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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #1632 on: September 16, 2023, 07:32:08 PM »
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Are you quibbling about it being a text message instead of an "email"?   Wow.  How is it nonconclusive when Dirty Hunter sends a text message to his own daughter indicating that "I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family Fro (sic) 30 years. It's really hard. But don't worry unlike Pop I won't make you give me half your salary,"  You don't believe that is evidence that Dirty Hunter was paying his father?  What you do you think it means?  And you think that Joe Biden as VP of the United States would have access to conference call information 20 times?  You don't just dial your son's telephone number and jump on a conference call bridge.  There are different access codes for each such call.  Those have to be sent to the indvidual parties.  You also don't think there might be a security risk for the VP to talk to his son while unknown other parties were on the call?  It's laugahble.

Are you quibbling about it being a text message instead of an "email"?   Wow.

Because accuracy matters, even if you clearly believe it doesn't matter at all.

How is it nonconclusive when Dirty Hunter sends a text message to his own daughter indicating that "I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family Fro (sic) 30 years. It's really hard. But don't worry unlike Pop I won't make you give me half your salary,"

Because it is inconclusive. You don't know the context and you (as well as that idiot Comer) are jumping to conclusions.

You don't believe that is evidence that Dirty Hunter was paying his father?

No, it's not evidence of anything. You just want it to be... Again, you don't know the context and/or what precisely Hunter was talking about.

What you do you think it means?

I have no idea what it means and neither do you. You are just making up your own reality, as per usual.

And you think that Joe Biden as VP of the United States would have access to conference call information 20 times?  You don't just dial your son's telephone number and jump on a conference call bridge.  There are different access codes for each such call.  Those have to be sent to the indvidual parties.  You also don't think there might be a security risk for the VP to talk to his son while unknown other parties were on the call?

BS... Hunter's business partner confirmed that Hunter talked to his dad just about every single day. Joe Biden wasn't calling in to a conference call. Hunter just put his mobile phone on speaker to have him say hello to the people he was with at the time. You have no way of knowing if any of the calls were actually made during the time Biden was VP, so again, you are jumping to all sorts of conclusions without knowing the actual facts...

But here's the bottom line; no matter how often Comer repeats the same old BS on TV or on his committee's website, when he was asked if he had any actual evidence against Joe Biden he said "I hope so"... Now that's pathetic!

Bring me actual conclusive evidence against Joe Biden and I'll be the first one to support an impeachment procedure, but what Comer is doing is a fishing expedition, just like the false Benghazi claims against Hillary Clinton and the Hunter Biden laptop charade. It is, and has been for years if not decades, the standard Republican strategy. Make as many claims as you can, no matter if they are true or not, to influence an upcoming election.

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« Reply #1633 on: September 17, 2023, 03:45:14 PM »
Are you quibbling about it being a text message instead of an "email"?   Wow.

Because accuracy matters, even if you clearly believe it doesn't matter at all.

How is it nonconclusive when Dirty Hunter sends a text message to his own daughter indicating that "I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family Fro (sic) 30 years. It's really hard. But don't worry unlike Pop I won't make you give me half your salary,"

Because it is inconclusive. You don't know the context and you (as well as that idiot Comer) are jumping to conclusions.

You don't believe that is evidence that Dirty Hunter was paying his father?

No, it's not evidence of anything. You just want it to be... Again, you don't know the context and/or what precisely Hunter was talking about.

What you do you think it means?

I have no idea what it means and neither do you. You are just making up your own reality, as per usual.

And you think that Joe Biden as VP of the United States would have access to conference call information 20 times?  You don't just dial your son's telephone number and jump on a conference call bridge.  There are different access codes for each such call.  Those have to be sent to the indvidual parties.  You also don't think there might be a security risk for the VP to talk to his son while unknown other parties were on the call?

BS... Hunter's business partner confirmed that Hunter talked to his dad just about every single day. Joe Biden wasn't calling in to a conference call. Hunter just put his mobile phone on speaker to have him say hello to the people he was with at the time. You have no way of knowing if any of the calls were actually made during the time Biden was VP, so again, you are jumping to all sorts of conclusions without knowing the actual facts...

