they would have gone 33 feet farther. (We know that brain and blood covered the car hood). The cloud did not go away. It just expanded rapidly and no longer look like a cloud.

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« Reply #101 on: August 14, 2022, 05:22:10 PM »

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« Reply #102 on: August 14, 2022, 11:51:44 PM »
Oh, boy. You are years behind the information curve. Have you heard about the group of Hollywood film experts who have identified numerous indications of alteration in the Zapruder film? Have you looked at David Mantik and Doug Horne's presentations on clear, compelling evidence of alteration?

Here's just one indication for you: In the Z film, the cloud of blood and brain matter disappears far too quickly, impossibly quickly. Tests have proved that this cloud should have remained visible for at least six frames, but it vanishes in less than two frames. That is physically impossible.



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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #102 on: August 14, 2022, 11:51:44 PM »

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #103 on: August 15, 2022, 12:38:30 AM »
If by Hollywood, you mean Ollie Stone, forget it. Mantik and Horne are fruitcakes.
I wouldn't call you a fruitcake... mainly because there is no apparent presence of berries.. nuts..or any such produce that is otherwise palatable.
You might stop calling those with whom you disagree these adverse labels [kook, nut, quack etc]--- after a fashion...it becomes extremely juvenile.

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« Reply #103 on: August 15, 2022, 12:38:30 AM »

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #104 on: August 16, 2022, 01:41:38 AM »
Oh, boy. You are years behind the information curve. Have you heard about the group of Hollywood film experts who have identified numerous indications of alteration in the Zapruder film? Have you looked at David Mantik and Doug Horne's presentations on clear, compelling evidence of alteration?

Here's just one indication for you: In the Z film, the cloud of blood and brain matter disappears far too quickly, impossibly quickly. Tests have proved that this cloud should have remained visible for at least six frames, but it vanishes in less than two frames. That is physically impossible.

 Totally false.   The cloud we see coming off the head would never last that long in the film frames with the 15-25MPH wind speed that was blowing in DP that day.  The wind blew the matter to rear, onto Hargis, Martin--plus they rode into to it, and some of it landed on the trunk lid.  The majority (heavier) matter went forward all over the car, the Connally's, Greer, Kellerman, the windshield, the sun visors (both sides of the right visor), the hood of the car, the side rails and the interior, and not to mention what would have landed in the street.  Skull fragments from the top pf President Kennedy's head landed several yards away, SW of the car at the time of the fatal shot, and these were picked up by 3 different people.  Seymour Weitzman, David Burris,, and Billy Harper.  The Burros and Harper fragments were turned over to the authorities.  The Burros fragment was shipped in a small Neiman-Markus box to Washington and given to George Burkely.  These skull fragments can clearly be seen flying high above the limousine at the time of the fatal shot, at a speed of 80+ MPH, according to Dr. John Lattimer.  The speed can be calculated by viewing the Zapruder film.  The same fragments can clearly be seen in high contrast, clear prints of the Orville Nix film as well as the Marie Muchmore film, which coincide with the Zapruder film. 
 
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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2022, 03:52:02 AM »
Oh, boy. You are years behind the information curve. Have you heard about the group of Hollywood film experts who have identified numerous indications of alteration in the Zapruder film? Have you looked at David Mantik and Doug Horne's presentations on clear, compelling evidence of alteration?

Here's just one indication for you: In the Z film, the cloud of blood and brain matter disappears far too quickly, impossibly quickly. Tests have proved that this cloud should have remained visible for at least six frames, but it vanishes in less than two frames. That is physically impossible.

Who are those Hollywood film experts? What are their names and where can we view their analysis of the Zapruder film?

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« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2022, 03:52:02 AM »

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #106 on: August 25, 2022, 12:44:53 AM »
I take it you haven't heard about the numerous Hollywood film experts who examined logarithmic color scans from a 35 mm negative of the Zapruder film and concluded there are black patches or crude animations that obscure the back of JFK's head?

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« Reply #106 on: August 25, 2022, 12:44:53 AM »

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #107 on: August 25, 2022, 01:22:28 AM »
I take it you haven't heard about the numerous Hollywood film experts who examined logarithmic color scans from a 35 mm negative of the Zapruder film and concluded there are black patches or crude animations that obscure the back of JFK's head?

Strong sunshine creates deep shadow on the opposite side of objects, including Kennedy,
which in turn cast shadows on other objects and the ground

No pink mist is going to stand up against a car moving at speed and into a gusting wind

You seem to have missed a few basics
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« Reply #107 on: August 25, 2022, 01:22:28 AM »

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #108 on: August 25, 2022, 01:38:08 AM »
They must have put the same "patches" over the head in the Muchmore film and Moorman photo. :D

What did these unnamed "experts" say about the Brehm lad and "magically" disappearing head shot debris cloud?

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« Reply #108 on: August 25, 2022, 01:38:08 AM »

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #109 on: August 25, 2022, 02:53:53 AM »
I don't think that film was altered.
It shows enough that should convince anyone that the major wound to the head was just like most folks described as they saw it.
JFK was struck between the right eye and the right ear.
Perhaps an instant before that shot was a bullet square to the back of the head that caused a slight forward bob.
It is a wonder that the film wasn't "LOST".


 

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