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Offline Alan J. Ford

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2021, 08:32:50 PM »
Good afternoon gentlemen,

First things first, before responding to Mr. Chapman's question. Here let's take an honest look & appraisal of that pristine "evidence" planted upon the wrongly accused hours after he was involved in an intense physical altercation with more than a few officers (2nd image in the row) ---->

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lee-harvey-oswald-original-dallas-tx-1795129843

Please take a good look at the pristine condition...and think about that condition as you read the reality of that very intense physical altercation between the wrongly accused and the adrenaline pumped arresting officers in the following post...
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2021, 08:48:21 PM »
Nary a tear, bend or wrinkle upon that planted "evidence"
Show us exactly where Oswald was grabbed in a manner that would have necessarily torn, bent, or wrinkled the transfer.

Instead of conjuring up images here are some actual images taken after Oswald had informed us that the movie was over ('that's it, it's all over now) and that he wasn't resisting arrest as he... resisted arrest.

Show us where his reddish brown shirt has become 'ripped, torn, tattered, leaving it looking rather ragged'.
Seems your boy is the one looking rather ragged.


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The wrongly accused was apprehended in the following manner, according to one of the five arresting officers on the scene involved in that intense physical altercation (underlined for emphasis) ---->

In most of the accounts, Oswald strikes MacDonald in the face at this point in time; the scene inside the aisle quickly turned into a melee, with multiple officers involved in subduing Oswald. Hill got into the same row as Oswald and grabbed his left arm, Officer MacDonald held him from the right, and CT Walker and an officer Hawkins held him from the front, forcing him into his seat.

*source: jfkwitnesses.omeka.net

A rather intense physical altercation, yet the bus-transfer "evidence" planted upon the wrongly accused hours after this high volume adrenaline altercation is in pristine condition, nary a tear, bend or wrinkle upon it. Like so much of the "evidence" in this case manufactured to frame the wrongly accused this "evidence" we can easily include in the hastily contrived script "evidence" bin, because it also forgot the small but important details.

Now, Mr. Chapman, explain to the rest of us reading along here just how the bus-transfer is void of normal wear and tearing, bending, ripping and wrinkling? 







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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 08:53:46 PM »
While we await Mr. Chapman's reply, just wanted to thank top shelf researcher Mr. Davidson (Chris) once again for sharing his timely video, which clarifies the arrival time of Captain Fritz to the TSBD (talk about precision!) When it comes to timeline folks I would highly recommend anyone to consult with Mr. Davidson or at the very least lean upon his exemplary research where timelines are concerned.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 09:10:01 PM »
Just a brief note here to remind myself upon next visit to share a snippet of Mr. Jarman (James "Junior's") House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) testimony, specifically the fact that the wrongly accused was allowed to exit the building as per Mr. Lovelady's conversation w/Mr. Jarman on that fateful afternoon...

this is important because--once again--we have an individual in the same clothing w/more than a striking resemblance to the wrongly accused still in Dealey Plaza long after his scripted hasty escape, standing with an individual with a strong resemblance to the wrongly-accused's supervisor dressed in the same manner as Mr. Shelley standing there w/him.

Mr. Davidson, if you should happen along sir, any chance you may have a hint of a timeline between the timing of Mr. Jarman and Mr. Lovelady's conversation detailing "Mr. Trudy" allowing the wrongly accused to exit the building?

On my own I've got a ballpark figure relative to that timing sequence after reading Mr. Jarman's testimony, particularly how long he and the other remnants of the trio on the 5th floor remained upstairs before eventually coming all the way down.  Just wanted to be fair here, while also establishing a timeline that demonstrates that the wrongly-accused did not make a hasty escape per the Script, nor was he anywhere near 10th & Patton either.

All for now folks (back later this week, G-d willing) best to everyone to remain well, safe & healthy amid the ongoing pandemic challenges we are all facing. The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2021, 09:33:52 PM »
While we await Mr. Chapman's reply, just wanted to thank top shelf researcher Mr. Davidson (Chris) once again for sharing his timely video, which clarifies the arrival time of Captain Fritz to the TSBD (talk about precision!) When it comes to timeline folks I would highly recommend anyone to consult with Mr. Davidson or at the very least lean upon his exemplary research where timelines are concerned.
Fritz arrives at the TSBD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vrdo0lj6B6c5FRlo0MvX87kQPdd6pi5l/view?usp=sharing

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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2021, 01:28:47 AM »
The wrongly accused was apprehended in the following manner, according to one of the five arresting officers on the scene involved in that intense physical altercation (underlined for emphasis) ---->

In most of the accounts, Oswald strikes MacDonald in the face at this point in time; the scene inside the aisle quickly turned into a melee, with multiple officers involved in subduing Oswald. Hill got into the same row as Oswald and grabbed his left arm, Officer MacDonald held him from the right, and CT Walker and an officer Hawkins held him from the front, forcing him into his seat.

*source: jfkwitnesses.omeka.net

A rather intense physical altercation, yet the bus-transfer "evidence" planted upon the wrongly accused hours after this high volume adrenaline altercation is in pristine condition, nary a tear, bend or wrinkle upon it. Like so much of the "evidence" in this case manufactured to frame the wrongly accused this "evidence" we can easily include in the hastily contrived script "evidence" bin, because it also forgot the small but important details.

