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Offline Paul May

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11/22/21
« on: November 22, 2021, 12:15:24 PM »
58 years ago today.

What do we know with absolute certainty?

1. Lee Harvey Oswald, by himself and unassisted shot and killed John F. Kennedy.

Offline Robert Reeves

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2021, 12:19:03 PM »
The institutions in USA are corrupt, they lie, and they manipulate the truth. The government(s) in USA refuse to release all the documents related to the JFK assassination.

But yet, lone shooter believers do not seem to question these facts.
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Offline Paul May

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2021, 12:42:54 PM »
The institutions in USA are corrupt, they lie, and they manipulate the truth. The government(s) in USA refuse to release all the documents related to the JFK assassination.

But yet, lone shooter believers do not seem to question these facts.

And yet, you did not answer the question.

Offline Robert Reeves

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2021, 01:25:57 PM »
And yet, you did not answer the question.

I answered

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What do we know with absolute certainty?

The institutions in USA are corrupt, they lie, and manipulate the truth.

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Your reply, "1. Lee Harvey Oswald, by himself and unassisted shot and killed John F. Kennedy." -- this holds almost no weight, these days. Everything is questionable in the post Iraq-War lies of Bush. That was your president! Bush confidently lied to the world, assured of no consequences. Because that's what the institutions have done to their own people for so long there. Facts are easily manipulated in USA, and if not, then they're invented. Just another event in the procession of evil that has taken place, on 11/22/63, and since.

Where do you think USA stands right now in the world, a trusted ally? a trusted partner? a joke of a nation full of people twisted and manipulated by its own media?

Your institutions are not fit to serve the people and I don't blame the calls to burn it all down and start again. USA is almost done. I would ideally like to see a truth curtain go up between the UK and USA. Something similar to what China uses to keep themselves being also being imploded by American stupidity. They encourage their kids to be doctors and scientists. Not twerking transexuals. To have almost all cultural influences of USA kept away from vulnerable minds here I think would be appropriate.

The assassination of JFK and the continual crediting of a lone shooter scenario (by some) are just another (of many) ticking time-bomb's when it comes to USA's home-truths. I guess that's brought out in the denial of releasing the files regarding the assassination, why else? American's maybe cannot handle the real truth(s) of their nation. Exceptional, willful, ignorance!

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2021, 02:03:44 PM »
58 years ago today.

What do we know with absolute certainty?

1. Lee Harvey Oswald, by himself and unassisted shot and killed John F. Kennedy.
Who -- Hickey.
Where -- in Queen Mary.
With -- an AR15.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2021, 02:12:03 PM »
  Lee Harvey Oswald, by himself and unassisted shot and killed John F. Kennedy.
Are you willing to stake your life...even your eternal soul on that? 

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2021, 05:56:18 PM »
The institutions in USA are corrupt, they lie, and they manipulate the truth. The government(s) in USA refuse to release all the documents related to the JFK assassination.

But yet, lone shooter believers do not seem to question these facts.

The government can lie and manipulate the truth in the same world in which a kook takes his rifle and kills the president. Those are not mutually exclusive concepts as you imply.   It's the evidence that is conclusive of the issue.   And that evidence links Oswald to the crime beyond any doubt.

Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2021, 07:03:29 PM »
The government can lie and manipulate the truth in the same world in which a kook takes his rifle and kills the president. Those are not mutually exclusive concepts as you imply.   It's the evidence that is conclusive of the issue.   And that evidence links Oswald to the crime beyond any doubt.
One of many of the fundamental differences between the two sides is that the conspiracy side - those that believe there was a large scale government conspiracy behind the murder - think "the government" has nearly unlimited power and ability.

We recognize the limits of the government, how human beings behave, how government bureaucracies work and don't.  The political scientist Hannah Arendt, she of the famous "banality of evil" line, put it best. She said, "Oligarchy is rule by the minority, democracy is rule by the majority; bureaucracy is rule by nobody." That someone thinks these bureaucracies can be controlled for half a century to pull off and cover up the assassination is astonishing. They just can't.

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2021, 07:37:04 PM »
The government can lie and manipulate the truth in the same world in which a kook takes his rifle and kills the president. Those are not mutually exclusive concepts as you imply.   It's the evidence that is conclusive of the issue.   And that evidence links Oswald to the crime beyond any doubt.

And that evidence links Oswald to the crime beyond any doubt.

So far, on every account, you've miserably failed to support your claim with facts.

So has Paul May.

What's new?

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: 11/22/21
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2021, 07:59:34 PM »
And that evidence links Oswald to the crime beyond any doubt.

So far, on every account, you've miserably failed to support your claim with facts.

So has Paul May.

What's new?

One of the best indicators, if not the best, that the official narrative is a fairy tale, is the fact that no LN I have ever encountered is able and/or willing to defend the questionable claims made in the narrative with solid conclusive evidence and/or arguments.

All you will ever get from somebody like "Richard Smith" is erroneously being called a contrarian (which is really a person who rejects popular opinion, so the term does not apply here) and being told that the evidence against Oswald is beyond doubt. Other LNs will simply ignore hard questions being asked or come up with utterly stupid theories to "explain" obvious problems with the evidence.

 

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