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There Was Supposed To Be An "Oswald Was Paid" Story
« on: June 10, 2021, 01:54:55 AM »
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On November 23, Sylvia Duran, the woman who spoke to “Oswald” at the Cuban Embassy, was “arrested and interrogated about Oswald” at the behest of the CIA’s Mexico City station,  and the arrest was being discussed at the highest levels of the Cuban government. Cuban President Osvaldo Dorticos clearly thought that Sylvia Duran’s arrest would generate a story about Cuba paying Oswald to kill President Kennedy.

The CIA’s Mexico City station intercepted a conversation between President Dorticos and Cuba’s Ambassador to Mexico, Joaquin Hernandez, on November 26. They immediately sent a transcript to Headquarters in a “Flash” cable, meaning it had the highest priority and was more than an emergency. The first page of the cable states, “Please note Dorticos preoccupation over question of money.”

The Cuban President asked Ambassador Hernandez, “The Federal Police of that country attempted to force Sylvia Duran to say, with promises of leniency, that we had offered money to the American?”

“No, no, nothing about money,” replied the Cuban Ambassador.

President Dorticos then asked, “And they tried to detain her, to oblige her to make a statement,” and the Cuban Ambassador replied, “She was detained and questioned with respect to this visit and the request for a visa,” and after the Cuban Ambassador explained more of what took place during the interrogation, President Dorticos again inquired, “Did they ask her some other question about money?”

“No. No absolutely,” replied Ambassador Hernandez, who told President Dorticos that the Mexican authorities had asked Sylvia Duran about her relationship with her husband and any relations with Oswald, and President Dorticos again, for the third time, asked about money.

“And they spoke of money?” he said.

“No. No. She has not told me anything about money . . . . That is, she has not told me that they spoke to her about that,” replied Ambassador Hernandez.

Upon hearing the Cuban Ambassador deny for the third time that the Mexican Federal Police tried to get Sylvia Duran to say that Cuba “had offered money to the American,” President Dorticos made reference to the Cuban Consul in Mexico, Alfredo Mirabal, stating, “Mirabal said to a friend something about that.”

President Dorticos concluded by telling the Cuban Ambassador to “question her some more. Investigate more and call me here,” which resulted in the Cuban Ambassador calling President Dorticos again in the evening, at which time the Cuban President again wanted to know “whether she had been threatened so that she would declare that the people at the Consulate had given money to this person, the American.”

The Cuban Ambassador once again replied, “No, no. Nothing of the sort.”

The President of Cuba clearly thought that a story would be generated in which “Oswald” received “money” from someone at the Cuban Consulate in Mexico, and he clearly thought that the Mexican Federal Police, who arrested Sylvia Duran at the behest of the CIA, were supposed to generate the story when they questioned her.

Alfredo Mirabal, whom Dorticos identified as his source for thinking that a story would be generated about Cuba paying Oswald to kill President Kennedy, was Cuba’s “chief of intelligence” in Mexico and was “directly in touch” with Cuba’s top intelligence chief in Cuba.

The idea that Oswald took a payoff at the Cuban Embassy to kill President Kennedy was clearly supposed to be an integral part of the story, which would obviously result in President Johnson thinking Khrushchev and Castro were behind the assassination.

Johnson would then fear a nuclear war and establish the Warren Commission with a “no conspiracy” mandate.

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There Was Supposed To Be An "Oswald Was Paid" Story
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2021, 08:12:54 PM »
On November 25, 1963, the CIA used a Nicaraguan informant to generate the “Oswald was paid” story, and on the following day, November 26, the CIA’s Mexico City station sent a cable to Headquarters stating, “At this moment, station officer and local security officer are interviewing Nicaraguan who claims that on 18 September he saw Lee Oswald receive six thousand five hundred dollars in meeting inside Cuban Embassy.”

The Nicaraguan was eventually identified in declassified CIA documents as Gilberto Alvarado Ugarte, “a well known Nicaraguan Communist underground member who was an informant of a Nicaraguan Security Service officer who was, in turn, a CIA source.”

Alvarado first “called the American Embassy” on Monday, November 25, and later met with two Embassy security officers. He told them directly that he saw the Cubans pay Oswald $6,500, which would be more than $55,000 in the year 2021. Alvarado then repeated his story to a CIA “station officer” on November 26, after which he was “interrogated” by two CIA officers.

Four days later, on November 30, 1963, one day after President Johnson established the Warren Commission to prevent a nuclear war due to Castro’s alleged involvement in killing President Kennedy, Alvarado “admitted to Mexican security officials in writing that his whole story of having seen Lee Oswald receive money in the Cuban embassy in Mexico City was false.”

