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Online Joe Elliott

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Re: Craziest Assembly of CTers in Dealey Plaza of all Time
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2021, 03:47:39 AM »
"Dan O’meara has answered the call, specifying just four (I think it’s more like eight) conspirators. In either case, a small conspiracy that just might work."

What do you mean when you write "I think it's more like eight"?

“Eight” is my number, after looking at your claims.

You have four conspirators. You also have three who were not conspirators but, for some reason, just happened to tell lies that helped the conspiracy. You also did not include Oswald because he believe he was told to provide a rifle but did not realize there was a conspiracy. I think it is more reasonable to conclude that all eight were involved in this conspiracy that you postulate.

However, four, or eight, it doesn’t matter that much. Either way, this qualifies as a small conspiracy theory.

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Re: Craziest Assembly of CTers in Dealey Plaza of all Time
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2021, 02:02:20 AM »
There are many levels of crazy when it comes to accepting a CT without real evidence. Flat Earth. The Moon landing hoax, JFK is still alive, JFK JR is alive. I assume some of them also accept the JFK assassination theory. But that is a reflection of how nutty people can be and NOT a measure of the validity of evidence in the JFK assassination. Associating the Q people with the JFK Ct is just a another cheap shot by the LN'ers, Nothing knew.
 Although I do wish someone would have used a JFK Jr look alike to speed through the plaza yelling "I am here for you all but they will shoot me if I stay". It's not like I normally have a mean streak but it would be funny as hell.

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Re: Craziest Assembly of CTers in Dealey Plaza of all Time
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2021, 11:49:04 PM »
Trump's Qanon quacks decided to come back believing today is the day that JFK Jr. would come out of the shadows and unite with Criminal Donald. Trump is nothing but a loser and a fraud but his cult built up this phony image of him and it was played up by the real fake news right wing media. These people live for conspiracy theories but are actually delusional to believe in them. How many times have these morons gathered at Dealey Plaza to go home without JFK Jr's. triumphant return? And they still keep coming back expecting to see him in the flesh. That's how deranged these Trump worshippers are.

Over 100 QAnon believers show up in Dallas waiting for JFK Jr -- who never arrives

Over 100 believers in the QAnon conspiracy theory gathered in Dealey Plaza in Dallas on Monday morning in anticipation of the late John F. Kennedy Jr. coming back from the dead and declaring former President Donald Trump to be America's true president.

As reported by the Daily Beast's Will Sommer, the QAnon supporters gathered on the bridge near the plaza in the hopes that JFK Jr. would finally reveal himself to be alive despite the fact that he died in 1999.

Much to their disappointment, however, the late son of former President John Kennedy never arrived, never proclaimed Trump the true president, and never revealed himself as Trump's new vice president.

WBAP assistant news director Eric Bushman posted some video footage of the QAnon faithful gathered in Dealey Plaza, which is the location where the late President Kennedy was shot in 1963.

Among other things, one supporter drove a red QAnon truck that featured messages painted on the side that included statements such as "Trump won 2020" and "WWG1WGA," which is the abbreviated QAnon slogan, "Where We Go One We Go All."

Watch some video footage of QAnon in Dallas below:

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Re: Craziest Assembly of CTers in Dealey Plaza of all Time
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2021, 01:04:42 AM »
Qanon Trump quacks awaiting the triumphant return of JFK Jr. so he can walk hand in hand with Criminal Donald and announce a 2024 "Super Ticket". These people are absolutely nuts. They worship a fraud named Trump and have made him into their "God" based on bogus made up conspiracies. They went home after standing there for several  hours and they will come back again when they invent a new date for the return of JFK Jr. Next Halloween they should sit in a pumpkin patch and wait for "The Great Pumpkin". And the fake news right wing media helps to promote this insanity.         

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Re: Craziest Assembly of CTers in Dealey Plaza of all Time
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2021, 03:19:35 AM »
There are undoubtedly many crazies in the world as exhibited by JFK assassination conspirators.  But the biggest conspiracy theory in the history of the world was the fake "Russian collusion" theory that suggested that the President of the United States was a Russian agent.  It doesn't get any more far out than that. 

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Re: Craziest Assembly of CTers in Dealey Plaza of all Time
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2021, 04:17:56 AM »
Russian collusion with the criminal Trump administration was already confirmed by our US Intelligence and documented in a Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Report but this Qanon cult is dangerous. These are the same lunatics who stormed the Capitol attempting to overthrow the US Government. Qanon is a dangerous cult and had been identified as a domestic terrorist group.

The QAnon JFK Cult in Dallas Is Tearing Families Apart
“My sister may be too far gone, but it's not too late to bring awareness to others. Do not fall into this trap.”

Katy Garner and her sister grew up in a small town in Arkansas and were always close.

“We both were cheerleaders in school, made pretty good grades, and loved to just hang out with friends and each other. No one has a perfect childhood, but we had each other. We knew that. And that's what made us so close. We even have matching tattoos to remind each other of that,” Garner told VICE News.

They both became nurses, and Garner’s sister married a doctor and had three children.

Then, around the time of the 2020 presidential election, Garner’s sister started looking at some of the conspiracy theories swirling online about how former President Donald Trump lost the vote. Ultimately she found QAnon

“It took her about three months to become totally obsessed,” Garner said. “That’s all she would talk about. You could call her and somehow the conversation would turn into how we live in a world with reptilians and how the Clintons are evil baby-eaters.”

