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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2021, 10:28:00 PM »
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It's also a possible indicator that no such card existed at the time.  After all, why would he want to have such a card on him on the day of the assassination either?

The so called "selective service" card with the name Alek James Hidell is no selective service card....and it isn't even close to being a good copy of a genuine draft card.    Lee would have known that it was a federal crime to create a forgery or alter a real draft card.   Therefore when he created the Hidell card he was very careful that the card didn't even resemble a real draft card.

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2021, 10:28:00 PM »


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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2021, 08:20:16 PM »
In which the absurd claim is made once again that the evidence of Oswald's guilt is so overwhelming that we must conclude he is innocent.  Why would Oswald retain his Hidell ID that links him to the rifle?  LOL.  Maybe he was an idiot.  Lots of criminals do dumb things that result in their arrest and conviction.  Should they all be released because the evidence of their guilt is clear?  HA HA HA.  That's Alice-in-Wonderland logic.  Maybe Oswald had no idea what type of records Klein's retained of his purchase?  And, therefore, he had no good reason to get rid of a fake ID that might do him some good on the run.  The card is also not the only means to link him to this alias.  He listed Hidell on the form for his New Orleans PO Box.  So as a evidentiary matter, even if Oswald gets rid of the Hidell SS card, he is still linked to the alias used to purchase the rifle.  The rifle that was mailed to his PO Box and ends up at his place of employment with his prints on that rifle.  It's a slam dunk of guilt.  Even with the invention of the contrarian time machine, it would be difficult to figure out how there could be much more evidence to link Oswald to this crime.
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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2021, 08:25:21 PM »
The so called "selective service" card with the name Alek James Hidell is no selective service card....and it isn't even close to being a good copy of a genuine draft card.    Lee would have known that it was a federal crime to create a forgery or alter a real draft card.   Therefore when he created the Hidell card he was very careful that the card didn't even resemble a real draft card.

Making a bad forgery is a defense to forgery?  Keep them coming Walt. 

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2021, 08:25:21 PM »


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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2021, 10:02:28 PM »
Making a bad forgery is a defense to forgery?  Keep them coming Walt.

There was no forgery.....

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2021, 10:45:44 PM »
There was no forgery.....

Then what does this mean:  "Therefore when he created the Hidell card he was very careful that the card didn't even resemble a real draft card."

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2021, 10:45:44 PM »


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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2021, 01:03:57 AM »
In which the absurd claim is made once again that the evidence of Oswald's guilt is so overwhelming that we must conclude he is innocent.

What's absurd is "Richard Smith" has unleashed yet another strawman.

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  Why would Oswald retain his Hidell ID that links him to the rifle?  LOL.  Maybe he was an idiot.  Lots of criminals do dumb things that result in their arrest and conviction.

And why would Oswald conceal a rifle in a homemade bag that he somehow constructed at work in advance and smuggled home from work without anybody noticing?  Because he was clever enough to cover his tracks.  Whatever it takes.

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So as a evidentiary matter, even if Oswald gets rid of the Hidell SS card, he is still linked to the alias used to purchase the rifle.

Linked how?  Oh yeah:  unscientific and biased handwriting "analysis" of two block letters on a photo of a microfilm copy of a two-inch order coupon from microfilm that is "missing".

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  The rifle that was mailed to his PO Box

Which you still have yet to provide any evidence of.

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and ends up at his place of employment with his prints on that rifle.

No matter how many times you keep bleating "his prints on that rifle", that doesn't make it true.  The truth is that there were prints near the trigger guard area that were insufficient for identification purposes, and a single partial palmprint showed up a week later on an index card.  This is why you are known as Lying "Richard".

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  It's a slam dunk of guilt.

So you keep claiming.

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  Even with the invention of the contrarian time machine, it would be difficult to figure out how there could be much more evidence to link Oswald to this crime.

It doesn't take any imagination at all to think up much better possible evidence.  Too bad you don't have some.

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2021, 01:05:21 AM »
Then what does this mean:  "Therefore when he created the Hidell card he was very careful that the card didn't even resemble a real draft card."

Walt probably disagrees, but there is no evidence whatsoever that Lee Oswald made the Hidell selective service card.

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2021, 01:05:21 AM »


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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2021, 01:24:35 AM »
Walt probably disagrees, but there is no evidence whatsoever that Lee Oswald made the Hidell selective service card.

Yes, I do believe that Lee created the silly rendition of a draft card.....   

I don't know WHY... But possibly he might have thought that he might need to show some ID that he was AJ Hidell, of the Fair Play For Cuba Committee, before he'd be allowed to pick up any mail from the FPFCC headquarters in NY.
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