The CIA stated, “Alvarado clearly was a trained intelligence agent.”

FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover called President Johnson on November 29 and told him that the Cuban payoff story is “giving us a great deal of trouble.”  But when Hoover called Johnson, the President was apparently unaware of an internal CIA cable two days earlier in which the CIA stated there is “mounting evidence that Alvarado is fabricating his story of seeing Oswald take money in the Cuban Embassy . . . . We find it incredible that the Cubans would brief and pay an assassin in front of a stranger.”

Another internal CIA cable on November 27 said Oswald “applied for unemployment insurance in New Orleans on 17 September,” one day before he was allegedly taking a payoff at the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City, and the cable states that Oswald’s “New Orleans landlady believes he was there continuously between 17 and 25 September.” This cable, too, said the information “gives further reason to believe Alvarado is fabricating,”  but as with the other cable on November 27, Johnson was obviously not informed of it.

A CIA Memo for the Record on November 27 also addresses Oswald’s whereabouts when he was supposedly at the Cuban Consulate in Mexico. It states, “A check of airlines indicates that he did not leave New Orleans that day or the following one, and every indication, including the statements by his landlady, would lead to the conclusion that he remained in New Orleans until 25 September 1963.”

As noted earlier, on November 23 the CIA’s Mexico City station did a “complete recheck” of “all visitors” to the Soviet and Cuban Embassies from September 1 through the “first half November,” and it “shows no evidence Oswald visit,”  which by itself would prove that Alvarado was lying about seeing Oswald at the Cuban Embassy on September 18.

Besides keeping President Johnson in the dark about Alvarado’s story being a fabrication, CIA Director and KGB officer John McCone sent a cable to President Johnson’s National Security Advisor, McGeorge Bundy, on November 27 vouching for Alvarado and his credibility.

McCone stated that Alvarado had been questioned “until 2 a.m. this morning,” and “the wealth of detail Alvarado gives about events and personalities involved with Oswald in Cuban Embassy is striking.” McCone also stated that the CIA officer who questioned Alvarado “was impressed by Alvarado,” who “is now hiding” in a CIA safe house.

And to add weight to the idea that there was now solid information linking Castro to the assassination, McCone ominously warned, “We cannot guarantee Alvarado’s safety.”

An internal CIA cable from the following day, November 28, states that an “investigation of Oswald’s activities” had determined that Oswald “was in New Orleans on September 19, 1963,” one day after he was allegedly in Mexico taking a payoff. It also states that the CIA “can confidently regard Alvarado as fabricator” and that Alvarado “might respond to the suggestion that he has been having delusions and needs psychiatric treatment,”  but as with the two cables and the memo from the previous day, Johnson was not informed of it.

CIA Director John McCone had a meeting with President Johnson early on November 28, but McCone did not inform the President of Alvarado’s deception. McCone did, however, send a letter to National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy, and he included a “Memorandum for the President through Mr. McGeorge Bundy” in which McCone once again vouched for Alvarado.

McCone informed Johnson in his wordy “Memorandum for the President through Mr. McGeorge Bundy” that in his meeting with Johnson that day, “Time prevented me from mentioning this morning’s developments in Mexico City.”

The memorandum started out with McCone’s “developments,” which recapped in precise detail everything about Oswald’s alleged visit to Mexico at the end of September and who Alvarado was and his story about an alleged payoff to Oswald on September 18. It also recapped how the CIA was “holding Alvarado voluntarily in a safe house” and “checking every detail of his story.” (Johnson was already aware of all these alleged “developments.”)

As with his cable to Bundy the day before, McCone harped on Alvarado’s credibility, telling Johnson that Alvarado “has advised our station in great detail of his alleged knowledge that he actually saw Oswald given $6,500 in the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City on September 18th.” McCone’s November 28 memorandum sounds like a repeat of his November 27 cable, and McCone is obviously trying to communicate that he just cannot get over how Alvarado is giving details of a conspiracy involving Castro, even if he did write that Alvarado’s “knowledge” of a Cuban payoff to Oswald was now seen as “alleged knowledge.”

The only thing that would cast a negative light on Alvarado’s story was relatively hidden in the fifth paragraph of McCone’s eight-paragraph memorandum. The entirety of the memorandum was worded in such a way as to give weight to Alvarado’s story and the possibility of Cuban involvement, and unless Johnson himself carefully read the memorandum, he would miss that McCone stated in the fifth paragraph, “We doubt the story.”

