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Offline Fergus O'brien

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2023, 03:12:25 PM »
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"YOU claimed that Brehm had made an "undeniable statement" about watching a piece of JFK's head fly through the air.
But it IS a deniable statement because Brehm never made any such statement" dan

LANE : DID YOU SEE THE EFFECTS OF THE BULLET ON THE PRESIDENT ?
BREHM :WHEN THE SECOND BULLET HIT , THERE WAS , THE HAIR SEEMED TO GO FLYING (brehm indicated the hair on the rear and right of the head , see video below  ) .IT WAS VERY DEFINITE THEN THAT HE WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD WITH THE SECOND BULLET .AND UH YES , I VERY DEFINITELY SAW THE EFFECT OF THE SECOND BULLET .
LANE : DID YOU SEE ANY PARTICLES OF THE PRESIDENTS SKULL FLY WHEN THE BULLET STRUCK HIM IN THE HEAD ? .
BREHM :I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER , OH , OVER IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING .
LANE : IN WHICH DIRECTION DID THAT FLY ? .
BREHM :IT SEEMED TO HAVE COME LEFT AND BACK .
LANE :IN OTHER WORDS THE SKULL PARTICLES FLEW TO THE LEFT AND TO THE REAR OF THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINE ? .
BREHM :UH SIR WHAT EVER IT WAS THAT I SAW DID FALL BOTH IN THAT DIRECTION AND OVER IN THE CURB THERE .

"if i spoke to him i would have asked him about his undeniable statement about watching a piece of jfks head fly through the air both REARWARD and leftward and land at the curb where he stood"fergus

LANE : DID YOU SEE ANY PARTICLES OF THE PRESIDENTS SKULL FLY WHEN THE BULLET STRUCK HIM IN THE HEAD ? .
BREHM :I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER , OH , OVER IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING .


once again i have to state what is patently obvious above that I NEVER QUOTED BREHM VERBATIM , but some time the patently obvious is not so obvious to some it would seem .

so what did i say in my post that dan says i should not have  , that he disputes ? . lets review it .

"his undeniable statement " fergus

the above simply means that he spoke on film , logically one cant speak on film and be recorded and deny they did so .because the film is proof they did so .

"You were wrong to attribute those words to Brehm and label it an "undeniable statement".dan

that he spoke on film is undeniable .

"YOU claimed that Brehm had made an "undeniable statement" about watching a piece of JFK's head fly through the air.
But it IS a deniable statement because Brehm never made any such statement" dan

LANE : DID YOU SEE ANY PARTICLES OF THE PRESIDENTS SKULL FLY WHEN THE BULLET STRUCK HIM IN THE HEAD ? .
BREHM :I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER , OH , OVER IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING .


"You were wrong to attribute this to Brehm as an undeniable statement and trying to sneak out of it now by claiming you didn't use quotation marks isn't going to cut it.
You attributed this statement to Brehm quotation marks or not." dan

i attributed HIS OWN WORDING to him nothing else .

LANE : DID YOU SEE ANY PARTICLES OF THE PRESIDENTS SKULL FLY WHEN THE BULLET STRUCK HIM IN THE HEAD ? .
BREHM :I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER , OH , OVER IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING .


"What do you think you're playing at?
Is this deliberate deception or don't you know what you're saying?

And let me just clear this bullsh^t up once and for all.
You were wrong to post this:" dan

if there is any attempts to deceive here it has nothing to do with me . my original comment whether you happen to like that or not did not quote brehm .but it was not inaccurate as can be seen from HIS OWN WORDS .

in regards my comment about direction . here it is

"fly through the air both REARWARD and leftward" fergus

now lets see what brehm said on film .

LANE : IN WHICH DIRECTION DID THAT FLY ? .
BREHM :IT SEEMED TO HAVE COME LEFT AND BACK .
LANE :IN OTHER WORDS THE SKULL PARTICLES FLEW TO THE LEFT AND TO THE REAR OF THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINE ? .
BREHM :UH SIR WHAT EVER IT WAS THAT I SAW DID FALL BOTH IN THAT DIRECTION AND OVER IN THE CURB THERE .

lane even asked brehm for clarification and brehm clarified it by saying " UH SIR WHAT EVER IT WAS THAT I SAW DID FALL BOTH IN THAT DIRECTION AND OVER IN THE CURB THERE "

as far as i am concerned that is where this nonsense ends .now i wont reply any further in this thread in reply to dan on this matter . i will let the other people posting here carry on with the original topic this thread was intended to have . my apologies to the other posters here and to duncan , it was never any intention of mine to alter the thread , but one some times find they need to defend them selves against unfair or untrue comments . i hope the thread can now get back on topic .


Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #65 on: November 15, 2023, 03:15:42 PM »
"YOU claimed that Brehm had made an "undeniable statement" about watching a piece of JFK's head fly through the air.
But it IS a deniable statement because Brehm never made any such statement" dan

LANE : DID YOU SEE THE EFFECTS OF THE BULLET ON THE PRESIDENT ?
BREHM :WHEN THE SECOND BULLET HIT , THERE WAS , THE HAIR SEEMED TO GO FLYING (brehm indicated the hair on the rear and right of the head , see video below  ) .IT WAS VERY DEFINITE THEN THAT HE WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD WITH THE SECOND BULLET .AND UH YES , I VERY DEFINITELY SAW THE EFFECT OF THE SECOND BULLET .
LANE : DID YOU SEE ANY PARTICLES OF THE PRESIDENTS SKULL FLY WHEN THE BULLET STRUCK HIM IN THE HEAD ? .
BREHM :I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER , OH , OVER IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING .
LANE : IN WHICH DIRECTION DID THAT FLY ? .
BREHM :IT SEEMED TO HAVE COME LEFT AND BACK .
LANE :IN OTHER WORDS THE SKULL PARTICLES FLEW TO THE LEFT AND TO THE REAR OF THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINE ? .
BREHM :UH SIR WHAT EVER IT WAS THAT I SAW DID FALL BOTH IN THAT DIRECTION AND OVER IN THE CURB THERE .

"if i spoke to him i would have asked him about his undeniable statement about watching a piece of jfks head fly through the air both REARWARD and leftward and land at the curb where he stood"fergus

LANE : DID YOU SEE ANY PARTICLES OF THE PRESIDENTS SKULL FLY WHEN THE BULLET STRUCK HIM IN THE HEAD ? .
BREHM :I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER , OH , OVER IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING .


once again i have to state what is patently obvious above that I NEVER QUOTED BREHM VERBATIM , but some time the patently obvious is not so obvious to some it would seem .

so what did i say in my post that dan says i should not have  , that he disputes ? . lets review it .

"his undeniable statement " fergus

the above simply means that he spoke on film , logically one cant speak on film and be recorded and deny they did so .because the film is proof they did so .

"You were wrong to attribute those words to Brehm and label it an "undeniable statement".dan

that he spoke on film is undeniable .

"YOU claimed that Brehm had made an "undeniable statement" about watching a piece of JFK's head fly through the air.
But it IS a deniable statement because Brehm never made any such statement" dan

LANE : DID YOU SEE ANY PARTICLES OF THE PRESIDENTS SKULL FLY WHEN THE BULLET STRUCK HIM IN THE HEAD ? .
BREHM :I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER , OH , OVER IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING .


"You were wrong to attribute this to Brehm as an undeniable statement and trying to sneak out of it now by claiming you didn't use quotation marks isn't going to cut it.
You attributed this statement to Brehm quotation marks or not." dan

i attributed HIS OWN WORDING to him nothing else .

LANE : DID YOU SEE ANY PARTICLES OF THE PRESIDENTS SKULL FLY WHEN THE BULLET STRUCK HIM IN THE HEAD ? .
BREHM :I SAW A PIECE FLY OVER , OH , OVER IN THE AREA OF THE CURB WHERE I WAS STANDING .


"What do you think you're playing at?
Is this deliberate deception or don't you know what you're saying?

And let me just clear this bullsh^t up once and for all.
You were wrong to post this:" dan

if there is any attempts to deceive here it has nothing to do with me . my original comment whether you happen to like that or not did not quote brehm .but it was not inaccurate as can be seen from HIS OWN WORDS .

in regards my comment about direction . here it is

"fly through the air both REARWARD and leftward" fergus

now lets see what brehm said on film .

LANE : IN WHICH DIRECTION DID THAT FLY ? .
BREHM :IT SEEMED TO HAVE COME LEFT AND BACK .
LANE :IN OTHER WORDS THE SKULL PARTICLES FLEW TO THE LEFT AND TO THE REAR OF THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINE ? .
BREHM :UH SIR WHAT EVER IT WAS THAT I SAW DID FALL BOTH IN THAT DIRECTION AND OVER IN THE CURB THERE .

lane even asked brehm for clarification and brehm clarified it by saying " UH SIR WHAT EVER IT WAS THAT I SAW DID FALL BOTH IN THAT DIRECTION AND OVER IN THE CURB THERE "

as far as i am concerned that is where this nonsense ends .now i wont reply any further in this thread in reply to dan on this matter . i will let the other people posting here carry on with the original topic this thread was intended to have . my apologies to the other posters here and to duncan , it was never any intention of mine to alter the thread , but one some times find they need to defend them selves against unfair or untrue comments . i hope the thread can now get back on topic .

they need to defend them selves against unfair or untrue comments

The only person making untrue comments was you.