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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2021, 01:18:25 AM »
The evidence indicates curtain rods being removed from Mrs. Paine’s garage, not the Depository building.

It looks like a request to pick up evidence was made on 03-15-64, the evidence was picked up on 03-23-64 and this paperwork was completed the next day on 03-24-64.

So, what is the big deal?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2021, 01:23:21 AM »
The evidence indicates curtain rods being removed from Mrs. Paine’s garage, not the Depository building.

It looks like a request to pick up evidence was made on 03-15-64, the evidence was picked up on 03-23-64 and this paperwork was completed the next day on 03-24-64.

So, what is the big deal?

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The big deal, Mr Bono, is that you can't read. These curtain rods were submitted by Agent Howlett on 3/15/64, eight days before Agent Howlett took two curtain rods from the Paine residence.



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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2021, 04:34:44 AM »
What Dallas Police officer says “Date Submitted”, March 15, on this form means when the object was picked up?
Could it mean something else, like when a request to pick up the object is made?

Where does it say the curtain rods were picked up on March 23?
Specimen released “3-24-64” seems reasonable, the curtain rods were released after they were picked up?

And if it does mean what you say, object picked up on March 15, 1964, but it really wasn’t, it’s not like I never heard of anyone filling in the wrong information on a report.
And what would be the purpose of filling in the wrong date when the object was picked up?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2021, 11:23:29 AM »
What Dallas Police officer says “Date Submitted”, March 15, on this form means when the object was picked up?[
Could it mean something else, like when a request to pick up the object is made?

No, Mr Bono-----unless, that is, one is happy for one's research to be part of the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated, and even manufactured.

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Where does it say the curtain rods were picked up on March 23?

Read Ms Ruth Paine's WC testimony at her home!

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Specimen released “3-24-64” seems reasonable, the curtain rods were released after they were picked up?

Not if they were submitted before being picked up.

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And if it does mean what you say,

No, it means what it says: "submitted"----------your creative semantics here are a lost cause

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object picked up on March 15, 1964, but it really wasn’t, it’s not like I never heard of anyone filling in the wrong information on a report.

If "Lt. Day must have confused 23 March with 15 March" is the best you can do, then you're obviously comfortable with a culture in which facts themselves are manipulated, and even manufactured.

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And what would be the purpose of filling in the wrong date when the object was picked up?

Who said it was the wrong date? These two curtain rods were submitted for fingerprint examination on 15 March---------------8 days before Ms Paine's testimony at her home.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2021, 07:20:05 PM »

Read Ms Ruth Paine's WC testimony at her home!

Ms. Paine’s testimony goes on for pages and pages spread over many volumes. I always provide links to my claims.

Which Volume number did she talk about the curtain rods being picked up? Which page number?

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2021, 08:00:41 PM »
What Dallas Police officer says “Date Submitted”, March 15, on this form means when the object was picked up?
Could it mean something else, like when a request to pick up the object is made?

Where does it say the curtain rods were picked up on March 23?
Specimen released “3-24-64” seems reasonable, the curtain rods were released after they were picked up?

And if it does mean what you say, object picked up on March 15, 1964, but it really wasn’t, it’s not like I never heard of anyone filling in the wrong information on a report.
And what would be the purpose of filling in the wrong date when the object was picked up?

What Dallas Police officer says “Date Submitted”, March 15, on this form means when the object was picked up?
Could it mean something else, like when a request to pick up the object is made?


No, I don't think it could mean that. The document shown was used to submit evidence to the Identification Bureau of the DPD. So, in this case it means that Officer Howell submitted 2 curtain rods, to the Identification Bureau on 3/15/64 at 9:45 AM.

The document also says that Howell picked up the curtain rods on 3/24/64 from the Identifaction Bureau, where they were released to him by Lt Day.

Which leaves two questions to be answered;

1. When were the curtain rods picked up at Ruth Paine's house? I couldn't find the answer in Ruth Paine's testimony, but maybe I overlooked it

2. Why would Howell need to collect the curtain rods on 3/24/64?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2021, 08:51:08 PM »
What Dallas Police officer says “Date Submitted”, March 15, on this form means when the object was picked up?

The document shown was used to submit evidence to the Identification Bureau of the DPD. So, in this case it means that Officer Howell submitted the evidence, in this case 2 curtain rods, to the Identification Bureau on 3/15/64 at 9:45 AM.

John Howlett was a Secret Service man ....and one of the creators of the video that is supposed to prove that Lee Oswald could have murdered JFK by ambushing him from the sixth floor window, and then scurrying to the NW corner and hastily dumping the carcano behind a row of boxes before charging unseen down the stairs to the second floor lunchroom where DPD officer Marrion Baker encountered him less than two minutes after the FIRST shot was fired.  The video that Howlett and the WC cover up committee created is a gross distortion of evidence.   The WC said that Howlett carried a carcano from the SE corner window to the NW corner and concealed the rifle behind the boxes before he walked down the stairs to the 2nd floor lunchroom.  The video clearly shows that Howlett did NOT carry a rifle from the SE corner and carefully conceal it behind a row of boxes...Howlett was carrying a 3 foot long piece of 1 X 3 lumber which probably weighed less than a half pound and he slid it into a narrow crack behind some boxes at the head of the stairs.  A mannlicher carcano would NOT have fit in that crack because the sling and bolt handle would have prevented the insertion  of the rifle into that crack.

Howlett was one of the cover up men....so he shouldn't be believed about the curtain rods.