The sixth paragraph mentions Sylvia Duran’s arrest, stating, “This arrest has caused several telephone conversations between the Cuban Ambassador in Mexico and President Dorticos in which Dorticos has expressed great concern over money matters.”

McCone then blatantly lied about Dorticos’s “great concern over money matters,” stating, “It is somewhat obscure, however, whether his concern runs to a disclosure or an attempt by the Mexican authorities to bribe Sylvia Duran into making a damaging statement.”

There was nothing “obscure” about what Dorticos said. Dorticos wanted to know if Sylvia Duran told Mexican authorities that the Cubans “had offered money to the American.”  In another conversation that evening, Dorticos focused on whether “she had been threatened so that she would declare that the people at the Consulate had given money to this person, the American.”

McCone knew perfectly well that there was nothing in the conversation about “Mexican authorities” trying to “bribe Sylvia Duran” (see first post) and the only other explanation that McCone proffered for Dorticos’s “great concern over money matters” is that it is an amazing “disclosure” that Cuba paid Oswald to kill President Kennedy.

To further his objective of promoting how potentially ominous Alvarado’s story was, CIA Director John McCone wrote in the seventh paragraph, “At the moment, it seems that Alvarado’s statement cannot be verified because of the dates or for other reasons. However, the investigation will continue.”

“Seems” that it cannot be “verified” is a far cry from saying that Alvarado’s story is patently false and ridiculous and that there is no need for further investigation.

McCone’s memorandum “through Bundy” was clearly designed to keep President Johnson in the dark about Alvarado’s deception so that Johnson would fear the possibility of Cuban involvement.

McCone did, however, call President Johnson on November 30, one day after Johnson established the Warren Commission, and said, “We had a phone call from Mexico City that this fellow Alvarado that I was telling you about this morning . . . signed a statement that all the statements that he made in connection with that matter had been false . . . . Apparently there is no such truth in it at all . . . . So this looks like it probably washes out entirely.”

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Re: There Was Supposed To Be An "Oswald Was Paid" Story
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2021, 04:49:29 AM »
President Johnson was initially opposed to establishing a Presidential Commission and was highly in favor of the Texas State Inquiry into the assassination, which he made clear in a phone call to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover on November 25, 1963, the same day that Katzenbach wrote his memo to the White House promoting a Commission.

Johnson told Hoover, “Some lawyer in Justice is lobbying with the Post because that’s where the suggestion came from for this Presidential Commission, which we think would be very bad.”

Johnson promoted having the FBI work in conjunction with the Texas State Inquiry, stating, “The State Attorney General is young and able and prudent . . . . He’s going to have associated with him the most outstanding jurists in the country . . . . They can expect Waggoner Carr, the Attorney General of Texas, to make an announcement this morning to have a state inquiry, and you can offer them your full cooperation and vice versa.”

After telling J. Edgar Hoover to have the FBI fully cooperate with the Texas State Inquiry, President Johnson further disparaged “this Commission thing,” stating, “Sometimes a Commission that’s not trained hurts more than it helps.”

In a phone conversation with newspaper columnist Joseph Alsop just ten minutes after speaking to Hoover, Johnson again promoted having the FBI work with the Texas State Inquiry, stating, “They’re going to have FBI from outside Texas, but this is under Texas law . . . . We don’t send in a bunch of carpet-baggers . . . . If we have another Commission, hell, you’re gonna have people running over each other.”  (Assassinating the President was not a “federal” crime in 1963, which is why Johnson stated that the investigation was “under Texas law.”) 

Later in the conversation, Alsop told President Johnson, “I now see exactly how right you are and how wrong I was about this idea of a blue ribbon commission,” and Johnson replied, “Katzenbach suggested that and that provoked it.”

CIA Director John McCone met with President Johnson the next day, Tuesday, November 26, and a CIA Memorandum for the Record disclosed, “The President noted with some considerable contempt the fact that certain people in the Department of Justice had suggested to him on Saturday that an independent investigation of the President’s assassination should be conducted by a high level group of attorneys and jurists.”

The memorandum continued, “President Johnson rejected this idea, and then he heard that the identical plan was to be advanced in a lead editorial in the Washington Post. The President felt this was a deliberate plant and he was exceedingly critical. He personally intervened.”

