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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: JFK Revisited currently has a Rotten Tomato score of 55%
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2021, 02:45:58 AM »
In this eight year old blog post, Linda Minor and Lisa Pease get to the heart of the matter...


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https://wherethegoldis.blogspot.com/2013/04/for-whom-does-cia-really-work.html
....Payne Whitney had inherited his uncle's huge mansion in New York, and the 1920 census shows Jock and Joan living there with their parents--only four people at 972 Fifth Avenue--being cared for by fifteen servants, none of whom were American-born. Payne's business address, 14 Wall Street, was the Bankers Trust Company, set up by the White and Case law firm in 1903, and was controlled by J.P. Morgan affiliates in the days prior to the creation of the Federal Reserve banking system. Before 1930 Morgan bankers controlled United States government policy on currency. According to economist Murray Rothbard, the first governor of the New York Federal Reserve Bank was:
Benjamin Strong, who had spent virtually his entire business and personal life in the circle of top associates of J.P. Morgan. A secretary of several trust companies (banks doing trust business) in New York City, Strong became neighbor and close friend of three top Morgan partners, Henry P. Davison, Dwight Morrow, and Thomas W. Lamont. Davison, in particular, became his mentor, and brought him into Morgan's Bankers Trust company, where he soon succeeded Lamont as vice-president, and then finally became president. When Strong was offered the post of Governor of the New York Fed, it was Davison who persuaded him to take the job....The main collaboration throughout the 1920s, much of it kept secret from the Federal Reserve Board in Washington, was between Strong and the man who soon became Governor of the Bank of England, Montagu Collet Norman. Norman and Strong were not only fast friends, but had important investment-banking ties, Norman's uncle having been a partner of the great English banking firm of Baring Brothers, and his grandfather a partner in the international banking house of Brown Shipley and Co., the London branch of the Wall Street banking firm of Brown Brothers. Before coming to the Bank of England, Norman himself had worked at the Wall Street office of Brown Brothers, and then returned to London to become a partner of Brown Shipley.

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https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/archival-collection/papers-benjamin-strong-jr-1160/correspondence-federal-reserve-bank-new-york-2305/fulltext

Full text of Papers of Benjamin Strong, Jr. - FRASER
In 1907 he married his second wife, who was Katherine Five children survive him. They are Benjamin Strong, Jr., Philip Strong, Mrs. Watt S. Humphrey, ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Strong_Jr.
Benjamin Strong Jr. (December 22, 1872 October 16, 1928) was an American banker. He served as Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York for 14 years until his death...

The Role of Brown Brothers Harriman

Montagu Norman had been called "the currency dictator of Europe" by the Wall Street Journal in 1927. Thus, when the U.S. government witnessed the decline of the Brown Brothers investment bank in 1926, it felt the need to shore it up with an infusion of capital and turned to the two Yale educated sons of robber baron E.H. Harriman to do so. Averell and Roland (Bunny) Harrison were the Skull and Bones friends and eventual partners of Prescott Sheldon Bush, the father and grandfather of two future presidents.

It is no coincidence that America's earliest attempts at setting up intelligence agencies called upon the talents of the sons of Wall Street bankers. Idealistic principles often fall by the wayside when big money is involved, and it is the wealthy elitists who think they have the most to lose in the games played in international market manipulations. The poor have only their lives, and are often treated as cannon fodder by such elitists on every front.



In the years between the two "great" wars the Brown Brothers partner, Montagu Norman, was actively concerned with handling Germany's reparations payments, working with the first head of the Bank for International Settlements, Gates McGarrah, whose grandson, Richard McGarrah Helms, would later head the Central Intelligence Agency.

Within six months after the above photos appeared in the news, Norman had found the perfect rich kids to entice with the power of helping to run the world. Their father's death in September 1909, when the boys were mere teenagers, had been the top headline in newspapers throughout America. Their mentor became the man most trusted by their father to run his business, Robert Scott Lovett, who would see that the boys were educated at Yale alongside his own son, Robert Abercrombie Lovett. All would rise to power in the government as the second great war approached, with help from their brothers in Skull and Bones.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-E3kdPpgrUjI/UXAfM2-JW0I/AAAAAAAAC_Q/IwaNfeHdVg4/s1600/boysintheoffice.jpg
Prescott Bush, center, with Brown Brothers Harriman partners--Bunny Harriman, Knight Woolley, and R.A. Lovett

By following the money, you often learn how the world really operates, who works for whom, so to speak.

