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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Cuban exile told sons he trained Oswald for CIA
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2021, 05:38:06 PM »
So, why do you think a “loyal” CIA affiliate would (allegedly) be involved in a plot to kill Kissinger?   :-X

The same reason he might've been involved in a plot to kill JFK. Aside from his role as a government informant, he was a contract killer, terrorist, and drug trafficker.

It's not implausible that someone within the US national security state wanted to kill Kissinger or other US government officials. Or maybe the Cuban Exile community had beef with Kissinger over US-Cuba policy. They are the same domestic extremists who attempted to bomb the UN in New York City.

The Day Anti-Castro Forces Tried to Bomb the U.N.
http://www.ipsnews.net/2014/12/the-day-anti-castro-forces-tried-to-bomb-the-u-n/


Given that Morales informed the CIA on the Cuban Exile group, Movimiento Democratic Cristiano, a group that was active in New Orleans in the early-60s, it sounds like his son's story is at the very least, plausible:

Morales also told his son that he met Oswald in a CIA training camp. He didn’t tell his son when or where. There was a training camp near New Orleans where Oswald lived in 1963, that was run by an anti-Castro group called the Movimiento Democratico Cristiano (MDC). Morales is known to have reported on MDC activities in 1964.

https://jfkfacts.org/redacted-jfk-files-show-ricardo-monkey-morales-was-a-trusted-cia-operative-and-fbi-informant/


FWIW, parts of Morales' CIA files are still classified and we don't know exactly when his relationships with exile groups in New Orleans began. We can't say for certain that his relationship with the MDC overlapped with Oswald's time in New Orleans.


His heavily-redacted 130-page CIA personnel file, is found among the JFK assassination records whose release was postponed by the White House on October 22.

https://jfkfacts.org/redacted-jfk-files-show-ricardo-monkey-morales-was-a-trusted-cia-operative-and-fbi-informant/
« Last Edit: October 30, 2021, 05:45:09 PM by Jon Banks »

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Cuban exile told sons he trained Oswald for CIA
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2021, 07:07:46 PM »
The same reason he might've been involved in a plot to kill JFK. Aside from his role as a government informant, he was a contract killer, terrorist, and drug trafficker.

It's not implausible that someone within the US national security state wanted to kill Kissinger or other US government officials. Or maybe the Cuban Exile community had beef with Kissinger over US-Cuba policy. They are the same domestic extremists who attempted to bomb the UN in New York City.

The Day Anti-Castro Forces Tried to Bomb the U.N.
http://www.ipsnews.net/2014/12/the-day-anti-castro-forces-tried-to-bomb-the-u-n/


Given that Morales informed the CIA on the Cuban Exile group, Movimiento Democratic Cristiano, a group that was active in New Orleans in the early-60s, it sounds like his son's story is at the very least, plausible:

Morales also told his son that he met Oswald in a CIA training camp. He didn’t tell his son when or where. There was a training camp near New Orleans where Oswald lived in 1963, that was run by an anti-Castro group called the Movimiento Democratico Cristiano (MDC). Morales is known to have reported on MDC activities in 1964.

https://jfkfacts.org/redacted-jfk-files-show-ricardo-monkey-morales-was-a-trusted-cia-operative-and-fbi-informant/


FWIW, parts of Morales' CIA files are still classified and we don't know exactly when his relationships with exile groups in New Orleans began. We can't say for certain that his relationship with the MDC overlapped with Oswald's time in New Orleans.


His heavily-redacted 130-page CIA personnel file, is found among the JFK assassination records whose release was postponed by the White House on October 22.

https://jfkfacts.org/redacted-jfk-files-show-ricardo-monkey-morales-was-a-trusted-cia-operative-and-fbi-informant/


It's not implausible that someone within the US national security state wanted to kill Kissinger or other US government officials. Or maybe the Cuban Exile community had beef with Kissinger over US-Cuba policy. They are the same domestic extremists who attempted to bomb the UN in New York City.


US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger drew up plans to "smash Cuba" with air strikes nearly 40 years ago, government papers obtained by researchers show.
He was angered by Cuba's 1976 military intervention in Angola and was considering retaliation if Cuban forces were deployed elsewhere in Africa.
The information comes from documents declassified at the request of the National Security Archive.
They show that Mr Kissinger was eager for the US to stand up to Cuba.
The documents from the Gerald R Ford Presidential Library show that US officials devised plans to attack ports and military installations in Cuba in addition to measures ordered by Mr Kissinger to deploy Marine battalions based at the US Navy base at Guantanamo Bay to "clobber" the Cubans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/29441281

So, you think that the anti-Castro Cubans might have had a beef with Kissinger? Really!!!?

