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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2021, 10:21:13 PM »
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The "bounty" allegation was a legitimate story to report on but how they reported it was a complete failure. There were no qualifiers, no questioning of the sourcing; it was just reported as a fact. Too many outlets not only uncritically accepted and repeated the claim they then used it to go after Trump (see Rachel Maddow's "reporting" on this for an extreme example).

This was classic Trump "resistance" journalism where all of the necessary standards to verify a story were tossed aside because they wanted to get Trump. It's remarkably similar to the Russian collusion story where elements of the FBI and Justice Department tossed out the safeguards because they believed the worst about him and wanted him damaged.

I wanted to "get" Trump too - he was terrible for the country - but this is not how you "get" him. The worst part of this is that nobody will be held accountable.


Same here. I didn’t vote for Trump. I didn’t agree with his political views or view him as fit to be POTUS. But even I was shocked by the determination of the Media to “Get Trump”.

What do you think of the politicization of the Intelligence community during Trump’s Presidency?

What I’m referring to was the unusually frequent leaks from the FBI, CIA, and NSC throughout his Presidency.

It almost seemed to me like there was an anti-Trump mutiny within the Intelligence Community.

For example, the “Whistleblower” that led to Trump’s first Impeachment was a CIA employee who was a friend of some members of Trump’s NSC. It seemed like an orchestrated attempt by some within the IC to get Trump removed.

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2021, 11:14:44 PM »
Just another in the laundry list of fake stories.  The media went crazy about this one and denounced Trump as a traitor under the thumb of Putin.  But crickets now.   There was also the Wash Post "find the fraud" quote that turned out to be another totally false story.  And the Capitol Police officer killed by a fire extinguisher.  False.  The only person murdered on Jan. 6 was an unarmed protestor.  No rush to name the police officer involved in that shooting.  It is not known even today.  And imagine the outcry if Mitch McConnell and Trump had suggested adding four justices to the Supreme Court!  LOL   The left wingers would have been crying from the roof tops that it was the end times.  A dictatorship.

More spin and b.s. from Richard.

Each time Criminal Donald is hit with a new criminal scandal right wingers like Richard cry "its fake news" hoping it will go away.

Trump's bounty gate is being investigated and his maga thugs had no business breaking inside the Capitol.

Republicans already illegally packed the Supreme Court with unqualified right wingers that shouldn't even be on the court. Obama had Garland illegally blocked by "The Turtle"  Moscow Mitch McConnell and rammed through right wing Barrett during an election.

Richard and his cronies cried "Russian collusion was a hoax". Manafort gave Russians their campaign data. Just another example of more collusion.   

Biden Administration Says Russian Intelligence Obtained Trump Campaign Data: A Treasury Department document shed more light on links between the campaign and Russian spies

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/us/politics/russian-intelligence-trump-campaign.html

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2021, 02:47:35 AM »
More spin and b.s. from Richard.

Each time Criminal Donald is hit with a new criminal scandal right wingers like Richard cry "its fake news" hoping it will go away.

Trump's bounty gate is being investigated and his maga thugs had no business breaking inside the Capitol.

Republicans already illegally packed the Supreme Court with unqualified right wingers that shouldn't even be on the court. Obama had Garland illegally blocked by "The Turtle"  Moscow Mitch McConnell and rammed through right wing Barrett during an election.

Richard and his cronies cried "Russian collusion was a hoax". Manafort gave Russians their campaign data. Just another example of more collusion.   

Biden Administration Says Russian Intelligence Obtained Trump Campaign Data: A Treasury Department document shed more light on links between the campaign and Russian spies

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/us/politics/russian-intelligence-trump-campaign.html


It's probable that Russia was spying on Trump's campaign (and Hillary's).

It's proven that the FBI spied on Trump's campaign:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/politics/fbi-government-investigator-trump.html
https://apnews.com/article/603033fbcdbf1dd7b39fa419f3cbfd80


Konstantin Kilimnik may have been a Russian spy but there's no proof that he worked with anyone in Trump's campaign other than Paul Manafort, who was fired by Trump during the summer of 2016. 

If Kilimnik was the link between Trump's campaign and Russian intelligence, who on Trump's campaign communicated with him after Manafort was fired?

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2021, 11:47:25 PM »
Just another in the laundry list of fake stories.  The media went crazy about this one and denounced Trump as a traitor under the thumb of Putin.  But crickets now.   There was also the Wash Post "find the fraud" quote that turned out to be another totally false story.  And the Capitol Police officer killed by a fire extinguisher.  False.  The only person murdered on Jan. 6 was an unarmed protestor.  No rush to name the police officer involved in that shooting.  It is not known even today.  And imagine the outcry if Mitch McConnell and Trump had suggested adding four justices to the Supreme Court!  LOL   The left wingers would have been crying from the roof tops that it was the end times.  A dictatorship.

Sit back and enjoy Richard, the fun is just getting started. Criminal Donald and his criminal henchmen are all going down.  Richard is using projection and gaslighting us again. The right wing media is the fake news.