But here's the bottom line; no matter how often Comer repeats the same old BS on TV or on his committee's website, when he was asked if he had any actual evidence against Joe Biden he said "I hope so"... Now that's pathetic!

Bring me actual conclusive evidence against Joe Biden and I'll be the first one to support an impeachment procedure, but what Comer is doing is a fishing expedition, just like the false Benghazi claims against Hillary Clinton and the Hunter Biden laptop charade. It is, and has been for years if not decades, the standard Republican strategy. Make as many claims as you can, no matter if they are true or not, to influence an upcoming election.

How exactly is it relevant to the accuracy of the content of a message whether it is in an email or text message form?  That is just your typical rabbit hole nonsense to deflect from the evidence. So again, Dirty Hunter sent his daughter a message in which he confirmed that he paid his families bills for thirty years including providing half of his salary to his "pop."  That is about as clear and unambiguous as it gets.  Dirty Hunter has confirmed that his father (aka the "big guy") was receiving a cut from his influence peddling scheme.  Of course, that is not the only item that confirms Ukraine Joe was part of this criminal conspiracy.  There are 21 other items on that list alone.  If there is one thing that has been confirmed it is that there is no such thing as "conclusive evidence" to you when it comes to any fact that you do not want to accept.  Here is the content of Dirty Hunter's message again for any reasonable person to make an assessment:

"I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family Fro (sic) 30 years. It's really hard. But don't worry unlike Pop I won't make you give me half your salary,"

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« Reply #1634 on: September 17, 2023, 03:52:43 PM »
Some more:

"In May 2017, James Gilliar, a Biden family associate, emailed Hunter Biden and other associates to formalize how they would divide the profit from their deal with CEFC, a Chinese Communist Party linked energy company. Gilliar indicated Joe Biden would receive 10 percent, which has been confirmed by former Biden family associate, Tony Bobulinski."

"On May 20, 2017, James Gilliar told Tony Bobulinksi, another business associate, ďDonít mention Joe being involved, itís only when u are face to face[.] I know u know that but they are paranoid[.]Ē

"In a September 21, 2017, email, Hunter Biden wrote that Joe Biden is his business partner and provided Joe Bidenís personal cell phone if the recipient seeks confirmation. Emails also show that Hunter Biden, CEFC officials, and Joe Biden would share offices under the Hudson West/CEFC/Biden Foundation name."

"The FBIís June 30, 2020 FD-1023 form contains allegations that then-Vice President Joe Biden allegedly engaged in an extortion scheme where he was paid $5 million in exchange for certain actions."

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« Reply #1635 on: September 17, 2023, 05:02:13 PM »
Some more:

"In May 2017, Hunter Biden and other associates to formalize how they would divide the profit from their deal with CEFC, a Chinese Communist Party linked energy company. Gilliar indicated Joe Biden would receive 10 percent, which has been confirmed by former Biden family associate, Tony Bobulinski."

"On May 20, 2017, James Gilliar told Tony Bobulinksi, another business associate, ďDonít mention Joe being involved, itís only when u are face to face[.] I know u know that but they are paranoid[.]Ē

"In a September 21, 2017, email, Hunter Biden wrote that Joe Biden is his business partner and provided Joe Bidenís personal cell phone if the recipient seeks confirmation. Emails also show that Hunter Biden, CEFC officials, and Joe Biden would share offices under the Hudson West/CEFC/Biden Foundation name."

"The FBIís June 30, 2020 FD-1023 form contains allegations that then-Vice President Joe Biden allegedly engaged in an extortion scheme where he was paid $5 million in exchange for certain actions."

More inconclusive BS

James Gilliar, a Biden family associate, emailed ......

James Gilliar told Tony Bobulinksi.....

Hunter Biden wrote

When are we going to see something that Joe Biden actually emailed, told or wrote himself?

People can write and say anything they like, but that doesn't make it true nor is it evidence of anything.

"The FBIís June 30, 2020 FD-1023 form contains allegations that then-Vice President Joe Biden allegedly engaged in an extortion scheme where he was paid $5 million in exchange for certain actions."

And internal FBI report contains an allegation that somebody made against VP Biden without providing a shred of evidence. The FBI did not consider the information credible.

