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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #3661 on: October 13, 2025, 01:48:04 AM »
Dear Comrade/Herr Molotov-Ribbentrop,

I'm sorry it's so difficult for you.

Are you still waiting to hear from your boss, "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin, about how to respond?

-- Tom

The great irony of your paranoid obsession with Russia and Putin being behind every event is that in this case it is actually true.  But it had nothing to do with Trump.  Russia concocted an entirely false disinformation campaign that Hillary and Comey perpetuated and that you continue to believe.  That is comedy gold.  You are working for Putin even if you are smart enough to realize it.

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« Reply #3662 on: October 13, 2025, 02:54:15 AM »
The great irony of your paranoid obsession with Russia and Putin being behind every event is that in this case it is actually true.  But it had nothing to do with Trump.  Russia concocted an entirely false disinformation campaign that Hillary and Comey perpetuated and that you continue to believe.  That is comedy gold.  You are working for Putin even if you are smart enough to realize it.

How ironic, coming from a "useful idiot" like you, Comrade Molotov - Herr Ribbentrop.

(Don't feel bad -- lots of smart people are "useful idiots.")


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« Reply #3663 on: October 13, 2025, 03:48:54 AM »
Putin and Russia had nothing to do with Trump's getting elected. [paraphrased] 

Why is it, then, that the investigations by Republican Robert Mueller and the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committe concluded that Putin's intelligence services and his professional St. Petersburg trolls interfered in our election, and did so in an attempt to not only hurt Clinton's campaign, but to get Trump elected?

Why did Putin, when asked in Helsinki if he had wanted Trump to win, said "Yes, I did"?

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Russia concocted an entirely false disinformation campaign.

You mean the 20-30% of the Steele Dossier allegations that GROK says have been proved are actually false, and that another 30-40% which it says are "partially supported by evidence of Russian meddling and Trump orbit contacts" are false, as well?
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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #3664 on: October 13, 2025, 01:33:00 PM »
Why is it, then, that the investigations by Republican Robert Mueller and the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committe concluded that Putin's intelligence services and his professional St. Petersburg trolls interfered in our election, and did so in an attempt to not only hurt Clinton's campaign, but to get Trump elected?

Why did Putin, when asked in Helsinki if he had wanted Trump to win, said "Yes, I did"?

You mean the 20-30% of the Steele Dossier allegations that GROK says have been proved are actually false, and that another 30-40% which it says are "partially supported by evidence of Russian meddling and Trump orbit contacts" are false, as well?

You are deeply confused.  Even if Russia made attempts to influence the election, there is no evidence that they: 1) colluded with Trump; and 2) had any impact on the election.  There is no evidence that a single vote in any US election was influenced by any Russian influence.  The most significant impact of Russia was that Hillary and the Dems ran with a Russian disinformation campaign. The fact that Putin may have preferred Trump over Hillary is meaningless.  Like Americans, he perhaps realized it is better to have a competent person in office instead of a political robot. 

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« Reply #3665 on: October 13, 2025, 01:35:26 PM »
A magnificent day for Trump and the world with the release of the hostages and the beginning of peace in Israel and Gaza.  History teaches us that many things can go wrong but it is progress.  It is fantastic to see America restored to itself rightful place in the world providing leadership through strength.  None of this would have happened if Old Joe or God forbid Kacklin' Kamala had been elected. 

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« Reply #3666 on: October 13, 2025, 02:01:38 PM »

 "10% for the Big Guy" per Hunter Biden's own lap top is no joke. These people make $$ off of conflict/war. Peace is not profitable for them.

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« Reply #3667 on: October 13, 2025, 04:53:59 PM »
I have a good friend who is the grip of near-terminal Trump Derangement Syndrome. I was thinking this morning that it would be an interesting little experiment to see what negative twist he puts on Trump's Middle East triumph, which pretty much the entire world recognizes as a triumph. Just as I was thinking this, a radio pastor named Jeff Schreve was making the exact same point - i.e., those with full-blown TDS cannot acknowledge ANY accomplishment by Trump. What, I wonder, would be the TDS spin on the Middle East peace?

My own claim to rationality is that I can recognize Trump's accomplishments for what they are and many of his policies as being ones I enthusiastically support while differing from him on others and also recognizing that he's just this side of being of completely nuts and potentially dangerous. I lived through Biden while being somewhat aghast but wishing him the best and recognizing his policies had little to do with my life, and I'm sure I would've lived through a Kamala Presidency without suffering from KDS. I just don't understand the depth of emotional involvement many people seem to have that turns them into cultists in both directions.

My very best friend of 52 years was ready to move to Canada when Trump was elected in 2016. I talked him off the ledge by simply asking, "How much difference has it actually made to your life or my life who the hell the President was?"