The First Shot

[John Corbett]

So you are saying that your spidey sense that Connally was referring to the turn at z164 as the turn to look at JFK even though he makes no attempt to look at JFK

Just how did you determine he was not trying to look at JFK when he turned.

even though Mary Woodward said that was before the first shot (along with a few dozen others).  You aren’t relying on the zfilm. You are relying on your spidey senses.  I prefer evidence.

I don't give a crap what Mary Woodward said unless you can establish what she said is correct. I'm not relying on my senses. I am relying on JBC's senses which are corrobrorated by the Z-film. I think JBC would know if he heard a shot before he felt the shot that hit him in the back.

You also have a strange view of what constitutes corroboration. Any independent evidence can provide corroboration.

The fact that it seems strange to you doesn't concern me in the least.

[Zeon Mason]

At Z255, although SS agents are looking back at the TSBD, there is one man in backseat of the car  looking forward and smiling What? 😳

[Andrew Mason]

Just how did you determine he was not trying to look at JFK when he turned.

Because his eyes are looking forward right and he knows that JFK is behind him:


If he was trying to see JFK he would turn his eyes toward JFK so that the light reflecting off JFK could enter through the pupils of his eyes.

I don't give a crap what Mary Woodward said unless you can establish what she said is correct. I'm not relying on my senses. I am relying on JBC's senses which are corrobrorated by the Z-film. I think JBC would know if he heard a shot before he felt the shot that hit him in the back.

Mary Woodward s corroborated by many other witnesses as to the time of the first shot being after z186.

[Andrew Mason]

Because his eyes are looking forward right and he knows that JFK is behind him:


If he was trying to see JFK he would turn his eyes toward JFK so that the light reflecting off JFK could enter through the pupils of his eyes.
Mary Woodward is corroborated by many other witnesses as to the time of the first shot being after z186.

[John Corbett]

JBC was a big man in a small seat and his movement was restricted when trying to make a normal turn. It was only after he received a severe gunshot wound that his severe gyrations in reaction to his wound turned him completely around in his seat.

As for Mary Woodward and all these other witnesses you site, the reason I have so little faith in them is because people only remember things well that they made a mental note of at the time. I see no reason to think Mary Woodward would have made a mental note of where JFK was at the time she heard the first shot. That's something she would have had to mentally reconstruct when asked about that later. At that point, she would have just been guessing. There's only one witness that didn't have that problem. Zapruder's camera. That is the witness I trust above all others. That is the witness I measure the credibility of all other witnesses against. If a human witness tells me one thing and the Z-film tells me something else I'm going with the Z-film every time.