Oliver Stone relates in his book, The Untold History of the United States:
"Prominent among the American capitalists with ties to Nazi counterparts was Prescott Bush, the father of one president and grandfather of another. Researchers have been trying for years to determine the precise nature of Bush's ties to Fritz Thyssen, the wealthy German industrialist who played a crucial role in bankrolling Hitler, as revealed in his 1941 memoirs I Paid Hitler. Thyssen ultimately repudiated the Nazi dictator and was himself imprisoned.
While incarcerated, Thyssen's vast wealth was protected overseas, much of it by the investment firm of Brown Brothers Harriman, through the holding company Union Banking Corporation. The account was managed by senior partner Prescott Bush.
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About ten years younger than the Harriman boys, Jock Whitney and his sister sat atop a huge pile of money which they would make available to those in power engaged in manipulation of international currency. Although Jock went to Yale, he was tapped for Scroll and Key, rather than the Bones secret society, and was a mere two years behind Scroll and Key member James Stillman Rockefeller (son of Elsie Stillman and William G. Rockefeller), whose Uncle Percy, married in 1901 to Elsie's sister Isabel Stillman, was a member of the Skull and Bones class of 1900. Only a year after his Yale graduation, James Stillman Rockefeller had united fortunes with the Carnegies by marrying the niece of the steel magnate whose fortune had been liquidated by the Morgan bank. Five years later, Chase Manhattan bank would acquire the Equitable Trust, another Morgan affiliate--thus shifting control of the New York Fed in 1930 from Morgan to Rockefeller-owned banks at the same time Freeport Sulphur's control shifted under the leadership of Langbourne Williams, Jr., a Stillman son-in-law, as will be detailed in the next installment.

The "facilitator" at the center of Linda Minor's research quoted above was Benjamin Strong, Jr.

 Benjamin Strong, Jr.'s son, Philip Grandin Strong :



Brainerd Walker Spencer was future USMC general Philip G Strong's Princeton roommate and then best man of CIA's NOLA chief Burke and was a lifelong friend.






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Offline John Mytton

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Re: JFK Revisited currently has a Rotten Tomato score of 55%
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2021, 02:56:00 AM »
In this eight year old blog post, Linda Minor and Lisa Pease get to the heart of the matter...

For us Dummies, it might be a good idea in your opening spiel to give a brief summation of where your following research leads because reading between the lines and trying to figure out what the heck you are trying to say, makes me skip a lot of your posts. Don't get me wrong I appreciate all the effort but sometimes it's just too difficult to make a link between your research and the JFK assassination.

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Re: JFK Revisited currently has a Rotten Tomato score of 55%
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2021, 10:54:19 PM »
For us Dummies, it might be a good idea in your opening spiel to give a brief summation of where your following research leads because reading between the lines and trying to figure out what the heck you are trying to say, makes me skip a lot of your posts. Don't get me wrong I appreciate all the effort but sometimes it's just too difficult to make a link between your research and the JFK assassination.

JohnM

JohnM, I find "things" that I truly believe "our pryin' eyes" are not meant to see. What I stumble upon literally "steal my thoughts," or at least my focus.

Expanding on Linda Minor's blog post liberally quoted in my last post,
Richard Helms's grandfather... he held the post WC's McCloy would ascend to, in 1955, of the successor bank Gates W. McGarrah headed, 15 years before McCloy. The merger of the Rockefeller's Equitable Trust with McGarrah's Mechanics and Metals Bank ultimately brought McCloy to Chase in 1955 to represent the Rockefeller interests, which is what he was also doing on the Warren Commission and in blowing upper Carter's presidency by "counseling" Jimmy Carter to allow the Shah into the U.S. "for medical treatment".