Then she found Michael Brian Protzman, known to his followers as Negative48, who is the leader of a QAnon offshoot that’s been camped out in Dallas for the last three weeks awaiting the return of John F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr.   

Garner’s sister left her family behind and drove to Dallas about a month ago and has cut off almost all communication with her family.

According to Garner, her sister has so far handed over about $200,000 to the group, and is being forced to drink a hydrogen peroxide solution and take “bio pellets” to ward off COVID-19 and stay healthy. Her phone calls and messages are also being monitored, according to Garner, who believes her sister will never return.

“She left her children for this and doesn't even care. She is missing birthdays and holidays for this. She truly believes this is all real and we are the crazy ones for trying to get her to come home. But she won’t,” Garner said. “I don't believe she will ever come back from this. We are in mourning.”

Garner’s sister was one of the hundreds of people who initially traveled to Dallas to see JFK reappear on Nov. 2. However, when that didn’t happen, the goalposts shifted, and Protzman convinced dozens of people that if they waited long enough, something else would happen.

Katy says her sister’s brief messages to her parents have gone from “be home in a few days” to “I am not coming home, my husband can take care of the kids. I am not leaving until this is over.”

While the group initially appeared to be waiting for the reappearance of JFK,  over the weekend, the tone of Protzman’s comments shifted dramatically. Besides proclaiming that he was God’s representative on earth, he also took part in a video chat where participants openly spoke about having to experience death in order to learn the truth.

“Ultimately... we have to experience that physical death... let go... come out on the other side,” one of the participants in the video call suggested.

Hours later, the administrator of Protzman’s Telegram channel posted a screenshot of a navigation app showing the destination as Waco, Texas, where in 1993 a monthslong law enforcement siege of the Mount Carmel compound belonging to the Branch Davidian religious sect ended with 76 people dead, including 25 children.

The QAnon offshoot cult that has been camped out in Dallas for three weeks has been widely mocked for claiming that John F. Kennedy and his son would suddenly reappear.

But as the weeks have passed, the group’s rhetoric has become increasingly extreme, and many cult and extremism experts are concerned about the direction the group has taken.

“The moment when the leaders of a cultic group start talking about the need for physical death to reach utopia is the moment to get the authorities involved,” Mike Rothschild, the author of The Storm Is Upon Us, a book about QAnon, tweeted.

Caroline Orr Bueno, a behavioral scientist who researches social media manipulation and far-right extremism, compared the shift in direction of the group’s rhetoric to the beliefs expressed by accused murderer Matthew Coleman earlier this year.

“These are basically the exact same spiritual/religious teachings that the guy in California was getting into just before he brutally murdered his two young children,” Orr tweeted.

Several extremist researchers who are closely tracking this group’s activities told VICE News that they’ve sent information to the FBI. The agency’s Dallas field office didn’t immediately respond to VICE News’ request for comment about whether they are investigating or monitoring the group.

A spokesperson for the Dallas Police Department told VICE News that “the department has limited contact with the group. At this time there is no significant reason this group should be a cause of concern.”

When contacted by VICE News on Sunday, Protzman did not deny the allegations about the threat his group posed to its members. But rather than responding directly to the specific questions sent to him, he lashed out at the media’s coverage of his group, mocked mask-wearing, and said the media were the “whores for the 1% globalist pimps.”

But for those whose family and friends are under Protzman’s spell, concerns about their safety are growing by the day.

“I'm very worried about her safety,” one friend of a person inside the group told VICE News, requesting anonymity to speak openly about the situation. “We don't know if she's given him any money, but her husband is about to cancel her cards. She's blowing through money fast.”

The woman said her friend’s husband was making the decision to cancel the credit cards because he’s “worried about how he's gonna pay his mortgage this month.“

In an audio chat among members of Protzman’s group on Telegram, one man spoke about cashing in his retirement savings in order to fund his stay in Dallas.

As well as soliciting funds from members of the group, Protzman and his core group of supporters continue to solicit donations from the hundreds of thousands of people who follow him online.

​The financial impact on the group’s members is just one concern that’s been shared by members of a splinter group of former Protzman followers, who are now trying to help people to leave him.

In the Telegram channel the splinter group has set up, one woman spoke about her fiancé, who traveled to Dallas initially at the beginning of the month, returned home to Missouri, but returned to Dallas a week later, after Protzman made another prediction.

Now she’s worried that her fiancé may be lost to her for good.

"I keep asking him to come home, and he keeps saying something big is going to happen and he doesn’t want to miss it,” a member of the Dealey Plaza Truthers group wrote. “I have already thought that perhaps my fiancé might be penniless if he stays with this group. I just hope they wake up before losing everything.”

Protzman’s latest deadline for “something big” to happen is Monday, the 58th anniversary of the assassination of JFK in Dallas. But once that passes without anything happening, Protzman will likely propose another date to keep people from leaving. And while Katy Garner believes her sister cannot be saved, she wants other families to be alert to the warning signs that someone is falling down the same rabbit hole as her sister.

“[Protzman] must be stopped,” Garner said. “My sister may be too far gone, but it's not too late to bring awareness to others. Do not fall into this trap. Do not believe what these people say. They are all delusional and brainwashed. And if you notice a family member isolating themselves, speaking of nonsense, say something. Bring them back to reality. We didn't put two and two together. She hid this from us for a year. Don't let what happened to my family happen to yours. Pay attention and hold the ones you love tight.”


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