Author Topic: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319  (Read 605 times)

Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2021, 09:15:05 AM »
The most common answer I have heard is frame 315. If you calculate lines of sight through the limo to the fence in the Knoll and certain portions of the stairs it shows the limo to be at the frame 315 position. It is hard to be completely accurate But it seems to be about three feet past frame 313.

I based it on  Z318 to Z319  because it appears Kellerman is not facing directly forward when this photo was taken.   I base that assumption on the round profile of the back of his head (as illustrated by another picture of him when he was in a motorcade with FDR.   I can agree that the only logical place that the polaroid photo taken by Mary Moorman in her given position on Zapruder film was at Zapruder Z315 or Z316 as everyone pointed out in their arguments.  I have always wondered why Jacqueline's actions are delayed and why the Moorman camera appears motionless helplessly stuck pointing at Z300 and then end up taking this picture at Z316 - miracle!   

Kellerman's head appears to be turned but it is being masked as well by an obstruction!?  At what point does this head turn match Zapruder's frames? (Z319?)     I believe John Connally was already at center of compartment.    Connally's head sits in the right direction at Z315 or Z316 for the polaroid shot.   I can't explain what is obscuring Kellerman's
face.  I am sure there is a logical explanation - just don't know what. Was there an object in the  front seat between Greer and him that showed up?

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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2021, 11:22:02 PM »
I never paid much attention if any to JFK in the Moorman photo.  But, looking at the enlargement now it appears to indicate a massive skull defect toward the top and front.   Am I seeing that right?

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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2021, 04:27:07 AM »
I never paid much attention if any to JFK in the Moorman photo.  But, looking at the enlargement now it appears to indicate a massive skull defect toward the top and front.   Am I seeing that right?

That's what i see also.
headshot Z-313
moorman Z-315


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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2021, 05:12:04 AM »
Kellerman "ducking down" immediately after the headshot.
I slowed the film down so i could concentrate on the movement inside the limo.

I made this stabilized GIF a couple of years ago.

« Last Edit: January 13, 2021, 05:16:57 AM by Robin Unger »

Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2021, 06:07:35 AM »
Kellerman "ducking down" immediately after the headshot.
I slowed the film down so i could concentrate on the movement inside the limo.

I made this stabilized GIF a couple of years ago.




You did an absolutely great job on that gif! What software is that and what was the source photos?  Duly noted, we do see something in Zapruder Z316 which matches on that side of head or at least front.  There seems to be some agreement amongst us!  Not only damage on RHS, it may mean the whole entire face was ripped away and swung to the front?  You have captured the light aberrations beautifully at Z322 and Z330 where I once thought was glass caught in the light coming through w/s.  I have never been sure how to get Connally out of the way!  I thought Kellerman was ducked out at both times.    Maybe you have a nice cropped image of it perhaps that would show the little tail in the hair that extends up better and the top edge?   it can be seen much better when enlarged - although blurry!  Too bad a pixellation line shows up right at the explosion/head interface.








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Offline Robin Unger

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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2021, 12:28:40 PM »
Another stabilized GIF i made a couple of years ago.

This time it was stabilzed on Mary Moorman. notice she has the camera up to her eye the whole time as she tracks the Limo right up to the headshot and then snaps Moorman 5 at frame Z-315

The frames came from the NOVA Cold Case JFK Documentary.
I manually stabilized each frame individually using Paint Shop Pro



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Re: Moorman Photo taken at Zapruder Z319
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2021, 02:31:42 PM »
Kellerman "ducking down" immediately after the headshot.
I slowed the film down so i could concentrate on the movement inside the limo.

I made this stabilized GIF a couple of years ago.



Wow!... Nice work Robin...."something" causes a bright flash in front of Kellerman's face.   I'd like to hear a logical  explanation for that flash.     

 

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