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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #260 on: July 19, 2020, 12:26:24 AM »
  "No Biden Issues"?  Sure, IF You rely on Fake News Sources. You Know, the same ones that SOLD YOU the Trump/Russia  BS: And, here You are again Drinking from this same Poisoned Well. "Stupid is as Stupid Does"!
   Just watched a Scientist that uses MATHEMATICAL MODELS of past POTUS Elections/Primaries to forecast the outcome of POTUS Elections. NO SURVEYS, NO PHONE CALLS, NO  BS:. This Gent has nailed the POTUS Winner Correctly in 25 of the last 27 POTUS Elections. Guess who the Mathematical Models/SCIENCE is forecasting to win Nov 3?

Indeed.... No Biden issues, at least not in the real world.

Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #261 on: July 19, 2020, 12:32:05 AM »

  Yeah. Your "Real World" would be that World where someone with Absolutely No Experience is paid MILLIONS/$$$ by Foreign Govts will being Chauffeured to-and-from via AF2.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #262 on: July 19, 2020, 12:35:54 AM »
  Yeah. Your "Real World" would be that World where someone with Absolutely No Experience is paid MILLIONS/$$$ by Foreign Govts will being Chauffeured to-and-from via AF2.

Is that the same real world as where Donald Trump is in massive debt in China (conflict of interest!), Ivanka Trump abuses the office of her daddy to get 7 trademarks for free and the Trump family is using Government planes to travel to business meetings overseas?
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Online Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #263 on: July 19, 2020, 12:45:46 AM »
  "No Biden Issues"?  Sure, IF You rely on Fake News Sources. You Know, the same ones that SOLD YOU the Trump/Russia  BS: And, here You are again Drinking from this same Poisoned Well. "Stupid is as Stupid Does"!
 Just watched a Scientist that uses MATHEMATICAL MODELS of past POTUS Elections/Primaries to forecast the outcome of POTUS Elections. NO SURVEYS, NO PHONE CALLS, NO  BS:. This Gent has nailed the POTUS Winner Correctly in 25 of the last 27 POTUS Elections. Guess who the Mathematical Models/SCIENCE is forecasting to win Nov 3?

 :D :D :D

70,000 Republicans voted against Donald Trump in the Pennsylvania Republican primary during a deadly pandemic. Only 6,000 of his hardcore fans showed up to see him in a 19,000 seat arena in the most conservative city in America. That's the real poll numbers that shows Donald Trump losing in a landslide.

51 million unemployed Americans, 142,777 dead, 3,825,277 coronavirus cases and it's only going to get worse as weeks go by. Nobody in their right mind is going to vote to continue this disaster. Donald Trump has done nothing except bring massive unemployment, death, and infection. People have no national pride under this failure


Public’s Mood Turns Grim; Trump Trails Biden on Most Personal Traits, Major Issues
Just 17% say they are ‘proud’ when thinking about state of the U.S.

     
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/06/30/publics-mood-turns-grim-trump-trails-biden-on-most-personal-traits-major-issues/

Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #264 on: July 19, 2020, 12:47:51 AM »
  Yeah. Your "Real World" would be that World where someone with Absolutely No Experience is paid MILLIONS/$$$ by Foreign Govts will being Chauffeured to-and-from via AF2.

Kinda like the lunatic in chief currently occupying the WH right now huh?

Online Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #265 on: July 19, 2020, 12:55:26 AM »
Yeah. Your "Real World" would be that World where someone with Absolutely No Experience is paid MILLIONS/$$$ by Foreign Govts will being Chauffeured to-and-from via AF2.

That would be imbecile daughter Ivanka getting freebies from the Chinese. Zero experience and she thinks she's a "foreign policy expert".


Ivanka Trump won China trademarks days before her father's reversal on ZTE
Watchdog group says the timing of the approvals ‘raises significant questions about corruption’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/28/ivanka-trump-won-china-trademarks-donald-trump-zte-reversal

Ivanka Trump’s Brand Received Five New Trademarks From China This Month
https://fortune.com/2019/01/21/ivanka-trump-china-trademarks/

China grants 18 trademarks in 2 months to Trump, daughter
https://apnews.com/0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727

Donald Trump’s Debt to China
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-debt-to-china

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/06/politics/ivanka-trump-trademarks/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #266 on: July 19, 2020, 01:55:20 AM »
The devil has come to life. Check out the horns illuminated in the light globe. The evil sinister face to go along with it.
#TrumpFailsAmerica is trending on Twitter.   


