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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #328 on: September 17, 2021, 11:19:28 PM »
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You are the one who said "the day before" now it is weeks before? And Oswald kept it under the bed? [Housekeeping would never find it there ::)] Then why all the brewhaha about Oswald needing to ride out that Thursday evening with Frazier [to supposedly get the rifle]?
Again, Richard Smith has chased his tail into a corner.

We know Oswald did keep a gun at the boardinghouse.  His pistol.  If he keeps his rifle in blanket, as he did in the Paine's garage, then it would go unnoticed.  But you are taking this down the usual CTer rabbit hole.  I'm not arguing that Oswald did keep his rifle at the boardinghouse or that he took it to the TSBD on some day prior to the 11.22.  I'm simply pointing out that the authorities did not need a witness to confirm how Oswald got the rifle into the building.  There were plausible ways he could have gotten the rifle there unnoticed.  In fact, it is CTers that argue that someone somehow smuggled the MC rifle into the building unnoticed.  The "brewhaha" about Oswald needing a ride on Thursday is because that is actually the way he obtained the rifle to bring into the TSBD the next day.  Can you understand the distinction between rebutting the claim that the conspirators needed a witness to lie to explain how the rifle got to the building and the evidence that lends itself to the conclusion that Oswald did bring the rifle to work that morning? 

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #329 on: September 17, 2021, 11:20:12 PM »
You are the one who said "the day before" now it is weeks before? And Oswald kept it under the bed? [Housekeeping would never find it there ::)] Then why all the brewhaha about Oswald needing to ride out that Thursday evening with Frazier [to supposedly get the rifle]?
Again, Richard Smith has chased his tail into a corner.

Always fun to watch!  Thumb1:

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #330 on: September 17, 2021, 11:36:49 PM »
In fact, it is CTers that argue that someone somehow smuggled the MC rifle into the building unnoticed.

Unnoticed, lol




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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #331 on: September 18, 2021, 07:49:26 PM »
Interesting, Mr Freeman, thank you  Thumb1:

I seriously have to wonder did Mr Frazier give Mr Oswald a ride after the shooting? It would help explain
-the horrors he was put through at City Hall that night
-the unconvincing/inconsistent account he has given over the years of his own post-assassination movements.
-his very late telling of a story of having seen Mr Oswald disappear from sight several minutes after the shooting

Is anyone on the record as having seen or spoken to Mr Frazier on the first floor of the Depository after the shooting? Surely, if Mr Oswald had been noticed absent, Mr Frazier (his closest buddy there and the man who gave him a ride to and from work) would have been the obvious person to check in with.................

Just a thought------------and, by the way, one that assumes no necessarily nefarious intentions or activities on Mr Frazier's part

In an interview earlier this year---------------


---------------Mr Frazier says that after leaving the Depository he drove to the hospital where his stepfather was a patient. Within minutes of arriving in his stepfather's room, he was arrested. Time: approx 2pm

Mr Frazier was not in fact picked up at the hospital until around 6:30pm.

It's kinda hard to believe that Mr Frazier spent 4+ hours by his stepfather's side and subsequently remembered these 4+ hours as a matter of minutes!

Something VERY off here...........

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #332 on: September 18, 2021, 08:53:13 PM »
In an interview earlier this year---------------


---------------Mr Frazier says that after leaving the Depository he drove to the hospital where his stepfather was a patient. Within minutes of arriving in his stepfather's room, he was arrested. Time: approx 2pm

Mr Frazier was not in fact picked up at the hospital until around 6:30pm.

It's kinda hard to believe that Mr Frazier spent 4+ hours by his stepfather's side and subsequently remembered these 4+ hours as a matter of minutes!

Something VERY off here...........

Yes, Frazier's interview should have been broadcast as " Story time" ..... He's so full of BS now that it's like trying to pick gnat sh t from pepper....   It's a shame that Frazier enjoys being questioned by the gullible suckers that don't know much about the event.      Everything he now says will be recorded as the truth.....What a shame.

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #333 on: September 18, 2021, 09:35:42 PM »
Yes, Frazier's interview should have been broadcast as " Story time" ..... He's so full of BS now that it's like trying to pick gnat sh t from pepper....   It's a shame that Frazier enjoys being questioned by the gullible suckers that don't know much about the event.      Everything he now says will be recorded as the truth.....What a shame.

"Now"? Has he ever given a reasonable account of what he was doing during the 5+ hours between his leaving Dealey Plaza and his being picked up at the hospital?

According to a March '64 FBI interview report, Mr Frazier claimed he went directly home after leaving his workplace..........
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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #334 on: September 18, 2021, 10:39:00 PM »
Frazier's interview should have been broadcast as " Story time"  ..Everything he now says will be recorded as the truth.
If so, then his book "Steering Truth" would be an accurate title :-\
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https://www.google.com/books/edition/Steering_Truth/b5A2EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT7&printsec=frontcover

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #335 on: September 18, 2021, 11:06:05 PM »
If so, then his book "Steering Truth" would be an accurate title :-\
Preview link------
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Steering_Truth/b5A2EAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT7&printsec=frontcover


Yes, Steering the truth would be an appropriate title.....However, I believe "Bovine Tales" would be a more descriptive title.

  I did notice a big blooper in BW'sF story..... In the past he's on record as saying that Lee never carried his lunch that day, but when he was talking about the second floor lunchroom meeting between Baker and Lee Oswald he said that there was a cheese sandwich and a partly eaten apple on the table near Lee.   Thus implying that Lee was eating a sack lunch.....   Where did that sack lunch come from if it wasn't the one that Lee brought from home?
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