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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2021, 12:32:36 PM »
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  According to those closest to LBJ, including Bobby Baker, LBJ was responsible for at least 8 murders, including JFK and his own sister.  Multiple authors have reported the same things. Don't forget that the Russians investigated the assassination for nearly two years and concluded that LBJ was the prime suspect. Johnson's behavior on 11/22/63 is worth a book by itself. Why did LBJ harass JFK to insist his arch enemy Yarborough ride in the president's car for the Dallas motorcade instead of his best friend Connnally? Is this a possible indication of foreknowledge?
   The cover up seems to have begun very quickly. LBJ commandeered Air Force 1 immediately and insisted on being sworn in on the plane, even though he was already president. I don't know how much he influenced the autopsy, but there are so many outrageous reports about what happened at Bethesda, the mind boggles. Also, it seems rather suspicious that Johnson called Parkland Hospital trying to get a death bed confession from the attending surgeons trying to save LHO.
  Johnson was facing prosecution and was likely to be dumped from the '64 ticket. His political career depended upon JFK's removal. Johnson certainly did everything he could to cover up the conspiracy that killed JFK. His pal Hoover is also one of the most evil characters in American history and his cover up for the real killers should be clearly illustrated for the history books. He was the perfect accomplice to cover up the assassination. Fortunately, we are getting more answers due to the diligence of independent researchers. Who had more to gain from JFK's death than LBJ?


Who had more to gain from JFK's death than LBJ?


Fidel Castro (LHO’s hero)!

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Re: Lyndon Johnson for 2024
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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Lyndon Johnson for 2024
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2021, 03:03:59 PM »

Who had more to gain from JFK's death than LBJ?


Fidel Castro (LHO’s hero)!

How could Fidel have predicted that the US wouldn't invade Cuba in response to Kennedy's assassination? Makes no sense given the conventional wisdom of the time. 

Johnson admitted that he suspected Russian or Cuban involvement but he clearly wanted to avoid a costly war with the Soviets and wisely didn't escalate tensions despite his suspicions.

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Re: Lyndon Johnson for 2024
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2021, 04:27:02 PM »
How could Fidel have predicted that the US wouldn't invade Cuba in response to Kennedy's assassination? Makes no sense given the conventional wisdom of the time. 

Johnson admitted that he suspected Russian or Cuban involvement but he clearly wanted to avoid a costly war with the Soviets and wisely didn't escalate tensions despite his suspicions.


How could Fidel have predicted that the US wouldn't invade Cuba in response to Kennedy's assassination? Makes no sense given the conventional wisdom of the time. 

There hasn’t been credible evidence that Castro was behind the assassination. However there is some evidence that he knew ahead of time that there was going to be an attempt. All he needed to do was stay silent instead of notifying the U.S. ahead of time. Additionally, Castro was known for taking risky chances and for other assassinations and attempted assassinations. This type of thing was right up his alley, so to speak.
 
I believe that Fidel Castro was smart enough to do two things. Number one, he made it appear that he was unaware of the assassination attempt by having the reporters with him at that time. Number two, he supported the disinformation efforts by the Soviets to suggest that other Americans were responsible for a conspiracy. Castro was smart enough to know that, without ample evidence of Cuban involvement, the United States was unlikely to invade his country. And I believe that he made sure that very soon after the assassination the few people who knew very much about the circumstances were recalled back to Cuba from Mexico City.


Johnson admitted that he suspected Russian or Cuban involvement but he clearly wanted to avoid a costly war with the Soviets and wisely didn't escalate tensions despite his suspicions.

Exactly! Suspicions are not enough to justify starting a war. He needed convincing evidence for that. If such evidence had been developed and the public made aware of it, I believe that we would probably have invaded Cuba due to public pressure, if nothing else.

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Re: Lyndon Johnson for 2024
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2021, 04:43:10 PM »
If you want to listen to a real sociopath in action just listen to Trump's phone call/conversation with the Georgia Secretary of State. Unbelievable. Trump made, reportedly, 18 calls before to try and talk to him. This was #19.

Trump has no conscience at all, he hasn't the slightest idea of the concept of the rule of law, of anything other than what is in his own interest. Everything is a transaction to benefit him. That's just an amazing call. He is totally oblivious to any idea of the law, of the Constitution, of what public officials are sworn to uphold.

"Just change those votes, Mr. Secretary. Do it as a good Republican. Forget about anything else." (yes, this is paraphrasing; he didn't actually say these words)

Added: Although in his defense, Trump actually does believe - he does - that the election was stolen, that the vote in Georgia was rigged against him. So his complaint may be honest and sincere; but how he wants the Secretary of State to handle this is simply reckless and dangerous. Illegal? Probably not and characterizing it, as Carl Bernstein did, as "worse than Watergate" is silly; asking the Secretary to look into the matter is not a crime. But certainly it's not what a President should be doing. We have a legal process for candidates to use. That's how we decide such matters.
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Re: Lyndon Johnson for 2024
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2021, 04:47:18 PM »

Exactly! Suspicions are not enough to justify starting a war. He needed convincing evidence for that.

Since when?  :D

Almost every war has been based on lies and propaganda.

Johnson, a true believer in the Domino Theory and responsible for the Gulf of Tonkin hoax, didn't need concrete evidence for other conflicts.

If such evidence had been developed and the public made aware of it, I believe that we would probably have invaded Cuba due to public pressure, if nothing else.

Hence the US government's justification for obstructing or burying investigations into the conspiratorial leads in the JFK case.

It's generally a good practice to avoid asking the questions that you don't want to know the answer to...
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2021, 05:21:15 PM »
Since when?  :D

Almost every war has been based on lies and propaganda.

Johnson, a true believer in the Domino Theory and responsible for the Gulf of Tonkin hoax, didn't need concrete evidence for other conflicts.

Hence the US government's justification for obstructing or burying investigations into the conspiratorial leads in the JFK case.

It's generally a good practice to avoid asking the questions that you don't want to know the answer to...

Then those wars were not justified.

There is no justification for obstruction of the investigation.

There are no questions regarding the JFK assassination that I don’t want to know the answer to.

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Re: Lyndon Johnson for 2024
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2021, 05:42:29 PM »


There are no questions regarding the JFK assassination that I don’t want to know the answer to.

That comment wasn't directed at you.

My point was, Johnson didn't want to know if there was a conspiracy because he didn't want to deal with the consequences. He had suspicions but didn't want to investigate the conspiratorial leads. He didn't ask the questions that he didn't want to know the answers to...
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2021, 06:04:12 PM »
That comment wasn't directed at you.

My point was, Johnson didn't want to know if there was a conspiracy because he didn't want to deal with the consequences. He had suspicions but didn't want to investigate the conspiratorial leads. He didn't ask the questions that he didn't want to know the answers to...


Do you believe that same mind set applied to the Warren Commission investigators? Or do you believe that each one of them would have wanted to be the one who uncovered a conspiracy?