Et tu, Bonnie?


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Offline Joffrey van de Wiel

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2021, 03:17:09 AM »
Nothing "evolved" if by that you mean there was a frame up of Oswald.  A few details may have been left out or omitted from the initial statements as expected.  Over time there was a more in depth investigation.  When all was said and done Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor.  Fired bullet casings from his rifle were found by the SN window.  He fled the scene and murdered a police officer.   It's a stone cold case against Oswald.  To suggest that a latch on a door to the roof precludes Baker and Truly from going there after the assassination is somehow evidence of a conspiracy is laughable.

He didn't flee the scene, he just left as did (at least) 18 or 19 others.

Oswald's rifle lol. Explain why his fingerprints weren't on the shell casings, nor on the clip, nor on the bolt or trigger. Explain how Oswald or anyone else could have fired an accurate shot using the telescopic sight which was broken, needed shims to stabilize (not found or present when the rifle was discovered)  and after the rifle was re-assembled using a dime.

Explain why the rifle supposedly ordered by Oswald is a different one than the rifle found on the sixth floor and now located at the NARA.

The bullets recovered from officer Tippit's body couldn't be matched to the barrel of "Oswald's revolver."

There is no "stone cold case" against Oswald. Not a single prosecutorial fact is undisputed, and with good reason. You probably think a man can not be framed for murder or any other crime. Think again bubba, it happens.
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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2021, 05:35:37 AM »
It's a stone cold case against Oswald.
Exactly how cold is that stone anyway?
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  A few details may have been left out or omitted from the initial statements as expected.
Like how in hell could it have happened that way?
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Over time there was a more in depth investigation.
Yeah...a couple of microns deep at least.
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When all was said and done Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor.
If all was said and done...why are we here? 
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Oswald's rifle
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2021, 12:45:19 PM »
Oswald left at 12:33 p.m. according to the Report, unobserved by anyone. He became a suspect because he was supposedly the only one who left the TSBD without checking with law enforcement first. In reality, about 18 individuals did the same without becoming suspects.

Deputy Roger Craig saw Oswald get into a car with a Black or Latin at the wheel and drive off. What's the third version Martin?

Buell Frazier claimed, some years ago, that he was still standing on the stairs of the TSBD when, about 15 minutes after the shooting, he saw Oswald coming down North Houston street and going down Elm. He figured Oswald had left the building at the back and was going to get lunch.

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2021, 02:50:05 PM »
Exactly how cold is that stone anyway? Like how in hell could it have happened that way?Yeah...a couple of microns deep at least. If all was said and done...why are we here?    :D

So you are running away from the claim that a latch on the roof door somehow precluded Baker and Truly from going up there.  Got it.   What it would have precluded is any assassin on the roof from coming down.  You have actually bolstered the WC Report.  Congrats. 

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2021, 03:04:22 PM »
He didn't flee the scene, he just left as did (at least) 18 or 19 others.

Oswald's rifle lol. Explain why his fingerprints weren't on the shell casings, nor on the clip, nor on the bolt or trigger. Explain how Oswald or anyone else could have fired an accurate shot using the telescopic sight which was broken, needed shims to stabilize (not found or present when the rifle was discovered)  and after the rifle was re-assembled using a dime.

Explain why the rifle supposedly ordered by Oswald is a different one than the rifle found on the sixth floor and now located at the NARA.

The bullets recovered from officer Tippit's body couldn't be matched to the barrel of "Oswald's revolver."

There is no "stone cold case" against Oswald. Not a single prosecutorial fact is undisputed, and with good reason. You probably think a man can not be framed for murder or any other crime. Think again bubba, it happens.

At least 18 or 19 TSBD employees immediately fled the scene after the assassination and were unaccounted for?  Do tell.   Oswald's prints were on the rifle and SN boxes.  And those are dismissed as the product of fakery by CTers.  So if more prints had been found it would have no impact on you.  But if you believe all the evidence was planted as part of a frame up of Oswald, why wouldn't the DPD and FBI just say they found more prints?  It was Oswald's rifle beyond any doubt.  The fired bullet casings came from that rifle.  Witnesses confirm that they saw a rifle in that window at the moment of the assassination.  Oswald lied about owning the rifle and did not explain how it came to be there.  Multiple eyewitnesses confirm he was at the Tippit murder scene with a pistol in his hand.   He was arrested with a pistol and had the same two brands of ammo that were used to murder Tippit.   It is hard to imagine how there could even be anymore evidence to link Oswald to these murders. 

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2021, 07:29:00 PM »
   You have actually bolstered the WC Report.  Congrats.
Did not.
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Oswald's prints were on the rifle.
Were not.

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2021, 07:33:08 PM »
Did not. Were not.

Fantastic rebuttal and use of evidence.  Are you still claiming that a latch kept Baker and Truly from going to the roof and they lied about that for some inexplicable reason?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2021, 08:52:38 PM »
So you are running away from the claim that a latch on the roof door somehow precluded Baker and Truly from going up there.

Who claimed such a thing, Mr Smith?

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