Did you know Richard Helms's father, Dietrich Helms, was a German national, or that Helms

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...Besides, Helms was a key witness before the Senate during its investigation of the CIA by the Church Committee in the mid-1970s, 1975 being called the "Year of Intelligence".[2] This investigation was hampered severely by Helms having ordered the destruction of all files related to the CIA's mind control program in 1973.[3]...

Thanks to Linda Minor bringing it to my attention, we now know that,
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...From 1923 to 1926, McGarrah, a Republican, served as a director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.[10] In 1927, he was appointed by the Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington as Federal Reserve agent and chairman of the board in New York. He also served as a director of the Astor Trust Company, the Bankers Trust Company and the Mercantile Trust Company.[1] He was a member of the board of directors of the Astor Foundation, which owned Newsweek.[11]

Newsweek's founder Thomas JC Martin was Henry Luce's cousin, a lontime editor of Time...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsweek#Founding_and_early_years_(19331961)

Looking up the wedding announcement of the first and longtime CIA domestic contacts chief of the Southeast region of the U.S., William P. Burke, I came upon something that led to a sense of how William Burke won that appointment to CIA by the late 1940s. There are two influences.

Helms's grandfather McGarrah, oversaw the work of Benjamin Strong, Jr., president of the most powerful of the Federal Reserve regional banks, New York.

Hunter Leake and Burke's successor in 1962 at the NOLA CIA office, Lloyd Ray, if I recall had the same best man in their weddings, William Hagerty, who had a sister who was a Mardi Gras secret society queen.



When I checked Burke's wedding announcement, it said his best man was Brainerd Walker Spencer.
Burke's mother-in-law, wife, and daughter :
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100653422/marietta-kittredge
Queen MKC 1900
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100521564/frances-ivy-burke
Queen MKC 1927
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100520469/constance-ivy-fedoroff
Queen MKC 1950

Burke's best man and Phil Strong's Princeton roommate Spencer, honoring Burke's daughter the year before
she was Comus's queen,

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MKC = A 1990 integration of their membership order by the City of NOLA caused Rex and Comus to cease public Mardi Gras activity instead of integrating. MKC annual king and its membership are secret. Only the king of Comus's choice of queen is announced.

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Mistick Krewe of Comus -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistick_Krewe_of_Comus
The Mistick Krewe of Comus, founded in 1856, is a New Orleans, Louisiana, Carnival krewe. ... The Krewe of Comus never resumed its parading....

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In 1857, Comus taught New Orleans how to parade | 300 for 300
https://www.300nola.com/portfolio-items/in_1857_comus_taught_new_orlea/
Jul 25, 2018 Unlike Rex, Comus' identity is never revealed. The torch carriers who helped illuminate the Comus parade were the beginning of the flambeaux .

Description of Brainerd Walker Spencer (In my last post, I included three images from a Hill School, Pottstown, PA, showing that Spencer, Phil Strong, and CD Jackson were all schoolmates.



Phil Strong was the son of Benjamin Strong, Jr. In 1954, Phil Strong, USMC reserve Captain and founder of the O.S.S. recruit training center in 1954, used his combined contacts as CIA Science Director and friend of Lockheed's Kelly Johnson, to earn Phil Strong the title of "Father of the U2".

In 1936, reserve USMC Captain Philip G Strong quit his job in banking to conduct an extended walking tour through Germany and eventually, into the Soviet Union, interviewing young people in countries on his route.
General Philip G Strong's grandson has his letters,

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https://www.tor.com/2013/08/09/toby-barlow-cia-agent-babayaga/
I Never Knew My Grandfather, Only What He Pretended to Be
Aug 9, 2013 His name is Philip Strong and he has boarded here in the Hamburg station, ... strike up an acquaintance with a fellow name Otto Fuerbringer.

Otto Fuerbringer was working in Berlin in 1936, as a correspondent for a St. Louis newspaper when he gave
Phil Strong a post olympics, tour of Berlin.

In 1963 Otto Fuerbringer was editor-in-chief at Time magazine. He likely approved Stolley's purchase of the Zapruder film. Less than four weeks later, Fuerbringer approved a Time cover and feature article of Guy de Rothschild. I guess the beginnings of the WC was "back page, stuff".