NY Post reporter who penned fake article on Kamala Harris’ book says she was ‘ordered’ to write it
https://www.rawstory.com/ny-post-reporter-who-penned-fake-article-on-kamala-harris-book-says-she-was-ordered-to-write-it/

Rudy Giuliani's home, office searched by federal agents as part of lobbying probe, sources tell ABC News
Sources say Giuliani's electronic devices were confiscated by authorities

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rudy-giulianis-home-office-searched-federal-agents-part/story?id=77368884

FBI seizes electronics from Rudy Giuliani's Manhattan apartment
https://abc7ny.com/politics/fbi-seizes-electronics-from-rudy-giulianis-nyc-apartment/10556451/

A grand jury has been impaneled in the federal investigation into Rudy Giuliani
https://www.businessinsider.com/grand-jury-has-been-impaneled-the-federal-investigation-into-giuliani-2021-4

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 06:17:42 PM »
Incredible but another false story this week reported by the Wash Post, NY Times, and others about Rudy being given a formal warning that he was a target of a Russian disinformation investigation.  Turns out to be completely false.

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2021, 04:57:04 PM »
Incredible but another false story this week reported by the Wash Post, NY Times, and others about Rudy being given a formal warning that he was a target of a Russian disinformation investigation.  Turns out to be completely false.
I've expressed my dislike - to put it mildly - with Trump and his unbelievably unethical cronies but the corruption by the major news media over these years is remarkable. What kind of sourcing do they do on these stories now? Do they just accept a leak and then run with it? What is their confirmation? Calling the same source up and asking them again?

There used to be a rule by reporters that if an unnamed source lied to them that the promise of anonymity ended, that they would expose that source. Well, clearly there have been a series of falsehoods leaked by people in the DOJ and FBI and CIA over these years but the media won't expose them. Or hasn't. The media should be furious with being used like this. But they don't seem to be.

The leftwing writer Glenn Greenwald wrote a longish piece on this issue. It's here: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/corporate-news-outlets-again-confirm

He also Tweeted this:  "In preparation for this writing this article, I spent the day notifying close to a dozen of these media luminaries that their false tweet [about Giuliani being warned] remained up and asked whether they intend to take it down and/or correct the false tweet. Only one - NBC White House Correspondent Geoff Bennett - responded. He did so by blocking me on Twitter, while leaving the false tweet up, uncorrected."

Opposing Trump shouldn't justify abandoning all and every journalistic standard. Apparently it does. Thus the corruption. If this can be done for Trump, why not others? What are the rules now?

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2021, 02:07:53 PM »
I've expressed my dislike - to put it mildly - with Trump and his unbelievably unethical cronies but the corruption by the major news media over these years is remarkable. What kind of sourcing do they do on these stories now? Do they just accept a leak and then run with it? What is their confirmation? Calling the same source up and asking them again?

There used to be a rule by reporters that if an unnamed source lied to them that the promise of anonymity ended, that they would expose that source. Well, clearly there have been a series of falsehoods leaked by people in the DOJ and FBI and CIA over these years but the media won't expose them. Or hasn't. The media should be furious with being used like this. But they don't seem to be.

The leftwing writer Glenn Greenwald wrote a longish piece on this issue. It's here: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/corporate-news-outlets-again-confirm

He also Tweeted this:  "In preparation for this writing this article, I spent the day notifying close to a dozen of these media luminaries that their false tweet [about Giuliani being warned] remained up and asked whether they intend to take it down and/or correct the false tweet. Only one - NBC White House Correspondent Geoff Bennett - responded. He did so by blocking me on Twitter, while leaving the false tweet up, uncorrected."

Opposing Trump shouldn't justify abandoning all and every journalistic standard. Apparently it does. Thus the corruption. If this can be done for Trump, why not others? What are the rules now?

I don't know when this trend began but it does seem like the Press has for the most part become stenographers for the National Security Community.

And the worst part is that there are few, if any, consequences for getting stories they inaccurately report on wrong...

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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
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Re: Trump-Russia: Bountygate
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2021, 01:36:39 AM »
Sit back and enjoy Richard, the fun is just getting started. Criminal Donald and his criminal henchmen are all going down.  Richard is using projection and gaslighting us again. The right wing media is the fake news.

NY Post reporter who penned fake article on Kamala Harris’ book says she was ‘ordered’ to write it
https://www.rawstory.com/ny-post-reporter-who-penned-fake-article-on-kamala-harris-book-says-she-was-ordered-to-write-it/

Rudy Giuliani's home, office searched by federal agents as part of lobbying probe, sources tell ABC News
Sources say Giuliani's electronic devices were confiscated by authorities

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rudy-giulianis-home-office-searched-federal-agents-part/story?id=77368884

FBI seizes electronics from Rudy Giuliani's Manhattan apartment
https://abc7ny.com/politics/fbi-seizes-electronics-from-rudy-giulianis-nyc-apartment/10556451/

A grand jury has been impaneled in the federal investigation into Rudy Giuliani
https://www.businessinsider.com/grand-jury-has-been-impaneled-the-federal-investigation-into-giuliani-2021-4

It has nothing to do with me.  Take it up with the media that keeps retracting fake news stories.  And note that the FEC quietly closed the investigation into an alleged campaign finance violation involving Stormy Daniels.  The woman who tried to blackmail Trump and should have gone to jail.  A story that CNN breathlessly ran for months with her now convicted attorney as the star on TV every night.