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Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #2548 on: March 14, 2025, 01:32:20 PM »
That would be W Bush - he took money primarily for tax cuts  - Much like your Orange Buffoon is doing now

“Next time a Republican tells you that ‘Social Security is broke,’ remind them that Pres. Bush ‘borrowed’ $1.37 trillion of Social Security
surplus revenue to pay for his tax cuts for the rich and his war in Iraq and never paid it back”.

All other funds from SS were invested
https://meetbeagle.com/resources/post/which-presidents-borrowed-from-the-social-security-fund

So you agree with me that the Social Security money was spent by the establishment politicians to pay for endless wars!  A policy that Old Joe followed with reckless abandonment in Ukraine.  That money is gone but the question remains what is to be done?   The establishment policy is full speed ahead with spending to stay in power and let the system collapse in a few years.  The Trump policy is to cut back and try to save the system. 

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« Reply #2549 on: March 14, 2025, 01:34:16 PM »
   There's plenty of $$ being spent on Illegal Aliens = $$ is there.  Stop with the blame game and fix the SS and FEMA issues.

There is plenty of money being spent but that is not sustainable.  It's like maxing out all your credit cards.  Eventually the party comes to an end. Leftists complain that Trump/Musk are cutting social programs, but they are doing out of necessity.  The money is gone.  $38 trillion in debt with no end in sight.  The politicians that they supported over the last 50 years have spent all the wealth.

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« Reply #2550 on: March 14, 2025, 01:38:20 PM »
So you agree with me that the Social Security money was spent by the establishment politicians to pay for endless wars! 

No I don't. W Bush took money and never paid it back.
Show me another one.

A policy that Old Joe followed with reckless abandonment in Ukraine.

Prove it. Where did Joe take any money from a "SS Slush Fund" and spend it on Ukraine?

The Trump policy is to cut back and try to save the system.

 :D Check back May 1st - Markets are down AGAIN today.
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« Reply #2551 on: March 14, 2025, 01:42:50 PM »
There is plenty of money being spent but that is not sustainable.  It's like maxing out all your credit cards.  Eventually the party comes to an end. Leftists complain that Trump/Musk are cutting social programs, but they are doing out of necessity.  The money is gone.  $38 trillion in debt with no end in sight.  The politicians that they supported over the last 50 years have spent all the wealth.

Trump refused to veto any congressional spending and added $7.8 trillion to the nation debt.  ("The King of Debt")

"The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by a leading Washington budget maven, Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war."

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20250205/117856/HHRG-119-GO00-20250205-SD008.pdf

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« Reply #2552 on: March 14, 2025, 01:45:44 PM »
No I don't.
W Bush took money and never gave it back.

Prove it. Where did Joe take any money from a "SS Slush Fund" and spend it on Ukraine?

 :D Check back May 1st - Market are down AGAIN today.

Of course Bush and every other president over the last 50 years except Trump spent billions on wars and proxy wars. That was my entire point.  Biden spent billions on Ukraine.  He wasted trillions on COVID.
Where do you think all that money came from?  Do you think that if the US government wastes trillions on fraud, waste, and war that has nothing to do with the inability to fund social security?  LOL.   If I buy a Ferrari, but then don't have money for groceries, would you say that the money spent on the Ferrari had nothing to do with my inability to buy food?

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« Reply #2553 on: March 14, 2025, 01:46:47 PM »
Trump refused to veto any congressional spending and added $7.8 trillion to the nation debt.  ("The King of Debt")

"The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by a leading Washington budget maven, Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war."

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20250205/117856/HHRG-119-GO00-20250205-SD008.pdf

COVID.

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« Reply #2554 on: March 14, 2025, 01:47:59 PM »
Of course Bush and every other president over the last 50 years except Trump spent billions on wars and proxy wars. That was my entire point.  Biden spent billions on Ukraine.  He wasted trillions on COVID.
Where do you think all that money came from?  Do you think that if the US government wastes trillions on fraud, waste, and war that has nothing to do with the inability to fund social security?  LOL.   If I buy a Ferrari, but then don't have money for groceries, would you say that the money spent on the Ferrari had nothing to do with my inability to buy food?

SS money is invested in Trust Funds for other uses. There is "NO SLUSH FUND diversion"
You're delusional.