CIA officer Nicholas Katzenbach, using his “official cover” as Deputy Attorney General, obviously went into action on Saturday, November 23, suggesting the idea of a Presidential Commission to Johnson and then lobbying the Post. He then harped on the idea with J. Edgar Hoover on Sunday, November 24, and pressed the issue further by writing his memo to the White House on Monday, November 25.

Katzenbach’s 3-day push for a Presidential Commission was clearly not yielding results, nor was the phony story about Oswald visiting the Soviet and Cuban Embassies in Mexico. President Johnson was apparently not moved when, on Sunday, November 24, McCone informed him of the CIA’s “plans against Cuba,” which included assassinating Fidel Castro, and then advised him to get “an early briefing on the Soviet long-range striking capability” and Soviet “air defense posture.”

It all sounded so ominous, but President Johnson had absolutely no desire for a Presidential Commission and displayed his “considerable contempt” for the idea when he met with CIA Director and KGB officer John McCone on Tuesday, November 26.

The next day, Wednesday, November 27, McCone sent his cable to National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy in which he pointed out every detail of Alvarado’s story about Oswald receiving a payoff in the Cuban Embassy with absolutely no disparaging remarks about Alvarado. McCone clearly made it sound like Alvarado’s story was an amazing development that changed everything.

On the following day, Thursday, November 28, President Johnson was apparently very much in favor of a Presidential Commission, which he made clear in a phone call to Senator James Eastland. Johnson told Eastland, “My thought is this . . . if we could have two Congressmen and two Senators . . . and maybe a Justice of the Supreme Court to take the FBI report and review it and write a report . . . and do anything they felt needed to be done . . . . This is a very explosive thing, and it could be a very dangerous thing for the country . . . . What would you think about . . . getting somebody from the Court and somebody from the House and somebody from the Senate and have a real high-level judiciary study of all the facts?”

In a call to Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield on Friday, November 29, 1963, President Johnson stated, “Secretary of State is here with me now and he’s quite concerned about it. We have given a good deal of thought, at least I have, to the suggestion of Katzenbach over at Justice to having a high-level Commission . . . to having someone from each side, House and Senate, and let them review the investigation that has been made by the Court of Inquiry and the thorough one by the FBI and let them staff it.”

Johnson then put Secretary of State Dean Rusk on the phone with Senator Mansfield, and Rusk told Mansfield of the “possible implications . . . that if the rumors were to leak out as fact, and if there were anything in this that had not been fully substantiated, it would cause a tremendous storm.”

Rusk also said, “Trying to get . . . the absolute truth . . . is very much in my mind. This has already been commented on and picked up all around the world, and if we’re not careful here, we could really blow up quite a storm.”

But the CIA documented that the “alleged plots” to kill President Kennedy “are seen everywhere as racist and rightist,”  and the Soviet Union went so far as to repeatedly implicate Goldwater in a plot to kill President Kennedy. The only thing that could possibly cause Johnson to worry that people are testifying “Khrushchev did this” and “Castro did that” is disinformation from CIA Director John McCone and the phony story about Oswald going to the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico.

McCone’s blatant disinformation is readily apparent in Johnson’s phone call to Senator Richard Russell on November 29. Johnson told Russell that Secretary of State Dean Rusk is “deeply concerned” about the claim that “they’re spreading throughout the communist world” that “Khrushchev has killed Kennedy.”

McCone and his KGB minions easily hoodwinked the entire United States government hierarchy into thinking that the United States risked a nuclear confrontation with the Soviet Union unless Lee Harvey Oswald is pegged as President Kennedy’s lone assassin.

On November 29, White House aide Walter Jenkins sent a memo to President Johnson stating that CIA officer and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, whose initial three-day push for a Presidential Commission failed, is now “preparing a description of how the Commission would function.”

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2021, 01:22:19 AM »
The push to establish the Warren Commission and a “no conspiracy” mandate began with CIA officer Nicholas Katzenbach, but the ultimate catalyst was KGB officer John McCone’s persistent behind-the-scenes pressure on President Johnson.

Recall that on November 23, McCone briefed President Johnson on “the information CIA Headquarters had received from its Mexico City station,” and on November 24, McCone informed Johnson of the CIA’s “plans against Cuba,” after which McCone met with President Johnson “in his private residence” and suggested that he get “an early briefing on the Soviet long-range striking capability” and Soviet “air defense posture.”

And on November 27, one day after observing Johnson’s “considerable contempt” for a Presidential Commission, McCone vouched for the claim that Oswald was seen taking a payoff inside the Cuban Embassy. Only then did Johnson begin to fear that Soviet and Cuban involvement “might even get us into a war; a nuclear war.”

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