Oswald's shot-1 ricochet was at Z113 or Z105.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

I found the DeRonja article re the Oswald Shot-1 ricochet off the signal arm.
But it doesn't have the info about the copper jacket breaking into 2 pieces.
I think that there is a Haag article or Haag youtube footage that shows the 2 pieces.
If anyone knows of this, or finds it, please let me know. Thanx.

https://www.acsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DeRonja-Holland-2.pdf
A Technical Investigation Pertaining to the First Shot Fired in the JFK Assassination
Article Frank S. DeRonja1 , MS Engr & Max Holland2 1 Forensic Metallurgy Associates, Springfield, VA, USA

21. Haag LC. The Missing Bullet in the JFK Assassination. AFTE J. 2015;47(2):75.
23. Haag MG, Haag LC. Shooting Incident Reconstruction. San Diego (CA): Academic Press; 2011, 238.

[Jerry Organ]

Moore heard three shots but only saw the President during the first shot; Prior to reaching the Thornton sign, where does Kennedy "slump"?

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Moore saw that shot-1 was when JFK was just past the signals, not when near the Thornton sign (the FBI wrongly mentioned the Thornton sign).
Hence in fact Moore confirms that Oswald's shot-1 was at say Z113 (or even earlier as per Holland).
Anyhow, JFK duznt slump here, but he raises his right hand/arm, koz small lead fragments ricochet into the right-back of his head (seen in xrays).

Hence, if the FBI were wrong re the Thornton sign, then we might add that it was the FBI that wrongly mentioned that Moore couldnt see JFK for the next 2 shots.
Or, Moore was wrong (if the FBI report aint wrong).

I doubt that Moore could see throo the 10 agents -- 5 sitting low, 1 sitting hi (Hickey), and 4 standing -- in Queen Mary!
Plus could he see throo the raised sun shades on the windshield.
Plus there is a serious crest, where Elm St starts to fall (5.8%), and hence Moore (standing say 60 ft east of the crest) has an effective eye height of only say 3 ft 0 in instead of 5 ft 6 in.
Hence Moore probly couldnt see JFK at Oswald's shot-2, at Z218, nor when JFK very slightly slumps after Z218.

Just before Z313 the gawkers standing on the south west corner of Elm & Houston run out onto Elm St (& Tina Towner runs out too), and hence they block Moore's view of JFK at the last shot(s) at Z313 & just before Z313, ie Hickey's shots-1234 & probly a shot-5, & possibly a shot-6.
And re JFK slumping, this would have been well after Z313, eg Z333.

No, Moore never saw JFK slump.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

The 3 stars show approx JFK at Z113 (shot-1) & Z218 (shot-2) & Z313 (Hickey shot-4 or 5 or 6).
There is a 5.8% grade in Elm St, with crest near Houston St.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Here is view from eye-level (say 5 ft 6 in) standing on the footpath on the north-east corner of Elm & Houston.
Note that the eye/camera here is in effect below the level of the road when JFK is at Z218 and Z313, ie a level of minus say 1 ft 0 in.
Which suggests that Moore's eye-level when standing near the south-east corner was say 3 ft 0 in.
I dont know how/why Google took this at 5 ft 6 in, they usually have their car/camera at about 7 ft 0 in (just guessing).
I think Ethan Ferguson took this 360 deg panorama.

The young lady is crossing exactly where Oswald crossed, after he had gone a little way up Houston, before he did a U-turn & crossed Houston (on a slight angle), & then crossed Elm, except that he was holding a bottle of Coca Cola.

[Jerry Organ]

Moore saw that shot-1 was when JFK was just past the signals, not when near the Thornton sign (the FBI wrongly mentioned the Thornton sign).

You're too lazy to type it out, but you're apparently referring to Moore's comment decades-on in Larry Snead's 1998 book "No More Silence":

    "There was a highway marker sign right in front of the Book Depository,
     and as the president got around to that, the first shot was fired ..."

Not a stretch to characterize the Thornton as being in front of the Depository.

Hence in fact Moore confirms that Oswald's shot-1 was at say Z113 (or even earlier as per Holland).
Anyhow, JFK duznt slump here, but he raises his right hand/arm, koz small lead fragments ricochet into the right-back of his head (seen in xrays).

In the Z130s, Kennedy raises his right hand to brush his hair. The head nod in the Z170s was in conjunction with Kennedy waving at the crowd, but Moore couldn't see the hand, only the head nod. JFK "slumped".

