Then went inside with the curtain rods

[Alan Ford]

Unless the curtain rods could be proved to have been in the paper bag that Lee Oswald carried on the morning of 22 November 1963, the "documented fact" is immaterial.

Sorry, Mr Lidell, unless you can offer a good reason why two curtain rods would be submitted 3/15/64 for testing for Mr Oswald's prints, you don't get to declare this documented fact immaterial.

So-------what you got?

[Ross Lidell]

Your speculation is serious, or is it?

Do you really need to ask?

There is such a thing as "justified" speculation. Things we don't know but can guess based on known or likely prior events.

There is also something like biased speculation.

There's no evidence that Lee Oswald had inspected an apartment for rent and observed there were no curtains in a room. You just implied this to construct a negative reply.

The only reason why there is no evidence that Oswald looked for an apartment is because the WC narrative determined what we were supposed to know. Yet, from Marina's testimony we do know that he wanted to live with her again, which is something he could not have done at Beckley. In other words, if what Marina said is true, it follows that he must have been looking for a place.

Based on all that we know: Oswald did not need curtains and therefore did not need curtain rods.

Too bad that all we know is what the WC wanted us to know. The WC is to blame for fact that it was never investigated. My reply basically showed that there could have been an innocent explanation for the curtain rods, if that was in fact what Oswald brought to the TSBD.

In my opinion: The curtain rod story is indicative of a pre-crime "consciousness of guilt".

Sure it is, and let me guess... in no way are you biased, right?

The fact that Oswald was staying at a roominghouse does not preclude him bringing curtain roads on Friday morning. He asked Marina to move back in with him, which obviously couldn't have happened at the roominghouse. So, for all we know, he may well have been looking for an appartment prior to his trip to Irving and brought the curtain rods for that.

Lee Oswald never told Marina he been "looking for an apartment" (past tense). Correct me if I'm wrong: Marina testified (WC) that Lee said he would get an apartment the next week (future tense) and buy her a washing machine. It was a promise (an intention).

Additionally: Wouldn't Lee Oswald secure the apartment (sign a contract) first before obtaining curtain rods for it?

Again I say with all undue respect: You are engaging in unjustified S  P  E C U L A T I O N .

[Ross Lidell]

Sorry, Mr Lidell, unless you can offer a good reason why two curtain rods would be submitted 3/15/64 for testing for Mr Oswald's prints, you don't get to declare this documented fact immaterial.

So-------what you got?

The Dallas cops were being excessively thorough.

[Alan Ford]

The Dallas cops were being excessively thorough.

You're being excessively vague, Mr Lidell.

Why exactly would 'the Dallas cops' (actually an SS agent) want to test two curtain rods for Mr Oswald's prints 3/15/64? What would be the point of such a test?

[Steve M. Galbraith]

The fact that Oswald was staying at a roominghouse does not preclude him bringing curtain roads on Friday morning. He asked Marina to move back in with him, which obviously couldn't have happened at the roominghouse. So, for all we know, he may well have been looking for an appartment prior to his trip to Irving and brought the curtain rods for that.

Lee Oswald never told Marina he been "looking for an apartment" (past tense). Correct me if I'm wrong: Marina testified (WC) that Lee said he would get an apartment the next week (future tense) and buy her a washing machine. It was a promise (an intention).

Additionally: Wouldn't Lee Oswald secure the apartment (sign a contract) first before obtaining curtain rods for it?

Again I say with all undue respect: You are engaging in unjustified S  P  E C U L A T I O N .

How would Oswald know he needed curtain rods - only two - for an apartment that he had not even looked at?

You are correct about him not telling Marina he had looked for an apartment. Here is Marina's testimony about the apartment issue that he raised on that Thursday before the assassination:

Mrs. OSWALD. He was upset over the fact that I would not answer him. He tried to start a conversation with me several times, but I would not answer. And he said that he didn't want me to be angry at him because this upsets him.
On that day, he suggested that we rent an apartment in Dallas. He said that
he was tired of living alone and perhaps the reason for my being so angry was the fact that we were not living together. That if I want to he would rent an apartment in Dallas tomorrow--that he didn't want me to remain with Ruth any longer, but wanted me to live with him in Dallas.
He repeated this not once but several times, but I refused. And he said that once again I was preferring my friends to him, and that I didn't need him.
Mr. RANKIN. What did you say to that?
Mrs. OSWALD. I said it would be better if I remained with Ruth until the holidays, he would come, and we would all meet together. That this was better because while he was living alone and I stayed with Ruth, we were spending less money. And I told him to buy me a washing machine, because two children it became too difficult to wash by hand.
Mr. RANKIN. What did he say to that?
Mrs. OSWALD. He said he would buy me a washing machine.

Remember that he left nearly all of his money - $170 - the morning of the assassination with Marina. He had less than $20 with him when arrested (I can't recall the exact total).

Marina's relevant testimony is here: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/oswald_m1.htm

[Ross Lidell]

You're being excessively vague, Mr Lidell.

Why exactly would 'the Dallas cops' (actually an SS agent) want to test two curtain rods for Mr Oswald's prints 3/15/64? What would be the point of such a test?

I must stop multi-tasking. Neither can be given 100% concentration.

Correction: The Secret Service was being excessively thorough.

In other words: Trying to rule out Oswald's curtain rods story being true. What else?

[Alan Ford]

I must stop multi-tasking. Neither can be given 100% concentration.

I hear you! 

Correction: The Secret Service was being excessively thorough.

In other words: Trying to rule out Oswald's curtain rods story being true. What else?

OK, but curtain rods found in the Paine garage would already be ruled out as being curtain rods brought to work by Mr Oswald. So whether or not those rods might happen to have his fingerprints would be completely immaterial. Right?