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Offline Allan Fritzke

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One of the busiest "bodies" in the scene surrounding the assassination of JFK at the time of the critical headshot was by a man they named Malcom Summers.  He roles into the grass while the rest remain motionless.   His story never surfaces until after the Zapruder film has been released for public view.  He had a perfect shooting position.   No one examined the car except SS agents and it was quickly removed and within a month, a cover story for replaced windshield was written.   Some maintained there was a shot through the windshield - not just a crack from a stray bullet or gravel kicked up by a wheel!

https://earthnewspaper.com/index.php/2021/01/29/bullet-hole-in-jfk-limousine-windshield-from-south-knoll-gunman-948/







There has never been any footage showing this man at the front corner of the car where he obviously was before he moved and sat in the grass.
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Online Dan O'meara

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You can see from the frames you posted he doesn't have a gun in his hand.

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FBI agent Robert Frazier said he analyzed the crack and determined that it was caused by a strike from the inside. He testified in the Clay Shaw trial that:

"The windshield was partially broken in a star-shaped fashion, that is there was a crack in the windshield. I made a specific examination of it to determine what caused the crack. I found on the inside surface of the windshield a deposit of lead which had been forced against the glass and had splattered and as a result determined the glass had been broken by the impact of a projectile striking the inside surface of the glass and fracturing the windshield in the outer layer."

And that: "As a result of having examined hundreds of pieces of glass which have been broken in a known fashion, that is by a blow delivered in a known way, it is possible by studying the radial cracks or fractures emanating from the point of force to determine the side of the glass on which the force was applied.

Using the stress lines left on this glass at the time the glass was broken and caused by the object which broke the glass it is possible to determine the direction the force was applied. This examination of the cracks showed that the pressure had been applied on the inside surface."

Testimony here: https://jfk-online.com/rfraziershaw.html


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Offline Allan Fritzke

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FBI agent Robert Frazier said he analyzed the crack and determined that it was caused by a strike from the inside. He testified in the Clay Shaw trial that:

"The windshield was partially broken in a star-shaped fashion, that is there was a crack in the windshield. I made a specific examination of it to determine what caused the crack. I found on the inside surface of the windshield a deposit of lead which had been forced against the glass and had splattered and as a result determined the glass had been broken by the impact of a projectile striking the inside surface of the glass and fracturing the windshield in the outer layer."

And that: "As a result of having examined hundreds of pieces of glass which have been broken in a known fashion, that is by a blow delivered in a known way, it is possible by studying the radial cracks or fractures emanating from the point of force to determine the side of the glass on which the force was applied.

Using the stress lines left on this glass at the time the glass was broken and caused by the object which broke the glass it is possible to determine the direction the force was applied. This examination of the cracks showed that the pressure had been applied on the inside surface."

Testimony here: https://jfk-online.com/rfraziershaw.html

That statement begs you to question which of the 3 bullets fragmented, splattered and left a deposit on the windshield?   The car was quickly transported out of the crime scene and was kept out of sight as much as possible.    There are also those at the hospital whose statements conflict with this conclusion and considered unimportant observations or had counter opinions presented.
 
At the very least, it appears that there are individual statements that are in conflict with him.   Was this an expert individual FBI investigator opinion/conclusion  that this was a lead deposit from a bullet?  Did anyone forensically analyze the windshield  and determine the composition of this bullet which splattered and was it compared to the rest of the bullets found including the dented chrome?  That is a pretty pointed description when he says the lead splattered as if was mercury composition! 

I question whether or not he had issued a statement to cover the crack story and end the investigation.   Perhaps to squelch the Hospital rumours of what they thought they saw of the car before it was whisked away and so only then a statement issued to counter it.   There is also a similar parallel of reported head wounds at the hospital that was countered with evidence presented at a later date by controlled autopsy to possibly aid the lone gunman theory and give a directed conclusion contrary to what operating room doctors found and stated.  Unfortunately, the FBI and CIA are organizations which appear to run covert operations and covering up of their actions is a normal part of their business and routine.   In my opinion, if directives are given from the top, the information can be aligned accordingly and truth is not as important as coming up with a consistent believable story -rabbit trails are roadblocked on an as needed basis by issuing new statements.


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One of the busiest "bodies" in the scene surrounding the assassination of JFK at the time of the critical headshot was by a man they named Malcom Summers.  He roles into the grass while the rest remain motionless.   His story never surfaces until after the Zapruder film has been released for public view.  He had a perfect shooting position.   No one examined the car except SS agents and it was quickly removed and within a month, a cover story for replaced windshield was written.   Some maintained there was a shot through the windshield - not just a crack from a stray bullet or gravel kicked up by a wheel!

https://earthnewspaper.com/index.php/2021/01/29/bullet-hole-in-jfk-limousine-windshield-from-south-knoll-gunman-948/







There has never been any footage showing this man at the front corner of the car where he obviously was before he moved and sat in the grass.

Yes. A perfect shooting position for Malcom Summers. Possibly through Ike Altgens.

And, of course, Summers had no concern about the windshield deflecting the bullet. Even a minor deflection of five degrees can turn a perfectly aimed shot into a clean miss of the head.

Also, while for some “musicians”, the air guitar is the instrument of choice, for Summers his weapon of choice appears to have been the air rifle.

But it must be admitted that the evidence against Summers is as good, possibly better, than the evidence that the election was stolen from Trump, as evident from the dossier on Dominion Voting Systems, which no one wants to take credit now for writing.
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Offline Allan Fritzke

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Yes. A perfect shooting position for Malcom Summers. Possibly through Ike Altgens.

And, of course, Summers had no concern about the windshield deflecting the bullet. Even a minor deflection of five degrees can turn a perfectly aimed shot into a clean miss of the head.

Also, while for some “musicians”, the air guitar is the instrument of choice, for Summers his weapon of choice appears to have been the air rifle.

But it must be admitted that the evidence against Summers is as good, possibly better, than the evidence that the election was stolen from Trump, as evident from the dossier on Dominion Voting Systems, which no one wants to take credit now for writing.

Sarcasm will get you no where.  This man's position is unknown and he was obviously in motion - (as in running).  There was momentum.  There are no photographs of the front of the car.   He was not behind Altgens and I guess you are an expert on bullet deflection when it hits glass as well.  Alas, I guess the if magic bullet took all sorts of twists and winds, finds itself on a stretcher, it is also logical for parts of the same to hit the windshield on the inside as well!

Let's see.  1st bullet wasn't a mushroom, second bullet was, third has a different casing and the fourth can't be found!  Oh yes, LHO was an expert shot with his bolt action rifle as well and loaded his own lead, each round carefully selected, even adjusted the grains and type of lead for accuracy and most damage!  If the first shot went through the president's neck and there were two more, where are they?  I can be just as sarcastic as you Joe!