Please explain the logic of this idea that you have…

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Cuban exile told sons he trained Oswald for CIA
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2021, 09:11:49 PM »

It's not implausible that someone within the US national security state wanted to kill Kissinger or other US government officials. Or maybe the Cuban Exile community had beef with Kissinger over US-Cuba policy. They are the same domestic extremists who attempted to bomb the UN in New York City.


US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger drew up plans to "smash Cuba" with air strikes nearly 40 years ago, government papers obtained by researchers show.
He was angered by Cuba's 1976 military intervention in Angola and was considering retaliation if Cuban forces were deployed elsewhere in Africa.
The information comes from documents declassified at the request of the National Security Archive.
They show that Mr Kissinger was eager for the US to stand up to Cuba.
The documents from the Gerald R Ford Presidential Library show that US officials devised plans to attack ports and military installations in Cuba in addition to measures ordered by Mr Kissinger to deploy Marine battalions based at the US Navy base at Guantanamo Bay to "clobber" the Cubans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/29441281

So, you think that the anti-Castro Cubans might have had a beef with Kissinger? Really!!!?

Please explain the logic of this idea that you have…

I’m just speculating on the Kissinger thing. I have no idea about plots to kill Kissinger or who would want him killed.

Only noting that the radical Cuban Exile movement in the US had a history of political violence and terrorism.

You seem to be implying that he was spreading disinfo for Castro. Maybe, but it seems unlikely that a spy loyal to Cuba would participate in terror attacks against Cubans.

For example, the Miami Cuban Spy ring broken up in the 1990s was formed in response to Cuban Exile terrorism and helped Cuba foil some attacks.

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-real-story-of-netflixs-wasp-network-who-were-the-cuban-five/

The known facts about Morales are enough to conclude that his son’s story has legs. Further investigation and declassification of his files is needed before we can rule out that he ever met Oswald…



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Re: Cuban exile told sons he trained Oswald for CIA
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2021, 09:43:02 PM »
I’m just speculating on the Kissinger thing. I have no idea about plots to kill Kissinger or who would want him killed.

Only noting that the radical Cuban Exile movement in the US had a history of political violence and terrorism.

You seem to be implying that he was spreading disinfo for Castro. Maybe, but it seems unlikely that a spy loyal to Cuba would participate in terror attacks against Cubans.

For example, the Miami Cuban Spy ring broken up in the 1990s was formed in response to Cuban Exile terrorism and helped Cuba foil some attacks.

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-real-story-of-netflixs-wasp-network-who-were-the-cuban-five/

The known facts about Morales are enough to conclude that his son’s story has legs. Further investigation and declassification of his files is needed before we can rule out that he ever met Oswald…


Maybe, but it seems unlikely that a spy loyal to Cuba would participate in terror attacks against Cubans.


Hypothetically, a spy loyal to Castro who has gained some trust from the CIA might need to participate in the attacks to keep the CIA from becoming suspicious that he could be faking his loyalty to the CIA. Being a part of the attack might allow him to covertly alert the Cuban intelligence agency of the attack ahead of time. Which could give them a little time to make preparations for a “warm welcome” for the attackers…

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Re: Cuban exile told sons he trained Oswald for CIA
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2021, 01:20:48 AM »
Apparently this guy was involved with RIP Robertson in Africa, the Congo crisis.

RIP and the boys (Cuban Exiles) invaded Congo to release some hostages, or something like that.

So Morales is probably in this pic below of RIP with his umbrella (photographed on the 24th November 1964) Yes almost exactly a year after some dude with an umbrella acted strangely in dealey plaza.


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Re: Cuban exile told sons he trained Oswald for CIA
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2021, 01:32:55 AM »
For what it’s worth:

At one time or another — and in some cases perhaps, at the same times — Morales had been an intelligence agent for the Castro government, an anti-communist operative who went on armed raids on his homeland, a mercenary in the Belgian Congo, a demolition expert for Miami-based gamblers, an informant for the FBI, CIA and U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, and the chief of counter-espionage for the Venezuelan secret police.

https://medium.com/@AlfredSpellman/ricardo-monkey-morales-the-most-interesting-man-in-miami-was-gunned-down-35-years-ago-today-9f5270e4b6ba

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Re: Cuban exile told sons he trained Oswald for CIA
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2021, 01:49:18 AM »
Apparently this guy was involved with RIP Robertson in Africa, the Congo crisis.

RIP and the boys (Cuban Exiles) invaded Congo to release some hostages, or something like that.

So Morales is probably in this pic below of RIP with his umbrella (photographed on the 24th November 1964) Yes almost exactly a year after some dude with an umbrella acted strangely in dealey plaza.



Yeah, the guy was a CIA operative for most of his life.

Did covert ops in Africa and Venezuela while also trafficking narcotics…