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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2021, 05:15:29 AM »
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2021, 05:22:56 AM »
Mike Pence's role ahead of the Jan. 6 riot lands under House investigation

The House select committee on Jan. 6 will be investigating former vice president Mike Pence's role in the attempted insurrection.

New reporting about White House legal adviser John Eastman's memo outlining plans for a coup shows Pence was more deeply enmeshed than previously known in the scheme to keep Donald Trump in office despite his election loss, and committee member Rep. Jamie B. Raskin (D-MD) wants to learn more about his role, reported the Washington Post.

"It's an important part of the historical record to determine how close Trump actually came to achieving his scheme of getting Pence to declare unilateral power to reject electoral college votes," Raskin told Post columnist Greg Sargent.

Eastman told the New York Times that he urged Pence and his chief counsel Greg Jacob shortly before Jan. 6 that the vice president could delay counting electors when Congress met to certify the election, thus sending the process back to GOP-controlled state legislatures that could send rogue electors for Trump and set off a contingent election in the House.

"I think Jacob was looking for a way for he and Pence to be convinced to take the action that we were requesting, and so I think he continued to meet with me and push back on the arguments and hear my counters, what have you, to try and see whether they could reconcile themselves to what the president had asked," Eastman told the Times.

Pence ultimately decided he did not have the power to enact this scheme, but lawmakers have requested all executive branch documents and communications related to Jacob and are considering changes to the Electoral Count Act to prevent another vice president from corruptly interfering with election results.

"The structural weaknesses exposed by this episode are a looming danger for the republic," Raskin said. "We need to act within the electoral college paradigm to do whatever we can to make sure the vice-presidential role remains an administrative and ministerial one."

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-jan-6-2655219301/

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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2021, 04:19:14 PM »
Still nothing new.  How long can you milk this old story to deflect from the unfolding disasters?  Meanwhile Old Joe's poll numbers are crashing like the Hindenburg.  It's brutal to watch him in late stage dementia.  I feel sorry for the guy to be used like that by his family and political party. 

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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2021, 04:51:08 PM »
LOL. Covid cases are going down and Trump's inflation disaster is finally getting under control thanks to President Biden.




Cases were up under Biden by 300% around Labor Day despite the widespread availability of the Trump vaccine from day one of his presidency.  So by "going down" you are less than a 300% increase?  Still significantly higher than under Trump even without the vaccine.   And the inflation disaster is "getting under control."  LOL.   Inflation indexes hit record highs over the summer.  It is out of control just like the border, Afghanistan and crime.  Just denying reality and demonstrable facts doesn't fool anyone.

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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2021, 10:19:40 PM »
Cases were up under Biden by 300% around Labor Day despite the widespread availability of the Trump vaccine from day one of his presidency.  So by "going down" you are less than a 300% increase?  Still significantly higher than under Trump even without the vaccine.   And the inflation disaster is "getting under control."  LOL.   Inflation indexes hit record highs over the summer.  It is out of control just like the border, Afghanistan and crime.  Just denying reality and demonstrable facts doesn't fool anyone.

False.

Cases in red states were surging because right wingers refused to wear masks and get vaccinated like they were supposed to. Plus right wing Governors ended mask mandates which increased the covid transmission rate. That's a Republican failure. But you falsely accuse Biden for Republican failures. That's why President Biden took the initiative to mandate vaccines to end this pandemic. You should be thanking him.   

Blue states have the virus under control because of high vaccination rates and mask mandates.

Afghanistan was Trump's deal he made with the Taliban in 2020 where he released 5000 Taliban terrorists from prison. Biden was not President then.   

The economic crisis occurred under Trump in 2020. His economic disaster basically caused another Great Depression which then led to inflation. Every credible economist said that was going to happen in late 2020. Trump is the worst jobs "president" in the modern era and has the worst job loss since Herbert Hoover. President Biden took over in late January during Trump's economic disaster and began creating millions of new jobs. Trump destroyed the economy and it will take a while to fix. 

All you're doing is denying reality. You take Trump's disasters and then accuse President Biden of creating them. That is hilarious since Trump handed Biden all those disasters to deal with.     

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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2021, 10:47:42 PM »
False.

Cases in red states were surging because right wingers refused to wear masks and get vaccinated like they were supposed to. Plus right wing Governors ended mask mandates which increased the covid transmission rate. That's a Republican failure. But you falsely accuse Biden for Republican failures. That's why President Biden took the initiative to mandate vaccines to end this pandemic. You should be thanking him.   

