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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: An Important New Find Regarding Rose Cherami
« Reply #119 on: May 24, 2021, 11:13:53 PM »
There is no evidence she had any foreknowledge.

"Evidence"... since when did evidence matter? So many are FoS, "in it" to pursue publishing profit or merely attention.

The 1957 article describes Melba Christine as age 30 and the 1960 article as age 33. Her gravestone indicates 1923 as the year of her birth.

https://jfkfacts.org/comment-of-the-week-10/#comment-843927


Fred, you know what you know, and when the evidence is with you, I'm with you.

Would I have to fill an entire bus with people who either met Oswald or DeMorhrenschildt or were one person removed, and later tangled or tangoed with Bush, to persuade you from moving to, "I don't know" from your present position? Especially if you buy the narrative of "Oswald, lone assassin, his best friend in Dallas was DeMohrenschildt."

The list of names graduated from Andover in the subsequent three years. They are pictured above the A.U.V. secret society house they all resided in. Hooker was DeMohrenschildt's oil exploration business partner, his mother married DeMohrenschildt's brother in 1936. Bush was an usher in Hooker's wedding. After Hooker died in 1967, Bush escorted his daughter down the aisle in her 1972 church wedding. Macomber was best man in Bush's sister's 1946 wedding, and in Tom Devine's 1973 wedding. E. Howard Hunt's clearance to review 1963 diplomatic cables related to the murders of the Diem brothers, was approved by Macomber, a former CIA agent and Sen. John Sherman Cooper (S&B at Yale) staffer, who was hustled off to Turkey by Dept. of State in reaction to news that Hunt forged cables to impugn JFK's rep.

Devine lived in the Sigma Chi frat house @ M.I.T. with 16 other frat brothers. One was Garry Coit, Priscilla's CIA handler.
Devine reported nine contacts with DeMohrenschildt between April 25, 1963 and the end of May. His initial meeting was two weeks after DeMohrenschildt described joking with Oswald, "Lee, how could you miss?" in reaction to news of the shooting at Edwin Walker. On that same day, Joseph F Dryer said he also met with DeMohrenschildt and Clemard Charles. Devine, Dryer, and Macomber were friends growing up in Rochester.

https://sigmachi.mit.edu/docs/beaver_sigs/1946_bsig_vol1946_no1.pdf




From "Our man in Haiti" by Joan Mellen


After I discovered from Devine's 1944 high school yearbook that Dryer's brother Peter had been a member (20 boys) of Devine's K-8 class before departing for Choate, I wrote to Joan to inquire whether Joseph Dryer had mentioned Devine.





Billy Joe Lord to President Carter, March, 1977 :

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=9963#relPageId=175

And...




Henry Hurt's wife is Bemiss's cousin.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1989/08/15/bed-breakfast-a-la-bush/28b369d3-ff93-4bd4-9759-a220c45978f5/
BED BREAKFAST A LA BUSH
Aug 15, 1989 — ... W. Moseley, and childhood friend FitzGerald Bemiss -- to name a few. ... The Bushes invited Pettis and her husband, Ben Roberson, to stay with ... Bush's family has been spending summers at Kennebunkport since the ...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2006/09/bushes200609
43+41=84 |
Jun 4, 2008 — Is he George H. W. Bush or George W. Bush? ... From Washington to Houston to Kennebunkport and back, shaky second- and thirdhand ... When I ask FitzGerald Bemiss, one of 41's oldest friends from childhood summers in ...

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/88891802/langbourne-meade-williams



https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=145503#relPageId=135&search=beamis_and%20hotels
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Online Fred Litwin

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Did Dr. Wayne Owens hear Rose Cherami Predict the JFK Assassination?
« Reply #120 on: May 25, 2021, 04:11:11 PM »
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-dr-wayne-owens-hear-rose-cherami-predict-the-jfk-assassination

Did Dr. Wayne Owens Hear Rose Cherami Predict the JFK Assassination?
One conspiracy theorist maintains that Dr. Owens heard her talk about the assassination before it happened. But, is this true? Well, the truth is somewhat different.
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Online Fred Litwin

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Did Rose Cherami Ever Work for Jack Ruby?
« Reply #121 on: May 26, 2021, 05:14:52 PM »
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-rose-cherami-ever-work-for-jack-ruby

There is not one scintilla of evidence that Rose Cherami ever worked for Jack Ruby.

Online Fred Litwin

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Did Rose Cherami Watch the Dallas Motorcade on Television?
« Reply #122 on: May 27, 2021, 05:42:05 PM »
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-rose-cherami-watch-the-dallas-motorcade-on-television

Yes, on conspiracy theorist actually believes this. I publish the memo where she got this from. Another
conspiracy theorist makes an excuse for her. It's all quite ridiculous.

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: An Important New Find Regarding Rose Cherami
« Reply #123 on: May 27, 2021, 06:37:35 PM »
Dan,

All we have are claims made by Fruge and Weiss long after her death.  Neither of them filed any reports about her supposed claim at the time she supposedly made it.

So the various testimonies/statements made by Fruge, Weiss and Magruder are not to be considered evidence of any kind?

Only Fruge would be required to submit a report and, to be quite honest, it really doesn't look good he didn't file some kind of report considering he is meant to have chartered a plane to take them all to Houston in an attempt to confirm Cherami's claims of a big drug deal going down.
How Fruge hoped to get away without filing a report on such an large and expensive investigation is beyond me.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: An Important New Find Regarding Rose Cherami
« Reply #124 on: May 27, 2021, 07:45:19 PM »
So the various testimonies/statements made by Fruge, Weiss and Magruder are not to be considered evidence of any kind?

Only Fruge would be required to submit a report and, to be quite honest, it really doesn't look good he didn't file some kind of report considering he is meant to have chartered a plane to take them all to Houston in an attempt to confirm Cherami's claims of a big drug deal going down.
How Fruge hoped to get away without filing a report on such an large and expensive investigation is beyond me.

My only point is that there is no real reason to believe that Cherami ever foretold of an assassination in Dallas.  It's entirely possible that she never uttered one syllable about Dallas before the assassination and this thing was made up by these guys after she passed away.

Also, ask yourself, why would ANY conspirators trust someone like her with any of this stuff beforehand?

Online Gerry Down

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Re: An Important New Find Regarding Rose Cherami
« Reply #125 on: May 27, 2021, 08:08:18 PM »
Lots of people thought JFK would be assassinated in Dallas. Rose Cherami might just have been one. JFK thought he might be shot there - he said he was entering "nut country".

So even if Rose Cherami did "predict" that JFK would be assassinated in Dallas, which I think Litwin was displayed quiet well she didn't, it wouldn't make any difference anyway.