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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2021, 06:58:37 PM »
100% false.

President Biden entered office with the worst health and economic crisis in American history. On day one, he got to work ordering millions of doses of vaccines for ALL Americans which Criminal Donald refused to do. He made getting a vaccine easy and accessible for every county in every state. 4 million shots per day was a record number and cases and deaths were at an all time low. Medical experts warned that unvaccinated people will suffer mass infection and death if they don't get vaccinated. And that's what we are seeing today with right wingers dying in mass numbers because they choose to listen to false right wing propaganda.

President Biden has done all he could to make the case to get vaccinated and people are still refusing. As a result children are dying, hospitals are maxed out and doctors/nurses are overwhelmed. President Biden never politicized anything because a virus is not political. The right wing media and right wing Republicans have politicized masks and vaccines right out of the gate. They turned the narrative into a "freedom issue" instead of the health crisis that it is.

The fact is over 81 million people voted for President Biden to end this pandemic and the overwhelming majority of Americans support vaccine mandates because we want life to return to normal. That is exactly what the President is doing. What the American people want. As long as right wingers refuse to get vaccinated we will no longer have our freedoms to live a normal virus free life.

"Praying for a red wave"? :D. Where do you come up with this stuff?           

Sorry, mandates will not be "tied up in courts" because the Supreme Court already ruled in 1905 that vaccine mandates are perfectly constitutional with the Jacobson v Massachusetts ruling and that sets precedent for future mandates. In that ruling it says "one man's liberty cannot deprive his neighbors of their own liberty" — in this case by allowing the spread of disease. The court’s ruling makes clear that a community in danger has every right to protect itself. This is what elected officials are supposed to do but right wingers refuse to protect the community at large and President Biden is stepping in. American citizens have the right and freedom to live free from an infectious disease and these anti vaxxers are infringing upon our rights as they claim they have the "freedom" to kill others with a deadly virus. That ruling was 7-2 so right wing Governors have no leg to stand on which is why they are outraged.       

It is a fact that cases are up 300% under Biden despite being gifted the cure by Trump.  Trump was held responsible for the deaths and cases that arose under his administration even before the vaccine was developed.  So I'm just applying your standard to the current situation.  It is also simply a fact that multiple states, employers, and private individuals are going to sue to stop the mandate.  That will be tied up in court for years regardless of the eventual outcome.  Biden and his administration know that but don't care.  They are doing this for purely political motives and the timing coincides with the California recall election.  They know with absolute certainty that not one additional person will be vaccinated for years to come as the result of this mandate.  In fact, many of those who are skeptical of the vaccine will be all the more reluctant to take it.  What they are attempting to do is distract from the multitude of disasters unfolding elsewhere such as the recent Afghanistan debacle.  Biden's cratering poll numbers are indicative of the widespread loss of confidence in him and he wants to deflect away from his obvious incompetence and weakness.  Unfortunately, he has badly bungled even the pandemic despite have the solution gifted to him even before taking office.  He is the weakest and most inept president since Jimmy Carter. 

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2021, 10:57:13 PM »
It is a fact that cases are up 300% under Biden despite being gifted the cure by Trump.  Trump was held responsible for the deaths and cases that arose under his administration even before the vaccine was developed.  So I'm just applying your standard to the current situation.  It is also simply a fact that multiple states, employers, and private individuals are going to sue to stop the mandate.  That will be tied up in court for years regardless of the eventual outcome.  Biden and his administration know that but don't care.  They are doing this for purely political motives and the timing coincides with the California recall election.  They know with absolute certainty that not one additional person will be vaccinated for years to come as the result of this mandate.  In fact, many of those who are skeptical of the vaccine will be all the more reluctant to take it.  What they are attempting to do is distract from the multitude of disasters unfolding elsewhere such as the recent Afghanistan debacle.  Biden's cratering poll numbers are indicative of the widespread loss of confidence in him and he wants to deflect away from his obvious incompetence and weakness.  Unfortunately, he has badly bungled even the pandemic despite have the solution gifted to him even before taking office.  He is the weakest and most inept president since Jimmy Carter.

More false comments. 

