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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2021, 10:45:54 PM »
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Yes, Oswald was totally innocent. The reason he left work shortly after the assassination and went to him rooming house was because he wanted to retrieve his revolver and hunt down the dirty bastards who killed JFK.

Like there's any evidence that he "retrieved his revolver" at the rooming house.  WC apologists just love to state assumptions as facts.

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He even carried extra bullets in case there were more than a couple of assassins.

You mean those "extra bullets" that were "found" in his pocket hours after he was arrested?

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2021, 10:47:40 PM »
Nothing "evolved" if by that you mean there was a frame up of Oswald.  A few details may have been left out or omitted from the initial statements as expected.  Over time there was a more in depth investigation.  When all was said and done Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor.  Fired bullet casings from his rifle were found by the SN window.  He fled the scene and murdered a police officer.   It's a stone cold case against Oswald.  To suggest that a latch on a door to the roof precludes Baker and Truly from going there after the assassination is somehow evidence of a conspiracy is laughable.

Speaking of laughable...

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL
"fled the scene". LOL
"murdered a police officer". LOL

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2021, 10:51:09 PM »
Fantastic rebuttal and use of evidence.

Hitchens' razor:  "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence".

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2021, 03:12:13 AM »
Who claimed such a thing, Mr Smith?

So you underline the fact that someone claimed the door to the roof was locked and claimed Baker and Truly were liars but you were not suggesting they lied about going to the roof?  This gets better and better.  Maybe explain your point then.  Why so cryptic?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2021, 06:26:31 PM »
Fantastic rebuttal and use of evidence.  Are you still claiming that a latch kept Baker and Truly from going to the roof and they lied about that for some inexplicable reason?
Why are you constantly bringing up up arguments that I didn't even make? Read the posts once in a while.  I said nothing at all about the roof. Baker said they went up to the roof. So that proves that Oswald did it?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2021, 07:48:16 PM »
So you underline the fact that someone claimed the door to the roof was locked and claimed Baker and Truly were liars but you were not suggesting they lied about going to the roof?  This gets better and better.  Maybe explain your point then.  Why so cryptic?

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It wasn't my point, and I underlined nothing.

Now, how about you re-read the opening post on this thread a little more attentively-----------the poster is NOT claiming that Officer Baker and Mr Truly couldn't have opened the latch, they are simply asking how it could be that Officer Wiseman saw the latch on when he went upstairs.

It all comes down to a timing question: how soon after the shooting did Officer Wiseman go up there?

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2021, 12:51:48 AM »
He didn't flee the scene, he just left as did (at least) 18 or 19 others.

Oswald's rifle lol. Explain why his fingerprints weren't on the shell casings, nor on the clip, nor on the bolt or trigger. Explain how Oswald or anyone else could have fired an accurate shot using the telescopic sight which was broken, needed shims to stabilize (not found or present when the rifle was discovered)  and after the rifle was re-assembled using a dime.

Explain why the rifle supposedly ordered by Oswald is a different one than the rifle found on the sixth floor and now located at the NARA.

The bullets recovered from officer Tippit's body couldn't be matched to the barrel of "Oswald's revolver."

There is no "stone cold case" against Oswald. Not a single prosecutorial fact is undisputed, and with good reason. You probably think a man can not be framed for murder or any other crime. Think again bubba, it happens.
Who were these "18 or 19 others" who left the building right after the shooting?

I've never heard about a single person who was in the building who left shortly after the shooting. And certainly not "18 or 19".

The only person that I am aware of who was in the building at the time of the shooting and left afterwards - without permission from the police hours later - was Oswald.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2021, 04:20:18 AM »
Who were these "18 or 19 others" who left the building right after the shooting? I've never heard about a single person who was in the building who left shortly after the shooting. And certainly not "18 or 19". The only person that I am aware of who was in the building at the time of the shooting and left afterwards - without permission from the police hours later - was Oswald.

  The TSBD was not totally sealed off until maybe 5 or 10 minutes before 1....even though they lied and said it was 10 minutes after the shots [ridiculous]
 Wesley Frazier left TSBD between 1:00 and 2:00 pm, about the same time Truly claims he made his roll call [which was another lie]
Charles Givens returned to TSBD after the shooting but was refused entry by a Dallas policeman. An APB was put out for him [a big question was why?] and he was later interviewed at City Hall by Captain Will Fritz. Truly was aware of Given’s absence, having seen him prior to the assassination. Truly also said he saw Oswald in his encounter with him in the second-floor lunchroom. Using that logic, Oswald should have been exonerated.
There were various others that either left before the shots or were outside..and couldn't get back in and then went home.