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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #488 on: March 20, 2023, 05:34:54 PM »
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Imagine even if the allegations against Trump are true.  That he had a consensual affair with Daniels and paid her to keep quiet. There is no crime.  The crime was committed by Daniels and her disbarred attorney.  It is called blackmail.  Coercing someone to be paid to avoid revealing embarrassing information.  Avenatti is in prison for exactly that same conduct with Nike.  Trump is actually the victim of the crime.  And after Daniels is paid off and signs a legal nondisclosure agreement, she tries to blackmail Trump for even more money using a convicted felon as her attorney.  What crime has Trump committed?  He has plenty of money.  If wants to pay off porn stars or anyone for real or made-up claims, he can legally do so.  You don't think Bill Clinton and many celebrities haven't done this many times over?  Falsifying records?  How can that be an independent crime if there is no underlying crime to begin with?  And it is based on the testimony of another convicted and disbarred attorney who has acknowledged that he is a liar with a clear agenda against Trump.  Compare this situation with the actual evidence of corruption and money laundering of millions of dollars by Biden, Inc. from numerous foreign governments.  The evidence in that case doesn't rely upon porn stars, felons, and disbarred attorneys.  It comes from banks and financial records. 

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« Reply #489 on: March 20, 2023, 08:10:55 PM »
Yes, a shakedown attempt by a porn star represented by a multi-felon convicted attorney who is in prison for blackmail is credible!  LOL.  It's good of you to admit the truth behind these efforts.  They are designed to "bring down" Trump by any possible means to undermine the democratic process.  The radical leftists can't allow the citizens of the US to decide who is the next president.  The leftists are seeing the writing on the wall as Ukraine Joe dismantles the world with his clown show.  So the Stasi has to stop him at all costs.  Like in the old Soviet bloc.  Our political masters now arrest dissenters and imprison political opponents just as Martin stupidly admits is the purpose behind this undertaking.

Yes, a shakedown attempt by a porn star represented by a multi-felon convicted attorney who is in prison for blackmail is credible!

The credibility is confirmed by the payment made by Cohen on behalf of Trump.

Our political masters now arrest dissenters and imprison political opponents just as Martin stupidly admits is the purpose behind this undertaking.

I have admitted no such thing. It is my personal belief that Trump is America's worst enemy and if it takes a charge like falsifying documents to destroy his political career, the end justifies the means. But that's just my opinion. If Trump is arrested, it is not because he is a "dissenter" or a "political opponent", it is because he committed a crime and he isn't above the law. Ignorant right wingers are willing to give Trump as pass for everything. For crying out loud the guy is calling for violence against law enforcement when he is arrested.

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« Reply #490 on: March 20, 2023, 11:25:12 PM »
Imagine even if the allegations against Trump are true.  That he had a consensual affair with Daniels and paid her to keep quiet. There is no crime.  The crime was committed by Daniels and her disbarred attorney.  It is called blackmail.  Coercing someone to be paid to avoid revealing embarrassing information.  Avenatti is in prison for exactly that same conduct with Nike.  Trump is actually the victim of the crime.  And after Daniels is paid off and signs a legal nondisclosure agreement, she tries to blackmail Trump for even more money using a convicted felon as her attorney.  What crime has Trump committed?  He has plenty of money.  If wants to pay off porn stars or anyone for real or made-up claims, he can legally do so.  You don't think Bill Clinton and many celebrities haven't done this many times over?  Falsifying records?  How can that be an independent crime if there is no underlying crime to begin with?  And it is based on the testimony of another convicted and disbarred attorney who has acknowledged that he is a liar with a clear agenda against Trump.  Compare this situation with the actual evidence of corruption and money laundering of millions of dollars by Biden, Inc. from numerous foreign governments.  The evidence in that case doesn't rely upon porn stars, felons, and disbarred attorneys.  It comes from banks and financial records.

How can that be an independent crime if there is no underlying crime to begin with?

Ask Michael Cohen. He was Trump's lawyer dealing with this matter and, guess what, he went to prison for it.

How could Cohen have been convicted for acting on behalf of his client, Donald Trump, when there was no crime committed?

And why would the House Republicans try so desperately to discredit the Manhattan D.A. when this is not a federal matter and Jordan's committees have no jurisdiction? 

And it is based on the testimony of another convicted and disbarred attorney who has acknowledged that he is a liar with a clear agenda against Trump.

You mean the guy who did all sorts of legal (and likely illegal) things from Trump, had direct involvement in the Stormy Daniels matter, and who got thrown under the bus by his client? Sure he has an agenda (wouldn't you with such a creep as your former client) and he may well have been disbarred but he still has the goods on Trump!