Hence, if the FBI were wrong re the Thornton sign, then we might add that it was the FBI that wrongly mentioned that Moore couldnt see JFK for the next 2 shots.
Or, Moore was wrong (if the FBI report aint wrong).

"Wrong" as in relative to your Theory.

I doubt that Moore could see throo the 10 agents -- 5 sitting low, 1 sitting hi (Hickey), and 4 standing -- in Queen Mary!
Plus could he see throo the raised sun shades on the windshield.
Plus there is a serious crest, where Elm St starts to fall (5.8%), and hence Moore (standing say 60 ft east of the crest) has an effective eye height of only say 3 ft 0 in instead of 5 ft 6 in.
Hence Moore probly couldnt see JFK at Oswald's shot-2, at Z218, nor when JFK very slightly slumps after Z218.

After the first shot (in the Z150s) and head nod (Z170s), Moore lost sight of Kennedy until he caught sight of Hill on the trunk.

Just before Z313 the gawkers standing on the south west corner of Elm & Houston run out onto Elm St (& Tina Towner runs out too), and hence they block Moore's view of JFK at the last shot(s) at Z313 & just before Z313, ie Hickey's shots-1234 & probly a shot-5, & possibly a shot-6.
And re JFK slumping, this would have been well after Z313, eg Z333.

No, Moore never saw JFK slump.

He (or the FBI) were just making it up.    Only the "highway marker sign" comment warrants a cherry-pick. 

[Andrew Mason]

Moore saw that shot-1 was when JFK was just past the signals, not when near the Thornton sign (the FBI wrongly mentioned the Thornton sign).
Hence in fact Moore confirms that Oswald's shot-1 was at say Z113 (or even earlier as per Holland).

But it is not just Moore who put the first shot when JFK was opposite the Thornton Freeway sign, which was about z200. Linda Willis put the first shot when JFK was on her sight line to the Stemmons sign, which puts it between z195 and z205. The occupants of the VP car said the car had just finished the turn onto Elm.  It is still turning when last seen at z180. Betzner said his z186 photo was before the first shot - he was turning the film to take another when it sounded. Occupants of the VP follow up car said they were just finishing the turn and about parallel to the TSBD when the first shot sounded.  It is still turning and pointing toward the TSBD when last seen at z191.  Other witnesses along Elm described where JFK was in relation to where they were standing when the first shot sounded.  They all converge around z200. Not a single witness said JFK continued to smile and wave after the first shot.  Over 20 said he reacted immediately.

But, perhaps more to the point, there are too many witnesses who said that the last two shots were close together - in rapid succession - e.g Sheriff Roger Craig: "Not more than 2 seconds. It was—they were real rapid." 6H263.  Unless you think that 5 seconds is "real rapid" or "rapid succession" or "just about as fast as you could expect a man to operate a bolt action rifle" (Hudson, 26Nov63 WCD CD5 HSCA Ex. RG233), that does not fit a first shot miss.

[Jerry Organ]

But it is not just Moore who put the first shot when JFK was opposite the Thornton Freeway sign, which was about z200.

Moore said the car was on this side of the Thornton sign, meaning it hadn't reached it. You really think Moore could calculate the President was exactly perpendicular to the Thornton sign when Moore was almost directly behind the President?

Linda Willis put the first shot when JFK was on her sight line to the Stemmons sign, which puts it between z195 and z205.

The Willis girl apparently got her signs mixed up. Perhaps influenced by her father's slide that featured the Stemmons sign. Her father, BTW, said the first shot occurred between his slide at Z133 and Z202. It made, he said, Mrs. Kennedy look from his side of the street to the opposite side.

(Crop)

"When I took slide No. 4, the President was smiling and waving and looking      straight ahead, and Mrs. Kennedy was likewise smiling and facing more to      my side of the street. When the first shot was fired, her head seemed to      just snap in that direction"           — Warren Commission testimony       "and then in front of the Depository Building on Elm Street I cocked      my camera for another picture and this loud shot went off and the first      reaction was that could it be a crank or a firecracker but it was so loud      and of such a sound it had to be rifle so I became alarmed."           — Clay Shaw Trial testimony Yes Willis claimed the shot caused him to snap the shutter, but he can't have it that way AND claim that Mrs. Kennedy reacted during the interval.