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Online Fred Litwin

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JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« on: November 19, 2021, 02:27:06 PM »
JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
Oliver Stone's so-called documentary raises the issue of the Oswald backyard photographs. Do we really need to rehash this - the evidence on this is conclusive - the photographs are legitimate.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/jfk-revisited-were-the-oswald-backyard-photographs-faked

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2021, 02:38:32 PM »
The most incredible thing about Stone's nonsense is how many people he claims were involved.  Everything is faked or the product of lies.  When you add up the number of individuals that he claims directly or indirectly participated in the conspiracy it must be hundreds or even thousands.  Many are just random people.  But they all lied for some unknown reason.  Having to cast doubt on the evidence as the product of lies or fakery is an implicit acknowledgement on Stone's part that the evidence links Oswald to the crime.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2021, 04:28:20 PM »
The most incredible thing about Stone's nonsense is how many people he claims were involved.  Everything is faked or the product of lies.  When you add up the number of individuals that he claims directly or indirectly participated in the conspiracy it must be hundreds or even thousands.  Many are just random people.  But they all lied for some unknown reason.  Having to cast doubt on the evidence as the product of lies or fakery is an implicit acknowledgement on Stone's part that the evidence links Oswald to the crime.


 Having to cast doubt on the evidence as the product of lies or fakery is an implicit acknowledgement on Stone's part that the evidence links Oswald to the crime.

The same could be said for the naysayers who frequent this forum. Yet they would never admit that the Warren Commission got anything right.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2021, 08:11:56 PM »

 Having to cast doubt on the evidence as the product of lies or fakery is an implicit acknowledgement on Stone's part that the evidence links Oswald to the crime.

The same could be said for the naysayers who frequent this forum. Yet they would never admit that the Warren Commission got anything right.
They reject any and every claim by the WC regardless of its significance to the event. It can say nothing about Oswald's guilt, be completely irrelevant to that question, but it has to be denied. Why? Because it's part of the "official story".

"Official story." They argue a tautology: the WC is supposedly the "official story" and so must be rejected because, well, it's the "official story." I have no idea what "official story" means since it was never approved by any element of the government and thus never made "official." In fact, the government authorized several follow up investigations, e.g., the Rockefeller Commission, the HSCA. So much for being the "official story."

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2021, 08:41:19 PM »
A few notes on the Backyard photos:

- There are visible differences between the rifle in the BYP and the Sixth Floor rifle.

- The Sixth floor rifle appears to be a different Carcano model than the one Oswald allegedly ordered.

- Marina says she didn't take the photos fwiw. I've long held that Marina isn't a credible witness due to her willingness to lie and misremember stuff but LN'ers almost always cherry-pick the testimony from Marina that supports their narrative while downplaying her credibility problems.

- I have no idea what to think of the rifle and backyard photo controversies. It isn't the most important issue in my opinion. It's just one of many weird things in the Kennedy assassination investigations.


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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2021, 08:51:17 PM »
Marina certainly said she took the photos.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2021, 08:53:20 PM »
Marina certainly said she took the photos.

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She said she took “one photo” (it looks like several different poses were photographed) and today she denies ever taking the photos.

If you’re going to lean so much on Marina’s testimony, don’t cherry-pick or at least acknowledge that she’s given inconsistent testimony…
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2021, 09:26:54 PM »
She said she took “one photo” (it looks like several different poses were photographed) and today she denies ever taking the photos.

If you’re going to lean so much on Marina’s testimony, don’t cherry-pick or at least acknowledge that she’s given inconsistent testimony…

If she took one photo, that means at least one BY photo is authentic and depict Oswald holding the rifle.  What would then be the point of any conspirator faking the other photos?  It doesn't make any sense.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2021, 10:21:03 PM »
Did you read her HSCA testimony. She said she took two photographs but she wasn't sure how many. They showed
her the third photograph, and she just shrugged. Yeah, ok..I must have taken three.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2021, 10:21:14 PM »
If she took one photo, that means at least one BY photo is authentic and depict Oswald holding the rifle.  What would then be the point of any conspirator faking the other photos?  It doesn't make any sense.

The photos are very incriminating for Oswald regardless of who took them.

It seems to me that the questions about the discrepancies with the Carcano rifle are the bigger concern.


 

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