COVID cases are up because right wing Trump supporters refuse to get vaccinated and GOP Governors are allowing the virus to spread. ​If he "gifted" them with a vaccine then they should be taking it. The fact is Criminal Donald had nothing to do with the vaccine. The vaccines were funded and developed by other countries and scientists and Criminal Donald falsely tried to take credit for it because he is a fraud.   

Right wingers can sue all they want but they will lose. Like President Biden said, "have at it". Jacobson V Massachusetts already made clear that vaccine mandates are perfectly constitutional.

Again, you are making up nonsense. President Biden ran on ending this pandemic and that's why the overwhelming majority of Americans elected him. That's why he is implementing mandates.

All these disasters you speak of is a result of the weakness and faliures from 4 years of Trump who created them and handed them off to President Biden to take care of. The covid crisis, economic crisis, and the Afghanistan deal were all because of Trump.           

Same old lame recycled line of "Biden being weak". President Biden took on the right wing media and the most dangerous regime in history and easily defeated them. And a 52% approval rating with 61% of Americans supporting mandates has his back and are determined to end this pandemic.

Are you vaccinated Richard?   

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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2021, 11:10:08 PM »
Another Qanon lunatic is dead for believing in bogus conspiracy theories instead of taking a safe and effective vaccine. This woman used to go to stores and harassed employees and customers refusing to wear a mask as she recorded it on video. Her ignorance allowed her to contract Covid-19 and end up in the ICU taking up a bed from someone that really needed it. Quack Trump lawyer Lin Wood demanded that doctors give her Ivermectin which a horse dewormer for livestock animals that does nothing to cure the virus. So, these idiots make up all kinds of lies about the vaccine, and when they get really sick, they take medicine for horses believing that will cure them. You can't make this stuff up. These people are insane. If she would have taken the vaccine she still would be alive today.       


QAnon conspiracist dies from COVID-19 -- and Trump-loving attorney accuses hospital of 'medical murder'





A QAnon conspiracist has died from COVID-19 after becoming the center of a harassment campaign against the Chicago hospital where she was being treated for the deadly virus.

Veronica Wolski died early Monday after spending weeks at Amita Resurrection Hospital, which was targeted for harassment by pro-Donald Trump conspiracists Lin Wood, Sidney Powell and Michael Flynn over doctors' refusal to treat her with ivermectin instead of proven therapies, reported Newsweek.

"I have just learned that Veronica Wolski saw the face of God this morning at 12:44 a.m.," Wood posted on his Telegram account.

Wood had asked his more than 800,000 social media followers to call the hospital to demand ivermectin for Wolski, who he now claims was murdered by medical personnel there for withholding the medication used to treat parasitic infections and is unproven as a treatment for COVID-19.

"It is our responsibility to ensure that these medical murders stop NOW and the perpetrators be brought to justice," Wood posted. "Veronica will be on her bridge in Heaven looking down on us. We must do our best to make sure Veronica did not leave this Earth in vain."

https://www.rawstory.com/veronica-wolski/

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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2021, 11:13:12 PM »
5 Southern California siblings lost both unvaccinated parents to COVID-19 within weeks

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 75% of U.S.-based adults have been at least partially vaccinated for the COVID-19 coronavirus. But the pandemic continues to be deadly in the United States — especially among the unvaccinated — and more than one family member can easily be affected. In Southern California's Inland Empire east of Los Angeles, for example, five siblings lost both of their parents to COVID-19 within weeks.

Génesis Miranda Miramontes, a reporter for Los Angeles' KTLA-TV Channel 5, explains, "Daniel Macias, a 39-year-old middle school teacher, was diagnosed with COVID-19 soon after his wife, Davy Macias, a 37-year-old San Bernardino County nurse who had recently given birth to their fifth child before dying from COVID-19 late last month. The couple leaves behind their newborn daughter and four other children, ages seven, five, three and two. The children are being cared for by their grandparents, family members said."

According to Miramontes, Daniel Macias "was diagnosed not long after his wife" and "was hospitalized soon after, according to family members."

"His wife, Davy, was a labor and delivery nurse at Kaiser Permanente in the city of Fontana," Miramontes notes. "She had worked throughout the pandemic until she was hospitalized with the coronavirus while seven months pregnant, family members said."

The current COVID-19 surge in the U.S. is being driven largely by the highly contagious Delta variant, which is what Daniel and Davy Macias were infected with, according to a GoFundMe page.