Late in 1952 :


I know a lot, but I don't know what motivated Jim Garrison or what his goals were. How can Oliver Stone, DiEugenio, or you know?
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Re: JFK Revisited currently has a Rotten Tomato score of 56%
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2021, 06:24:08 AM »
... skeptics lack the investigative training of the Commission staff and federal/state police agencies. Nah, you're a Conspiracy Theorist
Yeah, all these guys had routinely investigated presidential assassinations every day.
 
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conspiracy--- asserting that a secret of great importance is being kept from the public.

The public is always told the truth. Political leaders never lie. That also goes for cops and lawyers   :-\   

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Re: JFK Revisited currently has a Rotten Tomato score of 56%
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2021, 06:52:36 AM »
The public is always told the truth. Political leaders never lie. That also goes for cops and lawyers   :-\

Of course people lie, everyone on the Planet has told a lie, but more importantly people also talk and as Benjamin Franklin once said "Three May Keep a Secret if Two are Dead" and on a case of this size there are hundreds perhaps thousands of potential leaks but the CT's want us to believe that all these people even after decades had their mouths permanently glued shut and as we know that assumption just isn't Human nature.
Every big secret eventually comes out, because people blab, it's a fact of life.

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Re: JFK Revisited currently has a Rotten Tomato score of 56%
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2021, 07:46:46 PM »
Of course people lie, everyone on the Planet has told a lie, but more importantly people also talk and as Benjamin Franklin once said "Three May Keep a Secret if Two are Dead" and on a case of this size there are hundreds perhaps thousands of potential leaks but the CT's want us to believe that all these people even after decades had their mouths permanently glued shut and as we know that assumption just isn't Human nature.
Every big secret eventually comes out, because people blab, it's a fact of life.

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Every big secret eventually comes out, because people blab, it's a fact of life.

I'm sure that you believe this, Johnny......  But I disagree.....    If the secret is personal and humiliating or very embarrassing, it may never be exposed.   If the tale the government foisted upon the public was true....  There would be no arguing about it after nearly sixty years.    Basically the tale simply doesn't make sense, or ring true.

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Re: JFK Revisited currently has a Rotten Tomato score of 56%
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2021, 10:41:21 PM »
Every big secret eventually comes out, because people blab, it's a fact of life.

I'm sure that you believe this, Johnny......  But I disagree.....    If the secret is personal and humiliating or very embarrassing, it may never be exposed.   If the tale the government foisted upon the public was true....  There would be no arguing about it after nearly sixty years.    Basically the tale simply doesn't make sense, or ring true.

History and Discovery Channels, and the like, have shows about long-lasting unsolved mysteries. Many are down to folklore or lost to antiquity, or very limited as to individuals.



"Hunting Atlantis" (Discovery, 2021)

English-Greek novelist Stel Pavlou and American pop geologist Volcano Jess ride stick-shift Range Rovers through the Balkans and Asia Minor, pretending amazement at artifacts shown by local archeologists. Clean outdoor fun.
     

"Expedition Unknown" (Discovery, 2021)

Every-man Indiana Jones-like Josh Gates (above, right) has looked at Dillinger's Lost Loot, a Lost Avenger off California and D.B. Cooper so far this season. Gates will suit up and test out a theory, but it's really entertainment.
     

"The Proof is Out There" (History, 2021)

One of the few shows with a serious debunker (or he will say it can't be explained). New season starts Friday with a look at UFOs.
       

The shows "The Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch" and ""History's Greatest Mysteries" are not good, IMO, as were those shows a while back "tracing" Hitler to South America. "The Curse of Oak Island" is entertaining with well-intention people, but its primary quest is hopeless.

Examples of the individual or limited-number (like three or less) unsolved mysteries are Jack the Ripper, Judge Crater, Black Dahlia and the Zodiac Killer. There were a few solved mysteries involving individuals that were unraveled thought slip-ups or DNA, such as the UnaBomber, and the BTK and Golden State Killers. They might have remained mysteries forever. The Kennedy assassination was an individual-driven pseudo-mystery, quickly solved by Oswald's actions. It wasn't planned as a mystery and the assassin didn't expect to get away with it.
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