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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #406 on: November 20, 2021, 10:38:13 PM »
I don't believe that she has ever been inconsistent on taking the BY photos.  She just couldn't remember exactly when or how many such photos that she took when asked many months later.   Many people couldn't remember exactly when they took a picture if you asked them months after the event.  That creates no ambiguity, however, about her taking them.  If even one is genuine, there would be no reason whatsoever for anyone to fake additional photos.

Most people don’t forget details of the first time they did something. Especially if it was for an unusual occasion as strange as Lee’s backyard photos. How often did Lee ask her to take pictures of him posing with guns? Rare and emotionally stressful events aren’t easily forgotten.

No one in the film argues that the photos are fake.

The fact that they brought up the Backyard Photos while discussing the inconsistencies with the rifle imply that the producers of JFK Revisited accept that the BYP are authentic.

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #407 on: November 20, 2021, 11:27:05 PM »
I’m not arguing that the BYP are fake so no, I’m not questioning the experts’ view that the photos are authentic.

On the rifle in the BYP, the loop for the rifle strap is on the bottom of the rifle while the rifle found on the Sixth floor of the Book Depository had loops/straps on the side. I’ll post a photo later if I can find comparisons.

The remaining controversy regarding the BYP is, who took the pictures if not Marina? She has given very inconsistent testimony on the photos which suggests that either she lied about taking the pictures or she has a very poor memory.

"I’ll post a photo later if I can find comparisons."

It'd be great if you could post the photo showing the visible differences between the BYP rifle and the TSBD rifle.
It seems really important.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #408 on: November 21, 2021, 12:55:31 AM »
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Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
Why ask the question if you have already decided the answer?
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The first photo alterationist was Lee Harvey Oswald -- he wouldn't even admit that the face was his.
Just stuffing words there.
Is that supposed to be legal testimony?....It's not.
In June 2018 I started a BY photo thread....
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,863.msg18903.html#msg18903
I believe I was called "a mindless dog barking in the night". Cute.
I never claimed I had any answers...just only asking the questions....
Why would someone go to such pronounced lengths to incriminate themself?

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #409 on: November 21, 2021, 02:10:52 AM »
Most people don’t forget details of the first time they did something. Especially if it was for an unusual occasion as strange as Lee’s backyard photos. How often did Lee ask her to take pictures of him posing with guns? Rare and emotionally stressful events aren’t easily forgotten.

No one in the film argues that the photos are fake.

The fact that they brought up the Backyard Photos while discussing the inconsistencies with the rifle imply that the producers of JFK Revisited accept that the BYP are authentic.

Then why question why Marina can't remember how many pictures that she took?

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #410 on: November 21, 2021, 03:58:06 AM »
Then why question why Marina can't remember how many pictures that she took?

Because it could mean she didn’t tell the truth.

If your spouse asks you to take pictures of her posing with guns, would you easily forget major details about that event?
« Last Edit: November 21, 2021, 03:58:35 AM by Jon Banks »

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #411 on: November 21, 2021, 03:59:41 AM »
As I've posted in another thread, the Oswald Backyard photos went under rigorous forensic photo analysis just a few years ago and every photo was proven to be 100% authentic with absolutely no forgery. Forged photos from the 60's would be easy to identify, unlike from today, with the best computer technology that can alter photos making it more difficult to ascertain if they are indeed legitimate. Obviously Marina had to take them because Oswald wasn't really close to other people who would have taken them for him.       

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #412 on: November 21, 2021, 04:02:41 AM »
It's pretty clear from Marina's HSCA testimony that she had no idea how many Backyard photos existed or how to use an Imperial Reflex Camera.

She wasn't able to say if she took 1, 2, 3, or 4 pictures (there were at least four).

She couldn't explain to the HSCA how to operate the camera (strange that she wouldn't remember the details of the first time she ever used a camera).

Still, she probably did take the photos but if that's true, why has her testimony been so inconsistent?

Most likely she wanted to distance herself from any involvement with Lee so she played dumb. People do this all the time.