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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #312 on: March 22, 2021, 08:47:51 PM »
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It was a very dishonest process. There were no dead-to-rights for Lee. J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo two days after John F. Kennedy's assassination that the public must be led to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. You don't lead someone to believe something until all of the evidence is compiled and this memo was released mere weeks after the murder. They hadn't even yet come up with an explanation for the shot sequence and timing.

Katzenbach's memo says that "...it is important that all of the facts surrounding President Kennedy’s Assassination be made public in a way..." that he's the lone assassin. The "in a way" is another example of putting the cart before the horse.

There was no such thing as dead-to-rights. Oswald has absolutely no legal representation during the time he was in custody which is why he asked for representation at the press conference. It was his right to retain legal representation.

Some WC members did not agree fully with the WC's conclusions. It's a mess beyond all comprehension.

Your "in a way" also includes putting the findings of the investigation, including lack of conspirators, out to the public. That part is accounted for in the letter. You know, the part which you cultists clearly ignore or twist like a pretzel.

Oswald was offered legal representation but only wanted a particular lawyer (Abt) who was away and unavailable that weekend. Oswald was playing the fiddle real good in front of the press, wasn't he.
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #313 on: March 22, 2021, 10:09:34 PM »
No one saw John Wilkes Booth pull the trigger by the application of contrarian logic.  They just heard a "bang" and looked to see Booth holding a smoking pistol at the moment Lincoln was killed.  So there must be doubt via contrarian logic that he did it.

Is this supposed to "prove" that Oswald shot a rifle at JFK?

One trick pony...

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #314 on: March 22, 2021, 10:11:30 PM »
This case is a slam dunk.

So you claim after not having provided a single speck of evidence or basis for this assertion.  Ever.

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #315 on: March 22, 2021, 10:13:51 PM »
The WC investigation against Oswald was only biased in the sense that all the evidence pointed toward his guilt.

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  Katzenbach may have felt that it was important that the public be convinced of Oswald's guilt not due to any frame up but because Oswald was guilty and there were risks that nutty CTers could convince the public that a foreign power was behind the assassination and start WWIII on a false premise.

And Katzenbach (and Hoover) may have started with a foregone conclusion so that there wouldn't be a real investigation.

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #316 on: March 22, 2021, 10:15:27 PM »
Oswald was offered legal representation

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Not until after he was interrogated several times and arraigned.  And both Captain King and Justice of the Peace Johnston blatantly lied to Gregory Lee Olds of the ACLU on Saturday, telling him that Oswald had not made any requests for counsel.
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #317 on: March 23, 2021, 01:21:26 AM »
So you claim after not having provided a single speck of evidence or basis for this assertion.  Ever.

No proof needed; this is a discussion forum not a formal debate nor a court of law.
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #318 on: March 23, 2021, 01:52:05 AM »
BS:

Not until after he was interrogated several times and arraigned.  And both Captain King and Justice of the Peace Johnston blatantly lied to Gregory Lee Olds of the ACLU on Saturday, telling him that Oswald had not made any requests for counsel.

That's your interpretation. It doesn't mean you're right. I will always take everything that Oswald-cultists say with a good deal of salt.
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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #319 on: March 23, 2021, 01:45:45 PM »
The whole thing was a sham, Bill. Once Lee was dead and buried, they pretty much could say whatever they wanted to and the end result proves this. Hoover said they had to lead the public and K-Bach pretty much said the same thing. Even Dan Rather, supposedly NOT working for the government as an "independent" news man, started spreading the lies too on national TV Sunday night - again after Lee was dead.

It was all a very corrupt whitewash. The real truth was never going to be revealed and the murder of Oswald pretty much made their jobs very easy to do because there was no dissenting voice that we would have heard and seen during a real trial.