Miramontes reports, "The couple tested positive for COVID-19 after having traveled to the beach and a water park with their children, Davy's brother, Vong Serey, told KTLA. Around the time Davy was 34 weeks pregnant, six days after she was hospitalized, the doctor delivered the baby about six weeks early, Serey said. Davy never got the chance to meet her newborn daughter, according to the GoFundMe page."

Serey was reluctant to be vaccinated for COVID-19 but changed his mind after Daniel and Davy Macias were infected.

Serey told KTLA, "COVID doesn't play by the rules. It doesn't matter — you're young, old — it can hit anybody at this point…. I did change my mind. When it hits this close to home, it does, it really affects you. It opens your eyes."

https://www.rawstory.com/5-southern-california-siblings-lost-both-un-vaccinated-parents-to-19-within-weeks/

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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2021, 11:20:40 PM »
Trump stooge failed Florida Governor Ron DeSantis aka DeathSantis is covering up the death totals in the state because he doesn't want known how many people he actually is killing daily in Florida.     


Florida Won't Release Number of COVID Deaths in Individual Counties Despite Surge in Cases

The exact number of COVID deaths in counties in Florida remains unconfirmed as the state reportedly will not reveal the data as cases surge amid the highly transmissible Delta variant.

Florida releases data related to COVID deaths on a state level, but hasn't been disclosing the number of deaths on a county level for three months, The Palm Beach Post reported.

According to the outlet, people in Florida will find it difficult to know the exact number of COVID deaths in each of the state's 67 counties due to the shortcomings and inconsistencies in data published on federal websites.

The state's health department points to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website for county deaths, but the CDC number doesn't represent an accurate state tally and its county-level-COVID-deaths map shows only blanks for each county.

The department used to report county death tolls on a daily basis before it began in June releasing weekly reports, which lack those local death counts, according to the Post.

The department's spokesperson, Weesam Khoury, told the Post that the department is "not hiding anything."

"When we give it to the CDC, it's there," Khoury said, referring to the CDC's provisional data of COVID death counts in U.S. counties. However, deaths in 33 Florida counties are reportedly less than the state health department's last county report in June, according to the news outlet.

The CDC and the state's department of health have been reporting different numbers of COVID deaths statewide. For instance, in its weekly report, the state health department reported a total of 46,324 COVID deaths in Florida during the period between August 27 and September 1, while the CDC reported 42,731 COVID deaths through September 2.

Jean Malecki, a former Palm Beach County health department director, explained that the way Florida currently reports COVID death counts "hides the reality of what people are facing and that's just wrong."

"Anytime (the government) hides information, you question what's going on. And you don't trust. And when you lose the trust of the people you serve and the people's lives you're responsible for, that's wrong," Malecki told The Palm Beach Post.

The Delta variant remains dominant in the Sunshine State, but hundreds of cases of the new Mu variant have recently been recorded. The Mu variant is reportedly more transmissible and potentially more resistant to vaccines compared to other strains.

On September 6, there were 10,162 new cases in Florida, including 305 confirmed Mu variant cases, according to data from the Outbreak.info website.

Newsweek contacted the Florida Department of Health for comment but did not hear back in time for publication.

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-wont-release-number-covid-deaths-individual-counties-despite-surge-cases-1628067

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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2021, 01:11:38 AM »
More false comments. 

COVID cases are up because right wing Trump supporters refuse to get vaccinated and GOP Governors are allowing the virus to spread. ​If he "gifted" them with a vaccine then they should be taking it. The fact is Criminal Donald had nothing to do with the vaccine. The vaccines were funded and developed by other countries and scientists and Criminal Donald falsely tried to take credit for it because he is a fraud.   

Right wingers can sue all they want but they will lose. Like President Biden said, "have at it". Jacobson V Massachusetts already made clear that vaccine mandates are perfectly constitutional.

Again, you are making up nonsense. President Biden ran on ending this pandemic and that's why the overwhelming majority of Americans elected him. That's why he is implementing mandates.

All these disasters you speak of is a result of the weakness and faliures from 4 years of Trump who created them and handed them off to President Biden to take care of. The covid crisis, economic crisis, and the Afghanistan deal were all because of Trump.           

