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Offline Jim Brunsman

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Re: Operation Eyeball
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2020, 05:45:54 AM »
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Some people refuse to accept that the real killers escaped and we honestly don't know who killed our president. It certainly wasn't Oswald unless his powers of bilocation were fully active that day. Moreover, the Zapruder film, Dealey Plaza eyewitnesses, Parkland reports, and autospy witnesses clearly state the fatal shot originated from the front, resulting in a massive hole in the BACK of the head. It's possible there were two head shots, but why didn't the president's face show damage if Oswald is the killer? We also know the SBT is anatomically impossible since multiple witnesses at the autopsy reported that the BACK SHOT DID NOT EXIT. The wound penetrated to a depth of less than a finger's length! END OF SINGLE BULLET THEORY FOREVER. Let's be honest about the SBT, shall we? It's was a moronic idea from the start and Arlen Specter should be inducted in the historical Hall of Shame for concocting it. The wound in the president's throat was an entrance as stated by experienced doctors and nurses in Dallas. May the history books exonerate Oswald, who was most likely loitering on the 2nd floor at the time of the shooting. Looks like it's also EXTREMELY improbable LHO killed Tippitt as well since witnesses report the shooting occurred too early for Oswald to arrive at the scene. Oswald was exactly what he said he was: a patsy. I've seen not a bit of evidence in this case that isn't suspicious, which should be an indicator something isn't quite right. If Oswald was the lone killer, everything would fit nicely. Instead, the entire case is one contradiction after another that cannot be understood until we have read the accounts of the shocking events that took place at Bethesda in the morgue. For those of you who haven't read Douglas Horne's ARRB material, buckle up. You're in for a shock. David Lifton covered much of this ground in 1980 with "Best Evidence" but few really understood how important his research is. I interviewed him in 1986.
  I wonder if Chapman can even begin to refute the facts or will resort to the usual deflecting sarcasm?

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Re: Operation Eyeball
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Operation Eyeball
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2020, 07:00:52 AM »
Oswald shot Tippit and probably shot Kennedy.

You believe or you know?

I said it, so it must be true.

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Re: Operation Eyeball
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2020, 07:33:41 AM »
Some people refuse to accept that the real killers escaped and we honestly don't know who killed our president. It certainly wasn't Oswald unless his powers of bilocation were fully active that day. Moreover, the Zapruder film, Dealey Plaza eyewitnesses, Parkland reports, and autospy witnesses clearly state the fatal shot originated from the front, resulting in a massive hole in the BACK of the head. It's possible there were two head shots, but why didn't the president's face show damage if Oswald is the killer? We also know the SBT is anatomically impossible since multiple witnesses at the autopsy reported that the BACK SHOT DID NOT EXIT. The wound penetrated to a depth of less than a finger's length! END OF SINGLE BULLET THEORY FOREVER. Let's be honest about the SBT, shall we? It's was a moronic idea from the start and Arlen Specter should be inducted in the historical Hall of Shame for concocting it. The wound in the president's throat was an entrance as stated by experienced doctors and nurses in Dallas. May the history books exonerate Oswald, who was most likely loitering on the 2nd floor at the time of the shooting. Looks like it's also EXTREMELY improbable LHO killed Tippitt as well since witnesses report the shooting occurred too early for Oswald to arrive at the scene. Oswald was exactly what he said he was: a patsy. I've seen not a bit of evidence in this case that isn't suspicious, which should be an indicator something isn't quite right. If Oswald was the lone killer, everything would fit nicely. Instead, the entire case is one contradiction after another that cannot be understood until we have read the accounts of the shocking events that took place at Bethesda in the morgue. For those of you who haven't read Douglas Horne's ARRB material, buckle up. You're in for a shock. David Lifton covered much of this ground in 1980 with "Best Evidence" but few really understood how important his research is. I interviewed him in 1986.
  I wonder if Chapman can even begin to refute the facts or will resort to the usual deflecting sarcasm?

