Author Topic: Assault on the Capitol  (Read 1231 times)

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Assault on the Capitol
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2021, 06:40:49 PM »
From yesterday's (1/9/21) Wall Street Journal account of the preparations for the protests/rally:

"In the days before the Jan. 6 rally, local and federal officials took a different tack in their preparations.

[Washingont DC Mayor] Ms. Bowser, in a letter to federal officials Monday, urged a light security footprint for Wednesday’s protests to avoid the type of show of force that inflamed tensions during last year’s racial-justice protests.

Military and defense officials offered assistance and prepared what all sides saw as a sufficient number of D.C. National Guard soldiers—about 340—to perform support duties such as traffic management, military officials said.

The U.S. Capitol Police, which is responsible for security at the Capitol and answers to Congress, twice told the Pentagon that no additional support was needed, according to officials and a Defense Department timeline. Local police generally require permission from Capitol Police to control crowds on the grounds of congressional buildings.

'The general attitude from Capitol Police was: ‘We got this. We do this all time,’” said a U.S. official familiar with the discussions."

Full story here (account needed): https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-capitol-riot-communications-between-agencies-hampered-forceful-response-11610242709
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Online Joe Elliott

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Re: Assault on the Capitol
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2021, 05:54:06 AM »

'The general attitude from Capitol Police was: ‘We got this. We do this all time,’” said a U.S. official familiar with the discussions."

They don’t deal with a treasonous President, all the time.
They don’t deal with a treasonous President, convincing tens of millions of Americans that the election was stolen from them, all the time.
They don’t deal with a treasonous President, calling upon his most devoted followers, to descend on Washington D. C. on a critical day for electing our President, with “Be there, it will be wild”, all the time.
They need to understand, that with the success of MAGA, that there might be ten times as many on January 20.
They need to understand that there is a significant chance that they will be as surprised on January 20, as they were on January 6, if they are expecting a January 6 number of MAGA people to show up.

They need to understand, that we are not in Kansas anymore.

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Re: Assault on the Capitol
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2021, 07:02:21 PM »
They don’t deal with a treasonous President, all the time.
They don’t deal with a treasonous President, convincing tens of millions of Americans that the election was stolen from them, all the time.
They don’t deal with a treasonous President, calling upon his most devoted followers, to descend on Washington D. C. on a critical day for electing our President, with “Be there, it will be wild”, all the time.
They need to understand, that with the success of MAGA, that there might be ten times as many on January 20.
They need to understand that there is a significant chance that they will be as surprised on January 20, as they were on January 6, if they are expecting a January 6 number of MAGA people to show up.

They need to understand, that we are not in Kansas anymore.

From the NY Times today (stating the obvious): "Poor planning and communication among a constellation of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies hamstrung the response to the rioting. Once the Capitol building was breached, a patchwork group of reinforcements was forced to try to navigate a labyrinthine complex of unfamiliar passages and byways that would prove dangerous."

How many times have we seen this through the years? These bureaucracies not talking to one another, turf battles over control, patchwork organization, no coordination, in-fighting.

It's why, for one reason, these JFK conspiracy theories about multiple agencies conspiring to kill JFK, frame an innocent person, engineer a fake investigation and then cover all of this up make no sense on so many levels. They simply can't pull it off in secret. Too many people, too many obstacles, too much bureaucratic independence.....It can't be done AND then kept secret for decades. And frankly, for me JFK simply wasn't the supposed threat to "them" that conspiracists think. There was no need, if you will, to remove him.
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Assault on the Capitol
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2021, 09:58:22 AM »
Congresswoman witnessed insurrectionists doing a 'reconnaissance tour' before the attack on the Capitol
https://www.rawstory.com/insurrectionists-did-reconnaissance-tour/

Online Joe Elliott

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Re: Assault on the Capitol
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2021, 12:26:24 AM »
From the NY Times today (stating the obvious): "Poor planning and communication among a constellation of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies hamstrung the response to the rioting. Once the Capitol building was breached, a patchwork group of reinforcements was forced to try to navigate a labyrinthine complex of unfamiliar passages and byways that would prove dangerous."

How many times have we seen this through the years? These bureaucracies not talking to one another, turf battles over control, patchwork organization, no coordination, in-fighting.

It's why, for one reason, these JFK conspiracy theories about multiple agencies conspiring to kill JFK, frame an innocent person, engineer a fake investigation and then cover all of this up make no sense on so many levels. They simply can't pull it off in secret. Too many people, too many obstacles, too much bureaucratic independence.....It can't be done AND then kept secret for decades. And frankly, for me JFK simply wasn't the supposed threat to "them" that conspiracists think. There was no need, if you will, to remove him.

Very good point. They can’t even form a conspiracy to protect the Capitol.

Get everyone to agree to beef up security at the Capitol because of a very obvious threat that the President has been talking about for weeks? No. Bad optics. Get everyone on board to kill the President? Sure, no problem.

From the NY Times today (stating the obvious): "Poor planning and communication among a constellation of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies hamstrung the response to the rioting. Once the Capitol building was breached, a patchwork group of reinforcements was forced to try to navigate a labyrinthine complex of unfamiliar passages and byways that would prove dangerous."

How many times have we seen this through the years? These bureaucracies not talking to one another, turf battles over control, patchwork organization, no coordination, in-fighting.

It's why, for one reason, these JFK conspiracy theories about multiple agencies conspiring to kill JFK, frame an innocent person, engineer a fake investigation and then cover all of this up make no sense on so many levels. They simply can't pull it off in secret. Too many people, too many obstacles, too much bureaucratic independence.....It can't be done AND then kept secret for decades. And frankly, for me JFK simply wasn't the supposed threat to "them" that conspiracists think. There was no need, if you will, to remove him.

Very good point. They can’t even form a conspiracy to protect the Capitol.

Get everyone to agree to beef up security at the Capitol because of a very obvious threat that the President has been talking about for weeks? No. Bad optics. Get everyone on board to kill the President? Sure, no problem.

In 1963:
Dallas mayor and police on board? No. Bad optics. Needs to be a different city.
FBI on board? No. Bad optics. Needs to setup someone the FBI has not been investigating.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 12:29:57 AM by Joe Elliott »

 

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