Comer has no case against Joe Biden and he knows it. But he doesn't care, as long as the delusional Trump cult members believe it and the GOP can use the false allegation in the election.
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« Reply #1636 on: September 18, 2023, 01:46:14 PM »
More inconclusive BS

James Gilliar, a Biden family associate, emailed ......

James Gilliar told Tony Bobulinksi.....

Hunter Biden wrote

When are we going to see something that Joe Biden actually emailed, told or wrote himself?

People can write and say anything they like, but that doesn't make it true nor is it evidence of anything.

"The FBIís June 30, 2020 FD-1023 form contains allegations that then-Vice President Joe Biden allegedly engaged in an extortion scheme where he was paid $5 million in exchange for certain actions."

And internal FBI report contains an allegation that somebody made against VP Biden without providing a shred of evidence. The FBI did not consider the information credible.

Comer has no case against Joe Biden and he knows it. But he doesn't care, as long as the delusional Trump cult members believe it and the GOP can use the false allegation in the election.

These are the people in a position to know the truth.  How else could it be proven?  And if there were any doubt, Dirty Hunter's message to his daughter confirms that he was giving his "pop" half of the bribery money that he was receiving for influence peddling.  It's stone cold.  Now you are relying on the honesty of the FBI?  LOL.  I'm waiting for the lightning to strike.  You have made an industry of casting doubt on the FBI's handling of evidence in the JFK assassination implying that they fabricated evidence.

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« Reply #1637 on: September 18, 2023, 01:48:52 PM »
The latest poll numbers are crushing for Old Joe.  According to even leftist CBS, only 1/3 of Americans think Ukraine Joe would be able to finish a second term.  His physical and mental deterioration are increasingly obvious to everyone.  Meanwhile almost 80% indicate that the country is moving in the wrong direction and the economy is in a shambles. 

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« Reply #1638 on: September 18, 2023, 03:34:43 PM »
These are the people in a position to know the truth.  How else could it be proven?  And if there were any doubt, Dirty Hunter's message to his daughter confirms that he was giving his "pop" half of the bribery money that he was receiving for influence peddling.  It's stone cold.  Now you are relying on the honesty of the FBI?  LOL.  I'm waiting for the lightning to strike.  You have made an industry of casting doubt on the FBI's handling of evidence in the JFK assassination implying that they fabricated evidence.

These are the people in a position to know the truth.  How else could it be proven?

Hilarious. You can't be this naive, can you?

How else it could be proven? Well, let's try bank documents which actually show money flowing into Joe Biden's account, communications to and from Joe Biden and witnesses who actually spoke to Joe Biden himself and/or who he bribed.

And if there were any doubt, Dirty Hunter's message to his daughter confirms that he was giving his "pop" half of the bribery money that he was receiving for influence peddling.  It's stone cold.

That's just another one of your lies. Hunter's message doesn't mention "the bribery money that he was receiving for influence peddling"

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« Reply #1639 on: September 18, 2023, 04:51:43 PM »
These are the people in a position to know the truth.  How else could it be proven?

Hilarious. You can't be this naive, can you?

How else it could be proven? Well, let's try bank dpcuments showing money flowing into Joe Biden's account.

And if there were any doubt, Dirty Hunter's message to his daughter confirms that he was giving his "pop" half of the bribery money that he was receiving for influence peddling.  It's stone cold.

That's just another one of your lies. Hunter's message doesn't mention "the bribery money that he was receiving for influence peddling"

Imagine the relief to the mafia!  All they have to do to avoid prosecution is avoid depositing their criminal payments into their own accounts and launder it through various shell companies to through relatives including grandchildren.  LOL.  Hunter's source of income was from these influence peddling schemes. Thus, if his half is salary is going to "pop" that means it is bribery money that Old Joe is receiving.  He is toast.  The deep state will not allow him to go to prison, though.  He will be pressured to not run again.  He will pardon Dirty Hunter for his many crimes on his way out the door and then disappear into a nursing facility with Robert Mueller. 

Record of Biden, Inc. shell companies (check):  https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf

Record of payments for over $20 million from foreign sources (check):  https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/


Verdict = GUILTY