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Online Jerry Organ

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Re: JFK, RFK and MLK
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2021, 05:57:04 PM »
The three tramps were taken into Decker's possession and walked out through the door without ANY questioning. How is that not suspicious?

Sorry, all I see is one officer taking another officer's thought that the tramps had just been released. The tramps were taken to police headquarters but not released until, I think, Monday. The transfer (meaning the three were suddenly gone from the County Jail building) may have caused the officer to think the tramps had been released.

Who witnessed the three tramps "walked out through the door" of the County Jail? That's you adding on things.

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Offline Robert Reeves

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2021, 06:57:34 PM »
Sorry, all I see is one officer taking another officer's thought that the tramps had just been released. The tramps were taken to police headquarters but not released until, I think, Monday. The transfer (meaning the three were suddenly gone from the County Jail building) may have caused the officer to think the tramps had been released.

Who witnessed the three tramps "walked out through the door" of the County Jail? That's you adding on things.

I posted officer Wise's 1992 FBI statement. He clearly states the tramps (he escorted in the photos) were released without questioning. Yes it's up for debate just exactly how much time precisely they spent in Decker's. But Wise states 5 to 10 minutes, plus whatever time it took Decker to decide the three tramps are completely innocent and did not need any questioning on the day that JFK was assassinated.




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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2021, 07:56:25 PM »
I posted officer Wise's 1992 FBI statement. He clearly states the tramps (he escorted in the photos) were released without questioning.

Wise only says (30 years on) he was told by someone who thought the tramps were released. Neither officer said they saw the tramps "walked out through the door" nor does either one say the tramps "were released without questioning".

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Yes it's up for debate just exactly how much time precisely they spent in Decker's. But Wise states 5 to 10 minutes, plus whatever time it took Decker to decide the three tramps are completely innocent and did not need any questioning on the day that JFK was assassinated.

Where does the Wise statement say that Decker "decided the three tramps are completely innocent"? You're pulling stuff out of yer as--ss.
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Offline Robert Reeves

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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2021, 05:19:12 PM »
Wise only says (30 years on) he was told by someone who thought the tramps were released. Neither officer said they saw the tramps "walked out through the door" nor does either one say the tramps "were released without questioning".

Wise was told by a 'DEPUTY'. Not just 'SOMEONE', in fact ... a fellow cop.

If anyone is pulling stuff from their ass, it's you. And you seem to have more than enough room inside your gaping wide ass to fit the entire Warren Commission staff inside it.

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2021, 06:04:23 PM »
Wise was told by a 'DEPUTY'. Not just 'SOMEONE', in fact ... a fellow cop.

Why don't I be like a conspiracy buff? Prove the "deputy" was a deputy. Did Wise check his ID?

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If anyone is pulling stuff from their ass, it's you.

What you've added to the Wise interview that's just not there ...
  • "were released without questioning"
  • "walked out through the door"
  • "decided the three tramps are completely innocent"
  • "did not need any questioning"
... (and it doesn't seem to bother you one iota that it was pointed out.)

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And you seem to have more than enough room inside your gaping wide ass to fit the entire Warren Commission staff inside it.

You must really hate authority. Respecting the Commission (who, sure, made mistakes as did the agencies and police) doesn't mean one is surrendering their ability to think as a free man. Their assessment of the evidence and writing of the Report was very good work. I don't find as much on the CT side to have confidence in. The 1967 Thompson book was excellent; Anson and Marrs had good overviews. The Pat Speer site has good information. That's about it.

The authority that I find more distasteful comes in the form of an orange-tanned rotund Svengali-like figure.

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2021, 06:59:50 PM »

You must really hate authority. Respecting the Commission (who, sure, made mistakes as did the agencies and police) doesn't mean one is surrendering their ability to think as a free man. Their assessment of the evidence and writing of the Report was very good work. I don't find as much on the CT side to have confidence in.

I have NO DOUBT, NO DOUBT AT ALL, if the Warren Commission members were aware 3 suspects hiding in train carriages behind the knoll were at one point questioned to find out ''which one shot the president'' These suspects were seen by at least one eye witness running from the area behind the fence and onto the train. And these 3 suspects were then released, that day.

Well you are right about one thing. I generally added to Wise's words something that wasn't there. Because William Chambers, arresting officer, he recounted in his 1992 FBI interview that the tramps were questioned to ''find out which one shot the president'', and Chambers took part in a discussion to have the three tramps he arrested to be tested for gun powder.



And Wise, like you say, 30 years later - when asked the correct line of questioning, he answered what many on the Warren Commission would have been surprised to hear ... that the three tramps were released. And we are still no wiser what their real names are.

I've shown, the characters that were put forward in 1992 as being the real three tramps were released ''two or three nights later''



The arrest sheets state on the 24th.

Marvin Wise's own words.

Wise states the three tramps were released that day. The day they were apprehended. They spent no time in jail.



So are you even curious? Jerry Organ? are you curious just who these three fellows are?

The Chauncey Holt character who claimed to be the older tramp said they were released the day of the assassination. They walked in, and out the doors of Decker's. He got one thing right. Of course, he could have read Marvin Wise 1992 FBI interview and got those details. But it's interesting why the Doyle character was pushed forwards to be one of the tramps but yet no one has really bothered to read Wise's interview and see that the three tramps he arrested were released that day. Some wacko that claimed to be one of the three tramps arrested has a better grip of the true facts.

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2021, 05:40:14 PM »
Why don't I be like a conspiracy buff? Prove the "deputy" was a deputy. Did Wise check his ID?


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