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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Final Conclusion*
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2021, 01:02:49 PM »
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Talk about a strawman.  No LNer in history has ever suggested that the fact that Oswald left his wedding ring at home that morning "makes him guilty."  LOL.  Rather, in the context of the totality of circumstances and evidence that links Oswald to this crime, it is just another brick in the wall of his guilt.  For the first and only time of his marriage according to Marina, Oswald left his wedding ring at home that morning after an unscheduled visit to the Paine home (where he also kept his rifle).   The same day he would be arrested for the assassination of JFK.  What a coincidence.  Tell us again how you are impartial and not a CTer.  Whew.

Talk about a strawman.

So, you don't know what a strawman actually is.... that explains a lot  Thumb1:

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2021, 09:55:17 PM »
It's interesting (but not really) that Mr. "I challenge all claims equally and it's a lie to say otherwise" is completely silent about challenging Patrick Jackson's conspiracy claims. No, he makes a claim up about the wedding ring. No lone assassin believer has said what he claims. It's not just a strawman it's an invisible man. It's nowhere to be seen.

There are about a dozen posts/threads here - the Stone movie, another conspiracy book, et cetera - making conspiracy arguments. And Mr. "I challenge all claims equally" has posted zero times at any of those challenging those allegations.

I do agree with him on one thing, though. Somebody in this exchange with him is making things up. They certainly are.

Please show us all where I actually said what you have quoted here;

"I challenge all claims equally and it's a lie to say otherwise"

or be exposed as a liar.

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« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2021, 08:25:43 AM »
Talk about a strawman.  No LNer in history has ever suggested that the fact that Oswald left his wedding ring at home that morning "makes him guilty."  LOL.  Rather, in the context of the totality of circumstances and evidence that links Oswald to this crime, it is just another brick in the wall of his guilt.  For the first and only time of his marriage according to Marina, Oswald left his wedding ring at home that morning after an unscheduled visit to the Paine home (where he also kept his rifle).   The same day he would be arrested for the assassination of JFK.  What a coincidence.  Tell us again how you are impartial and not a CTer.  Whew.
Wall of Oswald guilt is full of missing bricks from the very begining and LNrs are trying to fill it for 58 years now. Not a single brick in your wall is 100% true evidence for his guilt. It seems that the only true thing about Oswald and 11/22/63 is that he was working at TSBD. Everything else is conspiracy to frame him.

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Offline Rick Plant

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« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2021, 08:51:33 AM »
Talk about a strawman.

So, you don't know what a strawman actually is.... that explains a lot  Thumb1:

Most people who use the term "strawman" have no clue what it means. They use it as a desperation attempt when they've lost the debate as a pathetic way to accuse you of being wrong when they no longer have a valid argument to make. It's a gaslighters tactic.   

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« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2021, 03:59:46 PM »
Talk about a strawman.

So, you don't know what a strawman actually is.... that explains a lot  Thumb1:

Another strawman.  You can tell as Martin/Otto get increasingly hysterical that their silly arguments are coming apart.  The posts get shorter, contain insults, and do not even attempt to address any substantive points being made.  Destination rabbit hole!

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2021, 04:18:43 PM »
Another strawman.  You can tell as Martin/Otto get increasingly hysterical that their silly arguments are coming apart.  The posts get shorter, contain insults, and do not even attempt to address any substantive points being made.  Destination rabbit hole!

Another strawman.

Nope... not a strawman at all, but you wouldn't understand that as it has already been established that you don't know the meaning of the word.

Beyond that, there isn't much reason for lengthy replies to the BS you write as you ignore it anyway and keep on repeating the same crap over and over again.

do not even attempt to address any substantive points being made

Could it be that you also do not know the meaning of the words "substantive points"?
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« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2021, 11:41:31 AM »
Wall of Oswald guilt is full of missing bricks from the very begining and LNrs are trying to fill it for 58 years now. Not a single brick in your wall is 100% true evidence for his guilt.
Just like no single pixel in a photograph is proof of the overall picture.  The case against Oswald, as set out by Vincent Bugliosi, is not made up of 53 facts each of which prove Oswald guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by themselves.  Rather, those 53 very probable facts together provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt of his guilt. 

One undisputable fact, however, that has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, is that JFK did not fake his own assassination.
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« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2021, 04:19:22 AM »
One undisputable fact, however, that has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, is that JFK did not fake his own assassination.
Proved by who? It was never an object of any official investigation so you absolutely can not write what you wrote.