Same old lame recycled line of "Biden being weak". President Biden took on the right wing media and the most dangerous regime in history and easily defeated them. And a 52% approval rating with 61% of Americans supporting mandates has his back and are determined to end this pandemic.

Are you vaccinated Richard?

That is a fake narrative being perpetuated by Dems.  Trying to pit the vaccinated against the unvaccinated like they do with race, gender, and income as though Americans are enemies.  They do this solely for political purposes.  Obviously, no one who is reluctant to take the vaccine will be convinced to do so by being told they are evil, stupid, and racist.  That just hardens them into their position.  The Dems are smart enough people to realize that.  But that is not the objective.  The objective is not to convince more people to get vaccinated, but to use the pandemic for political gain.  Thus, the timing of the mandate to coincide with the California recall where the mandate is popular among voters.  I've been vaccinated for many months just like President Trump who was among the first advocates for a vaccine while dems were casting skepticism upon it when it was to their political benefit to do so.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2021, 02:25:11 AM »
That is a fake narrative being perpetuated by Dems.  Trying to pit the vaccinated against the unvaccinated like they do with race, gender, and income as though Americans are enemies.  They do this solely for political purposes.  Obviously, no one who is reluctant to take the vaccine will be convinced to do so by being told they are evil, stupid, and racist.  That just hardens them into their position.  The Dems are smart enough people to realize that.  But that is not the objective.  The objective is not to convince more people to get vaccinated, but to use the pandemic for political gain.  Thus, the timing of the mandate to coincide with the California recall where the mandate is popular among voters.  I've been vaccinated for many months just like President Trump who was among the first advocates for a vaccine while dems were casting skepticism upon it when it was to their political benefit to do so.

The coronavirus doesn't care what age, race, gender, or political party you belong to.

Democrats are trying to save American lives by getting everybody vaccinated so we can end this pandemic and return back to life as we knew it.

Republicans have stood in the way since day one pushing lies, conspiracy theories, and making it a "freedom" issue instead of the health crisis that it is.

There is nothing political about wearing a mask to stop the spread of the virus. There is nothing political about getting vaccinated to save lives. Republicans are making masks and vaccines political. All they have to do is encourage masks and vaccines and they refuse to do so. Instead they are fighting it because the minority of the population which is their base would turn on them if they told them to do it. So they are letting people die just so they can get some votes in the next election.     

Criminal Donald never advocated for vaccines. He called the virus a "hoax" and pushed bogus remedies like Hydroxychloroquine, UV lights, and bleach for months. When he was informed that the vaccines were about ready to be rolled out he then said vaccines were going to be in use and he tried to take credit for it because he thought he could gain a few votes.           


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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2021, 03:01:09 AM »
Here's another hateful right winger who pushed lies and is now dead from COVID. Cue Freddie Mercury and Queen.

Colorado pastor who mocked AIDS deaths and spread vaccine conspiracy theories dies from COVID-19




Christian radio host Bob Enyart became infamous during his career for reading obituaries from people who died of AIDS while playing the Queen song "Another One Bites the Dust."

Now he's the one who is gone.

After contracting COVID, Enyart ended up in the hospital after caring for his wife with the virus, and he lasted less than two weeks with the disease. The announcement was made by Real Science Radio co-host Fred Williams, the FriendlyAtheist reported. Williams posted the news on Facebook.

He was "one of the smartest, and without question the wisest person I've known," said Williams.

Enyart not only refused to get a COVID vaccine, he believed a false conspiracy theory that researchers "tested these three products [vaccines] on the cells of aborted babies." Testing vaccines on anything dead wouldn't work because there would be no blood to deliver the vaccine to the system.

LGBTQ broadcaster Dan Savage tweeted that he actually "teared up" at the news, saying, "My friends who died of AIDS were mocked and condemned by this asshole and others like him. Each and every one of my dead friends would've been first in line to get vaccinated against HIV to protect themselves and others. AND OTHERS. Not just themselves. And this guy couldn't be bothered to get vaccinated against COVID even to protect himself. He encouraged others to put themselves at risk. To put others at risk. He was the moral equivalent of some as*hole poking holes in condoms in 1986."