Blue states have the virus under control because of high vaccination rates and mask mandates.

Afghanistan was Trump's deal he made with the Taliban in 2020 where he released 5000 Taliban terrorists from prison. Biden was not President then.   

The economic crisis occurred under Trump in 2020. His economic disaster basically caused another Great Depression which then led to inflation. Every credible economist said that was going to happen in late 2020. Trump is the worst jobs "president" in the modern era and has the worst job loss since Herbert Hoover. President Biden took over in late January during Trump's economic disaster and began creating millions of new jobs. Trump destroyed the economy and it will take a while to fix. 

All you're doing is denying reality. You take Trump's disasters and then accuse President Biden of creating them. That is hilarious since Trump handed Biden all those disasters to deal with.     

Perhaps cases are surging in the border states due to the hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated illegals that have been released throughout that area in just last few months.  Almost 1 million people!  Among Americans, the highest percentage of unvaccinated groups are minorities and young people.  The leftist media ignores this, of course, because it doesn't play into their desired political narrative that Trump supporters are responsible for the spread of the virus.  Anyone can look the actual numbers up.  It's not a matter of opinion or political bias.   Your Afghanistan defense is delusional.  Trump made an agreement but it was premised on the satisfaction of various conditions.  None of which occurred.  Biden, who was not bound by that agreement, rushed to end the war in Afghanistan for political purposes to be out by Sept. 11.  As a result, he is directly responsible for the chaos and deaths that resulted from his incompetence and weakness. 

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Re: 1/6 Insurrection Investigation
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2021, 10:55:38 PM »
Perhaps cases are surging in the border states due to the hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated illegals that have been released throughout that area in just last few months.  Almost 1 million people!  Among Americans, the highest percentage of unvaccinated groups are minorities and young people.  The leftist media ignores this, of course, because it doesn't play into their desired political narrative that Trump supporters are responsible for the spread of the virus.  Anyone can look the actual numbers up.  It's not a matter of opinion or political bias.   Your Afghanistan defense is delusional.  Trump made an agreement but it was premised on the satisfaction of various conditions.  None of which occurred.  Biden, who was not bound by that agreement, rushed to end the war in Afghanistan for political purposes to be out by Sept. 11.  As a result, he is directly responsible for the chaos and deaths that resulted from his incompetence and weakness.

Deny, deflect, blame as usual.

There are no "unvaccinated illegals released". That's more right wing disinformation.   

Trump caused the Afghanistan disaster because he made the deal with the Taliban and signed an executive order before he left office in disgrace.     

All the covid charts shows that right wing red states has the lowest vaccination which are all Trump supporters.

Afghanistan: Former advisor to Mike Pence warned in 2020 that Trump was setting up another 'Benghazi'

"Perhaps by design, perhaps by incompetence, perhaps out of sheer spite or arrogance, Trump has created the circumstances for another Bay of Pigs, Black Hawk Down, or Benghazi," James Golby, who served as a special advisor to Vice President Mike Pence, wrote in a November article for The Atlantic. Those were all situations, he wrote, "where the United States inserted itself into overseas conflicts enough to draw lethal opposition but without sufficient strength to protect its people."

https://www.businessinsider.com/kabul-ex-pence-adviser-warned-trump-setting-up-another-benghazi-2021-8

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Re: 1/6 Insurrection Investigation
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2021, 11:06:23 PM »
Deny, deflect, blame as usual.

There are no "unvaccinated illegals released". That's more right wing disinformation.   

Trump caused the Afghanistan disaster because he made the deal with the Taliban and signed an executive order before he left office in disgrace.     



You believe that all approximately one million illegals that have been released into the US in the last 8 months (according to the Biden administration's own numbers) were vaccinated?  And it is right wing disinformation to suggest otherwise?  We are to believe that among a million poor immigrants crossing the border from Mexico, Haiti, and Central America, that all were vaccinated and have not contributed to the surge of cases in the states where they have been released in the tens of thousands?  That is completely delusional.  It is more likely that none were vaccinated.  Again, Trump's agreement with the Taliban was not binding on Biden.  Nor were the conditions of that agreement met before Biden ordered the withdrawal.  The decision to get out was appropriate.  Trump was the only recent president to have the courage to stand up to the military.  The implementation under Biden resulted in disaster and chaos.  He forever owns that fiasco.   Like JFK owns the Bay of Pigs.  Biden's incompetence will go down in the history books.