Author Topic: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?  (Read 597 times)

Offline Fred Litwin

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Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« on: September 02, 2021, 02:11:59 PM »
Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?

Richard E. Sprague convinced Jim Garrison that Bradley was one of the tramps. Some staffers weren't so sure. None of it made any sense - particularly since Roger Craig said that Bradley was one of the 'secret service' men outside the TSBD. Here is an exercise in silly conspiracy thinking.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/was-edgar-eugene-bradley-one-of-the-three-tramps

Offline Robert Reeves

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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2021, 08:26:48 PM »
Oi Fred, if Fred is your real name? Are you an American? I don't know many Americans named Fred.

Anyway, you might want to amend your details about the three tramps.

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- It emerged in 1993 that the three tramps were exactly that - the Dallas City Council released its JFK assassination files. Arrest records were found for the three tramps - their names were Harold Doyle, John Gedney, and Gus Abrams. Two of the tramps were still alive and they confirmed that they were the ones pictured.

You might not have been closely following thing's around here lately. I noticed you drop a bomb and leave. Anyway, I have shown that the three tramps (photographed) were actually released on the day of the assassination. Lets just say that. Rather than start a debate about if these suspects were released within an hour of being detained at his majesty Decker's  pleasure.



That document above is the FBI interview conducted with Marvin Wise, one of the arresting officers, and one of the photographed Dallas cops. He CLEARLY states that the tramps he arrested were released, on the day. Like I said, I wont get into a debate of exactly when on the 22nd they were allowed to walk out of the [doors]. But they did.

Below is Doyle's FBI statement where he says they (him and his tramp buddies) were released after two or three nights. Their arrest sheet says they were actually released on the 24th, I believe.



I too got the tramp documents from Denis Morissette's website. I presume you just got his name wrong?

Also, where did you read about Doyle stating he was one of the three tramps photographed. Please give the source as I must have missed this. This would be crucial, I think.

Hey Fred, I nearly forgot, did you know that one of the other cops that detained the three tramps  William Chambers, he stated that at one point the three tramps were actually facing legit questioning as to which one of them shot the president? I spombleprofglidnoctobuns you not Fred.

Look below Fred



Those are FBI interview notes with Chambers in 92.

Seems a real pity these three tramps were released presumably minutes or even hours after being found hiding in a box car behind the grassy knoll. Just a few hundred feet from where the president was shot.

Be honest Fred, are you curious? are you now burning this internal curiosity to find out what the hell happened to these three mysterious tramps that appear to have just got away without anyone really knowing their true identities. Or should we just be curious to find out if 'the supposed cop' that told Marvin Wise the tramps had been released was actually a legit cop. Or maybe Wise was going senile and his statements 30 years later are not worth jackshit. Weird Innit! Fred!

What do you think about that, Fred?

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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2021, 08:45:02 PM »
Have you not seen the arrest records of the three tramps? 

Their names were Harold Doyle, John Gedney, and Gus Abrams.

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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2021, 08:55:32 PM »
I have Fred, I have copies of all three. They're incomplete. But that is irrelevant ... did you not see officer Wise statement to the FBI IN 92. He clearly states the three tramps he arrested and was photographed with in dealey plaza were released that day (time unknown).

Officer Wise below



I haven't read your book Fred, But you may have to amend the details if you've incorrectly stated Doyle, Gedney, Abrams being the three tramps.

But you have the details of where Doyle stated he was the tramps photographed? I await your document.

Here's the incomplete arrest sheet of Gedney, It means NOTHING.



An incomplete document without any fingerprints/arrest number.

Fred, are you willing to admit we do not know the identities of the three tramps - if we're to believe Marvin Wise' 1992 statement to the FBI?
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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2021, 09:00:31 PM »
If I had $1 for every government form not fully filled out.

We're dealing with humans, here.

There is no mystery here. You are trying to create a mystery.

There is none.

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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2021, 09:02:03 PM »
Do tramps hang around in three's like that? Its not like being a tramp is a "thing" that causes them to congregate.

And they have no bags with them (except the old guy). No tent or any thing like that.
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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2021, 09:08:21 PM »
If I had $1 for every government form not fully filled out.

We're dealing with humans, here.

There is no mystery here. You are trying to create a mystery.

There is none.

fred

Are you having a laugh Fred?

No mystery? who the duck do you think you're kidding?

The officer photographed with the three tramps says they were released THE SAME DAY & possibly just an hour or so after being taken to Decker's.



If you're a serious journalist/author it's your duty to acknowledge you may have not researched your material to the fullest. And now as you have been made aware of a possible error it's up to you to do some research or amend the false statement you've now got on your hands. BTW Marvin Wise is still alive. Phone him up and find out what exactly he saw that day.


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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2021, 09:14:41 PM »
Here is a rare interview of Officer Vaughn talking about the three tramps. He says they were picked up about an hour after the assassination. 1 hour and 4 minutes in on this video:


Offline Robert Reeves

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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2021, 09:22:00 PM »
Here is a rare interview of Officer Vaughn talking about the three tramps. He says they were picked up about an hour after the assassination. 1 hour and 4 minutes in on this video:


Thank you for posting this. I have not seen this before. Interesting.

If you see the arrest sheets they were arrested ''right after JFK shot''

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I have seen an interview with Doyle 'character' and he stated the same thing. They were arrested very soon after the assassination. I vaguely remember him describing the crowds gathered as being very angry at them.

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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2021, 09:33:07 PM »
What is quiet possible here is that the dpd let these guys go when lho was arrested. And then years later, when JFK researchers started making noise about the three tramps, the dpd fabricated arrest sheets with made up names to take the heat off them for not having detained these 3 men properly at the time. They obviously had nothing to do with the shooting but I wonder what their story was.

 

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