Phew. Ever heard of paragraph breaks?

Bilocation? You're selling your boy short: He was actually in a state of trilocation.
1) OH Lee (aka Lee Harvey Oswald) was in charge of safe-house procurement.
2) Alek Hidell (aka Lee Harvey Oswald) was in charge of armament procurement
3) Dirty Harvey (aka Lee Harvey Oswald) was in charge of killing poor dumb cops

There you go...you can take a breath now.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2020, 07:53:59 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2020, 03:37:32 PM »
Some would argue that it was Nixon and abuses of power by certain institutions that paved the way for distrust in authority so neccessary for Trumpism to prevail. Along with minds softened by an explosion in "reality" TV, an obsession with material goods and a warped perception of "success perhaps. Who knows.

JFK conspiracy theory led the increase in public cynicism in the 1960s. The removal of JFK was the "explanation" for the Vietnam War. Maybe you remember the other major assassinations (and attendant assumption of conspiracy) and the Chicago convention? Riots in the street; youth activism. "Law and order" and "honorable end to the war in Vietnam" was offered by the Right to stabilize America.

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Are for your theory. The ongoing thread started by Paul May clearly shows many "CTs" are pro Trump and many anti, looks to me about 50/50. Same for LNs. Nice try though.

What? Paving the way for Trumpism doesn't mean CTs became Trumpers or QAnons. Left and Right became more susceptible to a wide range of conspiracy theory because of the JFK conspiracy theorists.
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Operation Eyeball
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2020, 05:52:20 PM »
JFK conspiracy theory led the increase in public cynicism in the 1960s. The removal of JFK was the "explanation" for the Vietnam War. Maybe you remember the other major assassinations (and attendant assumption of conspiracy) and the Chicago convention? Riots in the street; youth activism. "Law and order" and "honorable end to the war in Vietnam" was offered by the Right to stabilize America.

What? Paving the way for Trumpism doesn't mean CTs became Trumpers or QAnons. Left and Right became more susceptible to a wide range of conspiracy theory because of the JFK conspiracy theorists.
What are these " conspiracies " on the Left?

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Operation Eyeball
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2020, 03:27:54 AM »
JFK conspiracy theory led the increase in public cynicism in the 1960s. The removal of JFK was the "explanation" for the Vietnam War. Maybe you remember the other major assassinations (and attendant assumption of conspiracy) and the Chicago convention? Riots in the street; youth activism. "Law and order" and "honorable end to the war in Vietnam" was offered by the Right to stabilize America.

What? Paving the way for Trumpism doesn't mean CTs became Trumpers or QAnons. Left and Right became more susceptible to a wide range of conspiracy theory because of the JFK conspiracy theorists.

Here is a link to a 538 article.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-one-thing-in-politics-most-americans-believe-in-jfk-conspiracies/

Looks like Warren did a reasonable job of calming the populace the Garrison had some impact on opinion to turn the tide. Factor in assassinations of RFK, MLK et al. Then the Church Committee etc, leading to HSCA.

Difficult to gauge the amount of public cynicism overall prior to the JFK hit but certainly many did not buy the LN story from day one, I’ll grant you that.

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Re: Operation Eyeball
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2020, 09:11:58 PM »
What the CTs really have to show for their efforts: paving the way for Trumpism. When Biden/Harris take charge, try believing in public institutions and show some appreciation for the real investigators.
These political snipes are not what this forum is about. I don't understand why they are allowed/tolerated. There are other boards somewhere for this.

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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2020, 11:23:10 PM »
These political snipes are not what this forum is about. I don't understand why they are allowed/tolerated. There are other boards somewhere for this.

No political snipes on a JFK Assassination Forum? Glad to hear there will be no more claims LBJ killed Kennedy or helped with the cover-up. No more city police and federal agencies being complicit. Or the Warren Commission and HSCA engaged in cover-up. Or LNers on the broad being CIA.

There'll be nothing left to talk about.