"This is a guy who filed a lawsuit against Colorado's COVID restrictions, only to have a Trump-appointed judge grant a temporary restraining order that allowed indoor churches to open to the masses without having to wear masks. How many people caught the virus because of that irresponsible lawsuit?" the FriendlyAtheist asked.

https://www.rawstory.com/christian-bob-enyart/

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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2021, 04:42:30 PM »
The coronavirus doesn't care what age, race, gender, or political party you belong to.

Democrats are trying to save American lives by getting everybody vaccinated so we can end this pandemic and return back to life as we knew it.

Republicans have stood in the way since day one pushing lies, conspiracy theories, and making it a "freedom" issue instead of the health crisis that it is.

There is nothing political about wearing a mask to stop the spread of the virus. There is nothing political about getting vaccinated to save lives. Republicans are making masks and vaccines political. All they have to do is encourage masks and vaccines and they refuse to do so. Instead they are fighting it because the minority of the population which is their base would turn on them if they told them to do it. So they are letting people die just so they can get some votes in the next election.     

Criminal Donald never advocated for vaccines. He called the virus a "hoax" and pushed bogus remedies like Hydroxychloroquine, UV lights, and bleach for months. When he was informed that the vaccines were about ready to be rolled out he then said vaccines were going to be in use and he tried to take credit for it because he thought he could gain a few votes.         

So much revisionist history.  It was Trump who advocated the quick development of a vaccine.  He created Operation Warp Speed to facilitate the vaccine.  Biden and Harris expressed skepticism of the vaccine.  Trump did everything he could within his powers as president to encourage the development and distribution of the vaccine.  When Biden took over the vaccine was already being distributed to the public.   What Trump didn't do is force the vaccine on anyone for political purposes.  Anyone can view the video of Nancy Pelosi, Fauci, and Biden just a few months ago confirming that there could be no legal mandate for the vaccine.  They have changed direction once again purely for political reasons to shift the discussion away from the unfolding disasters under Biden. 

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2021, 12:34:34 AM »
So much revisionist history.  It was Trump who advocated the quick development of a vaccine.  He created Operation Warp Speed to facilitate the vaccine.  Biden and Harris expressed skepticism of the vaccine.  Trump did everything he could within his powers as president to encourage the development and distribution of the vaccine.  When Biden took over the vaccine was already being distributed to the public.   What Trump didn't do is force the vaccine on anyone for political purposes.  Anyone can view the video of Nancy Pelosi, Fauci, and Biden just a few months ago confirming that there could be no legal mandate for the vaccine.  They have changed direction once again purely for political reasons to shift the discussion away from the unfolding disasters under Biden.

So much made up nonsense.

Criminal Donald had nothing to do with the vaccine. Pfizer was funded and developed by Germany. I've told you this many times and you keep posting the same nonsense.

Criminal Donald never once told his base to get vaccinated when the vaccines became available. The right wing media began pushing vaccine lies and he never did nothing to refute those lies.

Criminal Donald is a pathological liar, so of course President Biden and Vice President Harris would not trust anything Trump said. They waited until the CDC confirmed the vaccines were safe then they were both vaccinated last December before Christmas. President Biden and Vice President Harris then began urging all Americans to get vaccinated unlike Criminal Donald.

There are no "unfolding disasters" under Biden, all the disasters happened under Trump and Biden is cleaning up the mess he was given.

Saving lives is not political. But somehow you don't seem to understand that.

The #1 priority of a President is to keep Americans safe and that's what President Biden is doing by mandating vaccines to end this pandemic. Nothing about that is political.           
             
A few months ago, there was no Delta variant which was killing children and now there is. Experts are worried that a new variant will mutate into an even deadlier variant so vaccine mandates are now required.

Teachers, schools, doctors are all demanding vaccine mandates. 61% of Americans want vaccine mandates. President Biden is doing what Americans want.

Red states like Mississippi have strict vaccine mandates for disease like measles, mumps etc. but they object to a Covid 19 vaccine? They are doing that for political reasons.

You have no argument on this. President Biden and Democrats are saving lives while Republicans are killing their own supporters by refusing to do anything. They have no business being elected officials when they allow disease and death to ravage their states in communities while doing nothing.

President Biden ran on ending this pandemic, and that's what he's doing, and the overwhelming majority of Americans support him.               

 

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