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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #512 on: May 06, 2021, 12:31:01 PM »
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Marrion Baker.

The officer who testified to seeing Oswald in the second floor lunchroom.

Yes, Glad you agree, Dan. Changed his story somewhat, after he was told the "official" story.

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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #513 on: May 06, 2021, 06:37:53 PM »
If true, his first day affidavit was already tailored....
Interesting Otto. By whom?

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #514 on: May 07, 2021, 12:35:01 PM »
If I had to come up with a name it would be Fritz.

It's worth looking at Marvin Johnson who took Baker's affidavit. This is Johnson's undated report:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337554/m1/1/?q=marvin%20johnson

It's basically Savage's story but the encounter is taken to the 4th floor; more like an early crude attempt to get Oswald closer to the 6th floor. Most interesting is the last paragraph which forces the question: why didn't Baker mention any of this in his affidavit?

On the day of the assassination Truly gives a statement to the FBI. In he he recounts, precisely, what is known as the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - second floor, Baker enters lunchroom gun drawn, Oswald is alone in there, Baker asks if he's an employee, Truly confirms he is, both men carry hit the stairs.
Who is providing Truly's narrative?
Why is it different from Baker's?
When did Fritz have time to give Baker his "tailored" account?
Why doesn't Baker include Oswald in his affidavit if he is sat right there at the time he is giving the affidavit?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #515 on: May 07, 2021, 02:34:31 PM »
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Gee, I wonder why witnesses don't include their entire WC testimony in their affidavits.

DUH


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #516 on: May 07, 2021, 06:03:26 PM »
On more than one occasion Alyea refers to dry, old chicken bones.
It was a partially eaten piece of chicken discovered on the SN, not old chicken bones.
Hill (not someone I'm happy defending) doesn't say there were two sets of chicken bones. He says there was one set on the 6th but that there may well have been others on the 5th but he had no idea whether there were or not.

"We had two sets of chicken bones in the School Book Depository" - Sgt. Hill

He's been caught in a lie and his attempt to bluff his way out elicits justified laughter from the audience!

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #517 on: May 07, 2021, 06:04:32 PM »
You can see why there is sometimes witness confusion about the floor numbers in the TSBD by looking at pictures of the building from that day.  From the Elm St. perspective the "first" floor appears to be just a lobby or entry way due to the lattice fence on the outside that covers the windows.  Count up five floors and the "sixth" floor becomes the fifth floor.

Yes------------and I believe that's exactly what happened here

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #518 on: May 07, 2021, 06:06:31 PM »
On the day of the assassination Truly gives a statement to the FBI. In he he recounts, precisely, what is known as the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter - second floor, Baker enters lunchroom gun drawn, Oswald is alone in there, Baker asks if he's an employee, Truly confirms he is, both men carry hit the stairs.
Who is providing Truly's narrative?
Why is it different from Baker's?
When did Fritz have time to give Baker his "tailored" account?
Why doesn't Baker include Oswald in his affidavit if he is sat right there at the time he is giving the affidavit?

Because his affidavit is not talking about Mr Oswald. Mr Truly vouched for a non-employee caught by the stairway several floors up

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #519 on: May 07, 2021, 11:34:25 PM »