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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #270 on: July 19, 2020, 03:39:32 AM »
Is this still America?

Consider the following facts:

1) The Republican National Committee under Trump is set to deploy tens of thousands of likely armed, unbadged goons to try to intimidate voters of color from exercising their right of suffrage;

2) Both Border Patrol and ICE are functioning as largely unaccountable enforcers of the president’s personal whims and interpretations of law, detaining citizens for hours without explanation or formal charges, and operating in direct conflict with local mayors and governors;

3) Border Patrol and ICE both have stridently bigoted, conservative organizational cultures hostile to most people of color and more liberal, urban areas generally–and they are well aware that their powers will likely be curtailed under a possible future Democratic administration;

4) Trump continues to ramp up rhetoric against nonexistent “voter fraud” in liberal areas. His focus has primarily been on vote-by-mail as a result of the COVID pandemic, but imaginary in-person voter impersonation fraud among communities of color in Democratic-leaning cities has long been a Republican obsession. A senior legal adviser to the Trump campaign recently declared that Trump would win even California if voting were “fair,” showing just how deeply the conspiratorial thinking around this issue runs in top GOP circles.

5) Acting Department of Homeland Security chief Chad Wolf appears to have no constraints on his behavior or his overheated rhetoric, and that the Trump Administration is planning to scale the use of border patrol agents as a conservative paramilitary nationwide.

6) Donald Trump and his campaign team know by now that absent some explosive scandal around Biden or other unpredictable event to change the fundamentals of the race, the president’s only path to victory lies not in persuading a majority of voters but in choosing his own electorate by suppressing the votes of the majority of Americans who despise him.

Put all of this together, and it opens the possibility of a terrifying abuse of power. We could end up seeing armed private contractors hired by the RNC and affiliated conservative organizations to intimidate Democratic-leaning voters, bolstered by camouflage-wearing taxpayer-funded rifle-toting border patrol agents aggressively checking papers of every voter in line in the guise of “securing against voter fraud” on the president’s orders. This would be happening during the most tense presidential election in our lifetimes during a raging pandemic, often in lines in which voters must wait 8 to 10 hours to vote due to restricted polling places in minority communities–also a blatant suppression attempt enabled by the Supreme Court’s voiding of many of the protections of the Voting Rights Act. The likelihood that these actions would be met with immediate enraged protest would be very high. Election Day violence unheard of since the Civil Rights era could ensue, which would give Trump an excuse to instigate further crackdowns across the country as election day continues. Federal agents could forseeably be sent in to attempt to stop the counting of mail-in ballots in the days following the election on presidential orders. No need for a Brooks Brothers Riot if you can just send in an armed federal paramilitary, instead.

Absent some form of preventive action by states, municipalities, the Democratic Party and left-affiliated organizations, there is very little to stop Trump, Attorney General Bill Barr and Acting DHS Secretary Wolf from attempting any or all of this.

And unlike in normal political circumstances where a party that loses an election can hope and expect to retool and win elections in the future, Republicans know that if they get wiped out in 2020, demographic realities mean it could be the last hurrah for this version of the GOP at a federal level. If Democrats were to follow up a landslide victory with efforts to secure a voting bill of rights, an elimination of gerrymandering and the filibuster, and a rebalancing of the Senate, the courts and the electoral college, the Republican Party would not be able to regain serious federal power in its current form without a realignment. Donald Trump himself would literally be in danger of going to jail. The Republican incentive in November would be to pull out all the stops to prevent this from happening, especially in a census year.

Perhaps these fears are paranoid. But when left organizers warned that ICE and Border Patrol were being converted into an authoritarian paramilitary security force and demanded that they be disbanded and abolished, self-proclaimed serious people in politics tended to dismiss their concerns as so much overheated partisanship. One of the most important lessons of the Trump administration has been that whatever you fear they might do, expect them to do worse if they can get away it.

Far better to be prepared for such eventualities and be ready to fight back with all available legal means on Election Day, than to be caught surprised by the next unthinkable transgression. If Trump and his cronies can create authoritarian chaos on Election Day to intimidate Democratic voters, they likely will. Portland was just the first step.

Source?

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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #271 on: July 19, 2020, 03:41:33 AM »
Source?

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The Trump presidency.


Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #273 on: July 19, 2020, 06:12:31 AM »
The Trump presidency.

Your personal observations, or stuff you've read somewhere?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #275 on: July 19, 2020, 06:58:22 AM »
  The above is Ignorant. The Majority of America believes Kids should be Physically Back In School.

Evidence, please.

Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #276 on: July 19, 2020, 05:02:00 PM »
  The Hysteria posted above should be directed at Portland, Oregon. Another Dem run city where like the 1906 San Fran earthquake, these Elected Numb Nuts are content waiting for the Mobs that Pillage their streets nightly to suffer from Burn Out and simply go home. Problem is: (1) This ain't "06", (2) They are Over 50 Days into the Continuous Mayhem, and (3) The Mobs just TORCHED the Police Union HQ........ And "Fuzzy" Joe wants to Defund The Police?
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #277 on: July 19, 2020, 05:05:40 PM »
  The Hysteria posted above should be directed at Portland, Oregon. Another Dem run city where like the 1906 San Fran earthquake, these Elected Numb Nuts are content waiting for the Mobs that Pillage their streets nightly to suffer from Burn Out and simply go home. Problem is: (1) This ain't "06", (2) They are Over 50 Days into the Continuous Mayhem, and (3) The Mobs just TORCHED the Police Union HQ........ And "Fuzzy" Joe wants to Defund The Police?

And "Fuzzy" Joe wants to Defund The Police?

Look, we all understand your problem. Whatever BS you guys try against Joe Biden ain't working, so we fully understand you are getting frustrated.

But if you want to continue to tell outright lies, please try at least to be somewhat creative because this crap is boring.

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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #278 on: July 19, 2020, 05:18:37 PM »
And "Fuzzy" Joe wants to Defund The Police?

Look, we all understand your problem. Whatever BS you guys try against Joe Biden ain't working, so we fully understand you are getting frustrated.

But if you want to continue to tell outright lies, please try at least to be somewhat creative because this crap is boring.

Exactly. Like the WH lunatic Storing believes if you keep repeating the same lie, people will ultimately it. It’s what conmen/grifters do.

Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #279 on: July 19, 2020, 05:20:16 PM »
  Semantics. "Divert" = Defund. Once again, "judge a pitcher by the Reaction of the Hitter". The Dem's finally figured out the Overwhelming VOTING Majority of Americans want Nothing to do with cutting the $$$ that goes to funding the cops. Hence, the Dem's running away from Initially calling for: (1) "ABOLISH" the Police, to (2) "DEFUND" The Police, and NOW Fuzzy Joe's (3) "DIVERT" $$$ from the Police. This is a Semantics Game the Dem's play while having their wet finger in the wind of public opinion.  In the meantime, Trump does what he says. He is cleaning up the absolute Mayhem that has been going on in Portland for close to 2 months running. Ma & Pa Kettles across this country are encouraging him to continuing doing this while having their Biscuits & Gravy at the kitchen table.
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