Now, Mr. Chapman, explain to the rest of us reading along here just how the bus-transfer is void of normal wear and tearing, bending, ripping and wrinkling?

That question is tantamount to asking how some people have walked away from a horrible car wreck with 'nary' a scratch while the other crashengers (so-to-speak) are crushed to a pulp.
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2021, 08:10:24 PM »
Fritz arrives at the TSBD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vrdo0lj6B6c5FRlo0MvX87kQPdd6pi5l/view?usp=sharing

An exemplary example of precision @ 12:58PM...no need for +/- maybe more or less dynamics in play. Thanks for sharing, Mr. Davidson, the most critical factor within any timeline examination is precision or as close to it as possible.

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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2021, 08:26:48 PM »
That question is tantamount to asking how some people have walked away from a horrible car wreck with 'nary' a scratch while the other crashengers (so-to-speak) are crushed to a pulp.

On the contrary, Mr. Chapman, five arresting officers physically mangling the shirt pockets of the wrongly accused, and later forgetting to remember to account for those actions with pristine bus-transfer "evidence" hours later has nothing to do with a collision/vehicle wreckage. Let's call it what it truly is ---->

Planted "evidence" to frame an innocent party. Planted "evidence" amid a hastily contrived script to put him on the scene at 10th & Patton. Planted "evidence" to suggest he left Dealey Plaza before he really left and by what means. The actual means, not the false-narrative...

The pristine paper bus-transfer was planted "evidence" hours after that intense physical altercation...essentially a major gaffe amid a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure. The wrongly accused was Framed.

 


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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2021, 09:22:40 PM »
Contrary to the hastily contrived script, here's a timeline of events that is supported with actual evidence and film (courtesy of Mr. Mantesana's capturing of the wrongly accused standing outside with his supervisor Bill Shelley) ---->

12:30PM Shots fired amid a cowardly ambush of a duly elected representative of the people.

12:31 -12:34 numbing shock amid a chaotic scene unfolds in Dealey Plaza

Prior to this, the wrongly accused--after watching Mr. Jarman & Mr. Norman reenter the TSBD in the rear of the building to head up to their vantage point on the 5th floor--crosses the 1st floor from the back to the front doors. He steps out into the crisp autumn air. The unthinkable unfolds...

12:34PM: According to Mr. Jarman's House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) testimony, Mr. Lovelady shares the following with him after he, Mr. Norman and Mr. Williams (Bonnie Ray) complete their descent down from the 5th floor ---->

James Jarman told the HSCA that Billy Lovelady told him that Oswald was stopped by an officer at the front entrance and vouched for by Mr. Truly. -- *Source: Mr. Murphy (Ace card researcher Sean)

So at 12:34PM the wrongly accused is still in Dealey Plaza. Over the next 4-5 minutes, the wrongly accused--standing now by the 1st floor storage room where he was spotted by employees returning into the building-- comes to the aid of Inspector Sawyer ---->

Mr. SAWYER: "We run into this man. A man who I believed worked in the building. The elevator was just to the right of the main entrance, and we went to the top floor, which was pointed out to me by this man as being the floor that we were talking about.

After coming to Inspector Sawyer's aid, the wrongly accused--upon returning to the 1st floor--came to the aid of a then rookie reporter, Pierce Allman ---->

'I thought, "I need to get to a phone and call." So I ran down the sidewalk and up the steps and into the doorway of the depository building.'

As soon as he got into the building, he realized that he needed help finding a phone in the building so he could file the report.

'There was a guy standing in the doorway, and I said, "Where's the phone?" And he said, "In there!" And I said, "Thank you," he told CBS.


Sidebar: Oswald described the reporter, Pierce Allman, to police. By now it is +/- 12:41PM. After coming to the aid of Mr. Allman and being excused by Mr. Truly--per James Jarman's HSCA testimony--the wrongly accused now steps back outside into the crisp Autumn air. This fits precisely with the interrogators recording that he told them he stood outside with his supervisor Bill Shelley for, quote, 5-10 minutes, unquote...at which time he understood from their conversation out there that--given the confusion within the building (his words, not mine) that there would be no more work that day.

5-10 minutes places the timeline at 12:46PM or 12:52PM--+/- given we are adding 5 or 10 minutes to his own words. Either way, the wrongly accused is nowhere near 10th & Patton, nor guilty of firing shots at President Kennedy either. The mystery that remains is how? did the wrongly accused actually leave Dealey Plaza and precisely when? and for what? reason(s)...

Brief recap: No other TSBD employee's post-assassination whereabouts account for the male employee who comes to Inspector Sawyer's aid on the first floor near the small storage room & passenger elevator but one (the wrongly accused).

The wrongly accused then comes to the aid of Mr. Allman, who is looking for a phone. The wrongly accused actually shares this with his interrogators. He then steps back out into the crisp Autumn air, where he spends, quote, 5-10 minutes with Bill Shelley. He actually shares this with his interrogators as well. The cincher is the film recorded by private citizen Charles Ernest Mentesana, who actually captures the wrongly accused standing outside with his supervisor. 







 

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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2021, 09:34:38 PM »
The wrongly accused was Framed. The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

Best wishes for all to remain well, safe & healthy amid the ongoing pandemic challenges we are all facing. Back next week G-d willing to share some footage of the wrongly accused so we may compare his mannerisms, stance, etc to the gentleman wearing the clothes he was later apprehended in at the Texas Theatre.

 

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