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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Dead-Letter Package
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2021, 09:12:07 PM »
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"Received in bad condition at"...



Question! Would a package that had a non-existent address get stamped this way?

Remember what the report I posted in Reply #2 said about the function of the dead-letter office:

"The 'Nixie' section has been described as the section in which mail and parcels are placed when such mail and/or parcels contain a non-existent or unlocated address or when the mail or parcels have been damaged in transit."

This in turn gives rise to further questions..................

How in the heck did someone know to write "Irving, Texas" below the address label (crossing out "Dallas" on the label) and direct this parcel to the Irving post office?

Does it not look rather as though this parcel was not directed to the Irving post office (from the Dallas post office) but in fact arrived there originally------------in bad condition?

Debating anything about the parcel is simply a waste of time and effort, a distraction and,  an excellent example of an exercise in futility

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: The Dead-Letter Package
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2021, 10:49:59 PM »
Debating anything about the parcel is simply a waste of time and effort, a distraction and,  an excellent example of an exercise in futility

As opposed to the red rings on the TSBD windows? 

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Re: The Dead-Letter Package
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2021, 11:18:38 PM »
As opposed to the red rings on the TSBD windows?

You're obsessed with those red rings, aren't you Mr "Smith"....  You'd like to keep them under the rug and ignored, wouldn't you Mr "Smith" ?....    But you're too stupid to understand that the best way to keep those red rings out of the limelight is by simply ignoring them.  But I'm more than happy to reveal that you're simply desperate to make it appear that those red rings had a innocuous purpose..... But all you're silly explanations fall short of explaining the reason for those red rings being stuck to the windows of the TSBD.
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Re: The Dead-Letter Package
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2021, 11:38:13 PM »
"Received in bad condition at"...



Question! Would a package that had a non-existent address get stamped this way?

Remember what the report I posted in Reply #2 said about the function of the dead-letter office:

"The 'Nixie' section has been described as the section in which mail and parcels are placed when such mail and/or parcels contain a non-existent or unlocated address or when the mail or parcels have been damaged in transit."

This in turn gives rise to further questions..................

How in the heck did someone know to write "Irving, Texas" below the address label (crossing out "Dallas" on the label) and direct this parcel to the Irving post office?

Does it not look rather as though this parcel was not directed to the Irving post office (from the Dallas post office) but in fact arrived there originally------------in bad condition?

Now! According to an official report 16 Dec 1963, the postmark on the package--------------



reads "IRVING, TEX. 5 30 AM 1963" (date illegible). Interestingly, the report makes NO mention of the stamp, to the left of the postmark, bearing the important words "Received in bad condition at".

This all yields a simple but pretty startling circumstance: this package was Received in bad condition at the post office in Irving.

So..........................

We have a non-existent Dallas, Tex. address handwritten on a label that has been stuck on to the package, with "Irving, Texas" written directly on the parcel underneath. No Dallas postmark, only an Irving one. And the reason stated for consignment to the Irving Nixie section: NOT non-existent address BUT "Received in bad condition".

It would seem, then, that this package was originally addressed to "Lee Oswald" at an IRVING address, but did not reach him due to damage in transit (which WAS one regulation reason for consignment to a post office's Nixie section).

So the obvious question must be posed: Was a non-existent Dallas address stuck over a real Irving address in order to change the ostensible reason why the package had ended up in this Nixie office in the first place?

It's beginning to look that way..................

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Re: The Dead-Letter Package
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2021, 04:50:08 PM »
You're obsessed with those red rings, aren't you Mr "Smith"....  You'd like to keep them under the rug and ignored, wouldn't you Mr "Smith" ?....    But you're too stupid to understand that the best way to keep those red rings out of the limelight is by simply ignoring them.  But I'm more than happy to reveal that you're simply desperate to make it appear that those red rings had a innocuous purpose..... But all you're silly explanations fall short of explaining the reason for those red rings being stuck to the windows of the TSBD.

So entertaining.  Here is some dialogue to add for LBJ's role in your fantasy: "Now Lady Bird when you see those yonder red circles you get you sweet behind down cause there is goin be some shootin."

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Re: The Dead-Letter Package
« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2021, 06:27:45 PM »

It would seem, then, that this package was originally addressed to "Lee Oswald" at an IRVING address, but did not reach him due to damage in transit (which WAS one regulation reason for consignment to a post office's Nixie section).

So the obvious question must be posed: Was a non-existent Dallas address stuck over a real Irving address in order to change the ostensible reason why the package had ended up in this Nixie office in the first place?

And the obvious question that would flow from an affirmative answer to the above question is:

Why would the authorities want to hide that fact that an 18" heavy brown paper bag open at both ends was sent to Mr Oswald at a legitimate Irving address?

Was it, one wonders, to bury evidence of an attempt made before the assassination to get Mr Oswald to leave fingerprints all over a heavy brown paper bag open at both ends that could then be joined together with more heavy brown paper to produce a rifle-length heavy brown paper bag?

A ~40" paper bag (rifle-length): apt to make Mr Oswald suspicious
An 18" paper bag (not close to rifle-length): less apt!

In other words! Is the Nixie parcel in fact hard evidence of an attempt to frame Mr Oswald that went unexpectedly wrong due to the parcel's getting damaged in transit and hence being "Received in bad condition at IRVING, TEX." post office?

If so, then the unsuccessful original plan would surely have required someone in the Paine home to retrieve the now handled paper bag and get it back into the hands of whoever was trying to frame Mr Oswald in advance of 11/22...............................

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« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2021, 07:14:41 PM »
So entertaining.  Here is some dialogue to add for LBJ's role in your fantasy: "Now Lady Bird when you see those yonder red circles you get you sweet behind down cause there is goin be some shootin."

I doubt that LBJ would have told anybody to get down..... Lbj only cared about LBJ....

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Re: The Dead-Letter Package
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2021, 05:46:05 PM »
And the obvious question that would flow from an affirmative answer to the above question is:

Why would the authorities want to hide that fact that an 18" heavy brown paper bag open at both ends was sent to Mr Oswald at a legitimate Irving address?

Was it, one wonders, to bury evidence of an attempt made before the assassination to get Mr Oswald to leave fingerprints all over a heavy brown paper bag open at both ends that could then be joined together with more heavy brown paper to produce a rifle-length heavy brown paper bag?

A ~40" paper bag (rifle-length): apt to make Mr Oswald suspicious
An 18" paper bag (not close to rifle-length): less apt!

In other words! Is the Nixie parcel in fact hard evidence of an attempt to frame Mr Oswald that went unexpectedly wrong due to the parcel's getting damaged in transit and hence being "Received in bad condition at IRVING, TEX." post office?

If so, then the unsuccessful original plan would surely have required someone in the Paine home to retrieve the now handled paper bag and get it back into the hands of whoever was trying to frame Mr Oswald in advance of 11/22...............................

Whew.  That is quite a plan.  If your fantasy conspirators control the evidence, why go through this complicated and bizarre charade and instead just say they found a bag with Oswald's prints on it?  That is after all what most CTers claim about any evidence against Oswald.  That it is faked or planted by the authorities.  But suddenly they have to go through this exercise?  LOL.  And I thought some CTers (like yourself?) thought Oswald was working with the fantasy conspirators.  So why not just tell him to put something in the bag to get his prints on it?  And what good would it do them to get Oswald's prints on a bag only 18 inches long?  This fantasy is way too complex and uncertain to be a part of any plan.