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #267 on: July 19, 2020, 03:02:04 AM »
Trump Threatens America #TrumpThreatensAmerica

Mike Pence attempted to scare the public by claiming, "You won't be safe in Joe Biden's America." The reality is that Mike Pence and Donald Trump have put our nation in greater danger than ever before. The latest footage of the Secret Police, AKA Trump's Gestapo in Portland shows just how far we have fallen. Trump threatens freedom. Trump threatens democracy. Trump threatens America.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #268 on: July 19, 2020, 03:03:04 AM »
  Yeah. Your "Real World" would be that World where someone with Absolutely No Experience is paid MILLIONS/$$$ by Foreign Govts will being Chauffeured to-and-from via AF2.

https://twitter.com/ahlookatweet/status/1283970561325125636


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/17/us/head-nypd-union-qanon-mug/index.html
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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #269 on: July 19, 2020, 03:32:13 AM »
Is this still America?

Consider the following facts:

1) The Republican National Committee under Trump is set to deploy tens of thousands of likely armed, unbadged goons to try to intimidate voters of color from exercising their right of suffrage;

2) Both Border Patrol and ICE are functioning as largely unaccountable enforcers of the president’s personal whims and interpretations of law, detaining citizens for hours without explanation or formal charges, and operating in direct conflict with local mayors and governors;

3) Border Patrol and ICE both have stridently bigoted, conservative organizational cultures hostile to most people of color and more liberal, urban areas generally–and they are well aware that their powers will likely be curtailed under a possible future Democratic administration;

4) Trump continues to ramp up rhetoric against nonexistent “voter fraud” in liberal areas. His focus has primarily been on vote-by-mail as a result of the COVID pandemic, but imaginary in-person voter impersonation fraud among communities of color in Democratic-leaning cities has long been a Republican obsession. A senior legal adviser to the Trump campaign recently declared that Trump would win even California if voting were “fair,” showing just how deeply the conspiratorial thinking around this issue runs in top GOP circles.

5) Acting Department of Homeland Security chief Chad Wolf appears to have no constraints on his behavior or his overheated rhetoric, and that the Trump Administration is planning to scale the use of border patrol agents as a conservative paramilitary nationwide.

6) Donald Trump and his campaign team know by now that absent some explosive scandal around Biden or other unpredictable event to change the fundamentals of the race, the president’s only path to victory lies not in persuading a majority of voters but in choosing his own electorate by suppressing the votes of the majority of Americans who despise him.

Put all of this together, and it opens the possibility of a terrifying abuse of power. We could end up seeing armed private contractors hired by the RNC and affiliated conservative organizations to intimidate Democratic-leaning voters, bolstered by camouflage-wearing taxpayer-funded rifle-toting border patrol agents aggressively checking papers of every voter in line in the guise of “securing against voter fraud” on the president’s orders. This would be happening during the most tense presidential election in our lifetimes during a raging pandemic, often in lines in which voters must wait 8 to 10 hours to vote due to restricted polling places in minority communities–also a blatant suppression attempt enabled by the Supreme Court’s voiding of many of the protections of the Voting Rights Act. The likelihood that these actions would be met with immediate enraged protest would be very high. Election Day violence unheard of since the Civil Rights era could ensue, which would give Trump an excuse to instigate further crackdowns across the country as election day continues. Federal agents could forseeably be sent in to attempt to stop the counting of mail-in ballots in the days following the election on presidential orders. No need for a Brooks Brothers Riot if you can just send in an armed federal paramilitary, instead.

Absent some form of preventive action by states, municipalities, the Democratic Party and left-affiliated organizations, there is very little to stop Trump, Attorney General Bill Barr and Acting DHS Secretary Wolf from attempting any or all of this.

And unlike in normal political circumstances where a party that loses an election can hope and expect to retool and win elections in the future, Republicans know that if they get wiped out in 2020, demographic realities mean it could be the last hurrah for this version of the GOP at a federal level. If Democrats were to follow up a landslide victory with efforts to secure a voting bill of rights, an elimination of gerrymandering and the filibuster, and a rebalancing of the Senate, the courts and the electoral college, the Republican Party would not be able to regain serious federal power in its current form without a realignment. Donald Trump himself would literally be in danger of going to jail. The Republican incentive in November would be to pull out all the stops to prevent this from happening, especially in a census year.

Perhaps these fears are paranoid. But when left organizers warned that ICE and Border Patrol were being converted into an authoritarian paramilitary security force and demanded that they be disbanded and abolished, self-proclaimed serious people in politics tended to dismiss their concerns as so much overheated partisanship. One of the most important lessons of the Trump administration has been that whatever you fear they might do, expect them to do worse if they can get away it.

Far better to be prepared for such eventualities and be ready to fight back with all available legal means on Election Day, than to be caught surprised by the next unthinkable transgression. If Trump and his cronies can create authoritarian chaos on Election Day to intimidate Democratic voters, they likely will. Portland was just the first step.

 

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