Compare this situation with the actual evidence of corruption and money laundering of millions of dollars by Biden, Inc. from numerous foreign governments.

What actual evidence are you talking about? There is none, at least not yet! All there is are some bank transactions that were reported as "suspicious" by a bank. Not a day goes by that banks do not make such reports. They warrant investigation but for most of them there is an explanation and hardly ever does on result in a criminal investigation, notwithstanding the BS put out by the GOP clowns in the House.
 
As per usual you are watching the Fox news lies channel way too much and are jumping to conclusions you can not back up with evidence. It's the classic GOP/MAGA BS all over again... making all sorts of wild claims and ultimately ending up with nothing!

The evidence in that case doesn't rely upon porn stars, felons, and disbarred attorneys.  It comes from banks and financial records.

The evidence for what exactly? A transfer or even multiple transfers? My bank reports any transfer over $50.000 as suspicious because by law they are obliged to. By itself it's meaningless.
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« Reply #491 on: March 20, 2023, 11:39:41 PM »
In the midst of endless war and the leader of China meeting with Putin, the Biden White House staged a press briefing today featuring the cast of the show "Ted Lasso."  When a reporter from Africa tried to ask a relevant question and direct the briefing back to planet Earth, he was chastised.  He apparently has never been allowed to ask a single question.  What a clown show.  Putin and Xi must be laughing their backsides off in Moscow.  They can't believe how far the US has fallen under Ukraine Joe.  Weakness and incompetence at every turn.

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« Reply #492 on: March 21, 2023, 12:56:41 AM »
In the midst of endless war and the leader of China meeting with Putin, the Biden White House staged a press briefing today featuring the cast of the show "Ted Lasso."  When a reporter from Africa tried to ask a relevant question and direct the briefing back to planet Earth, he was chastised.  He apparently has never been allowed to ask a single question.  What a clown show.  Putin and Xi must be laughing their backsides off in Moscow.  They can't believe how far the US has fallen under Ukraine Joe.  Weakness and incompetence at every turn.

When you worship Putin and Xi as much as you do, why are you still living in a country you clearly hate?

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« Reply #493 on: March 21, 2023, 12:30:14 PM »
When you worship Putin and Xi as much as you do, why are you still living in a country you clearly hate?

Maybe I can move to "Europe."  It is actually Ukraine Joe and his clown show that are destroying the US.  He is staging a promo for a TV show while China and Russia are becoming allies.  Old Joe has actually done something even Karl Marx couldn't do.  He has brought China and Russia together in an alliance against the US.  And over a place that most Americans have never even heard of and couldn't find on a map.  Many of whom in the disputed region are of ethnic Russians who would no doubt prefer to be part of Russia instead of dying in an endless war.  But the wars must go on and on.  Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Ukraine.  Almost continuous war over the last 60 years.  The politicians and their paymasters are getting rich.   

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« Reply #494 on: March 21, 2023, 12:34:54 PM »
Cohen's former attorney testified yesterday that Cohen lied about the payments as part of a deal to avoid jail.  The Stasi-like prosecutors in NY threatened to imprison Cohen and members of his family unless he gave them information on Trump.  And so he did.  Still no crime even if all the allegations are true.  Trump broke no law in using his own money to pay someone to not speak about a consensual affair.  He was actually the victim of blackmail.  It is not "falsifying" business records to characterize such payment as a legal expense.  His attorney was involved in the deal.  It was a legal expense. 

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« Reply #495 on: March 21, 2023, 04:14:43 PM »
Cohen's former attorney testified yesterday that Cohen lied about the payments as part of a deal to avoid jail.  The Stasi-like prosecutors in NY threatened to imprison Cohen and members of his family unless he gave them information on Trump.  And so he did.  Still no crime even if all the allegations are true.  Trump broke no law in using his own money to pay someone to not speak about a consensual affair.  He was actually the victim of blackmail.  It is not "falsifying" business records to characterize such payment as a legal expense.  His attorney was involved in the deal.  It was a legal expense.

Cohen's former attorney testified yesterday that Cohen lied about the payments as part of a deal to avoid jail.

You mean the guy who has been buddies with Trump for years and played his part in screwing Cohen under the pretence of wanting to help him? That guy?

He was actually the victim of blackmail.

Really? So, Trump has something to hide? How else could he have been blackmailed?

It is not "falsifying" business records to characterize such payment as a legal expense.  His attorney was involved in the deal.  It was a legal expense.

Thank you for this display of total ignorance. Paying a pornstar isn't a "legal expense".
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