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Online Tom Graves

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1463 on: December 06, 2025, 08:54:08 PM »
You are imagining head turns that don’t exist in the case of Rosemary Willis, JFK and Nellie.

Rosemary Willis started to look away from the Presidential limo back towards the Texas School Book Depository at Z-140.

JFK began quickly turning his head to his left at Z-143.

Nellie began a quick sweeping head turn to her right at Z-144.

If you can't see this, perhaps you should get a new pair of glasses.

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John Chism and Mary Woodward recalled that the last right head turn and wave of JFK was before the first shot.

The operative words are "last" and "recalled."

Regarding the former, JFK's last (as in final) wave began around Z-173, right before he passed behind the Stemmons Freeway sign and was hit in the lower neck/upper back by Oswald's second shot at Z-222.

Regarding the later, Chism and Woodward "recalled" this several hours, days, weeks, months, or years after the startling and traumatic event.

FWIW, in Z-133 we can see that JFK's right hand is near his head because he's just finished waving to someone (Woodward?), which wave he must have begun before Oswald's first, missing-everything shot half-a-second earlier at "Z-124."

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z133.jpg

Anyone with normal vision (evidently not you) can see that he lowers his hand over the next couple of frames until it's all the way back down at Z-150.




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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1464 on: December 06, 2025, 09:15:25 PM »
Rosemary Willis started to look away from the Presidential limo back towards the Texas School Book Depository at Z-140.

JFK began quickly turning his head to his left at Z-143.

Nellie began a quick sweeping head turn to her right at Z-144.

If you can't see this, perhaps you should get a new pair of glasses.

The operative word is "recalled."

They "recalled" this several hours, days, weeks, months, or years after the startling and traumatic event.

Regardless, in Z-133 we can see that JFK's right hand is near his head because he's just finished waving to someone (Woodward?), which wave he began before Oswald's first, missing-everything shot half-a-second earlier at "Z-124."

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z133.jpg

Anyone with normal vision (evidently not you) can see that he lowers his hand over the next couple of frames.


   The Willis Girl is looking to her (R). Stop attaching the TSBD to her. 

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1465 on: December 06, 2025, 09:26:33 PM »
The Willis girl is looking to her right.

Correct.

She's not looking at JFK and Jackie, she looking in the direction of Clint Hill (behind whom is the TSBD).

Thanks for corroborating that.
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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1466 on: December 06, 2025, 10:56:18 PM »
Correct.

She's not looking at JFK and Jackie, she looking in the direction of Clint Hill (behind whom is the TSBD).

Thanks for corroborating that.

  Yes, "to the (R)". You continue attaching the TSBD to this. Stop trying to pass your opinion off as being a fact.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1467 on: December 06, 2025, 11:20:39 PM »
You continue attaching the TSBD to this. Stop trying to pass your opinion off as being a fact.

Comrade Storing,

My bad.

Rosemary Willis from about Z-145 on was looking, not at JFK and Jackie, but in the direction of Secret Service Agent Clint Hill, behind whom, of course, was the TSBD.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1468 on: December 07, 2025, 02:51:54 PM »
Comrade Storing,

My bad.

Rosemary Willis from about Z-145 on was looking, not at JFK and Jackie, but in the direction of Secret Service Agent Clint Hill, behind whom, of course, was the TSBD.

-- Tom

    How about the Dal-Tex Bld? Was the Willis girl looking at that too?
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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1469 on: December 08, 2025, 12:50:42 AM »
How about the Dal-Tex Bld? Was the Willis girl looking at that too?

"The Willis girl"?

You mean Rosemary Willis?

Sure, Rosemary Willis probably looked at the Dal-Tex Building, too.

Why not?

Afterall, she, like many people who heard Oswald's first, missing-everything, somewhat muffled shot at "Z-124," thought it had come from the general TSBD-DalTex direction.

The important thing is that she had stopped looking at JFK and Jackie and started looking in that direction by Z-140, about a second after said missing-everything shot.

-- Tom
« Last Edit: December 08, 2025, 01:09:58 AM by Tom Graves »