The precise location of a bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limousine.


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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Here's a photo of the note that FBI agent Robert Frazier made regarding his examination of the windshield. Again, he said he recovered "lead" from the inside of the windshield. That could only have been created by a bullet fragment (a whole bullet would presumably have gone right through the windshield) hitting the inside and not a bullet entering from the outside.
I think that a whole bullet could possibly leave lead on a hole (but of course very unlikely).

I think that CE567 was mainly copper but had lots of lead attached, so this is the likely culprit.
CE569 looks to have almost zero lead, but this probly made the dent in the chrome (how did it not graze the vizor?).

Interestingly (but as expected)(ie there was a conspiracy)(actually lots of conspiracies) there doesnt appear to have been an investigation whether CE567 & CE569 are from an AR15 hollow point 0.223 slug. Does anyone know?

If these 2 fragments came from a Carcano then that would mean that someone must have found some other large fragments of 0.223 in the limo & then that that someone or someone else must have kept these a secret. We know that that is the case because the windshield hasnt got any damage in Altgens-6 which is at Z255, & Oswald's 2nd shot (ie his last shot) was at Z218 (or Z224).

And my mind couldnt cope with CE567 being from a Carcano & CE569 being from an AR15, or vice versa.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2021, 03:03:32 AM by Marjan Rynkiewicz »

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Online Dan O'meara

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An interesting and informative interview concerning the location of a bullet hole in the limousine windshield, the hole was located just above the metal near the bottom of the glass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx2DhBgasCM    Thumb1:

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HI Christer,

just a couple of points about the video I felt worth mentioning. The first is this pic which is supposed to show a crack in the window shown in Altgens 6. The 'white blob' Weldon uses as his crack is actually JFK's shirt. This seems pretty obvious to me:



Secondly, the note Weldon uses to demonstrate there was a hole really low down on the windshield actually blows his proposal out of the water. The note clearly reads:

...HAD BULLET HOLE IN IT, THE
...WAS ABOUT 4 OR 6 INCHES TO
...RIGHT OF THE REAR VIEW MIRROR...




The note is clearly referencing this hole in the windshield:



The note, the centrepiece of Weldon's argument, is not referring to a hole low down on the windshield.

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: The precise location of a bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limousine.
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2021, 05:55:51 PM »
And another photo of one of Frazier's notes giving his measurements of the location of the "stellate crack":


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Re: The precise location of a bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limousine.
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Re: The precise location of a bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limousine.
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2021, 09:47:54 PM »
HI Christer,

just a couple of points about the video I felt worth mentioning. The first is this pic which is supposed to show a crack in the window shown in Altgens 6. The 'white blob' Weldon uses as his crack is actually JFK's shirt. This seems pretty obvious to me:

Secondly, the note Weldon uses to demonstrate there was a hole really low down on the windshield actually blows his proposal out of the water. The note clearly reads:

...HAD BULLET HOLE IN IT, THE
...WAS ABOUT 4 OR 6 INCHES TO
...RIGHT OF THE REAR VIEW MIRROR...


The note is clearly referencing this hole in the windshield:



The note, the centrepiece of Weldon's argument, is not referring to a hole low down on the windshield.

Hi Dan, thank you for commenting.

Im aware of this in many ways however some of the information which is available today concerning a hole in the windshield doesen't quite add up when compared. I wanted to shed some new light on the matter and from a slightly different angle. This is the best photo I have on the alleged hole further up on the windshield: https://photos.app.goo.gl/uUZR3BuvKmoLXzjH7

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Re: The precise location of a bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limousine.
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2021, 10:29:24 PM »
And another photo of one of Frazier's notes giving his measurements of the location of the "stellate crack":



Hi Steve,

If I'm reading Frazier's drawing correctly he is not even mentioning the crack in the windshield.
The measurements he has drawn on the windshield seem to refer to the dent in the chrome trim.

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Re: The precise location of a bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limousine.
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Re: The precise location of a bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limousine.
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2021, 01:06:50 AM »
The dangers of circling things on blurry photos  Thumb1:


You might instead use these combined photos to achieve a better comparison: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QWSSaTxhLSxrwJtW8


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