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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2020, 01:52:12 AM »
Looks like I was wrong. When asked some time back by John T. to estimate the number of USA COVID-19 deaths by the end of July I predicted about 140,000. That figure has been reached two weeks early so the figure will be closer to 150,000 it seems. I did predict 200,000 by the election but as the rate now appears higher than I had thought, due largely to a preemptive opening in certain states, that too is likely now an underestimate.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2020, 03:17:41 AM »
The despair grows louder.

Trump replaces Parscale as campaign manager

President Donald Trump has orchestrated a shakeup of his struggling reelection campaign with less than four months to go, elevating Bill Stepien to campaign manager and demoting Brad Parscale, who had been serving in that role.

Trump posted to Facebook Wednesday evening that Parscale will remain on the campaign as a senior adviser.

The move comes amid falling poll numbers and mounting worries over the president’s political prospects, with Trump himself expressing concern that he’s losing to Joe Biden.

Parscale has been under the microscope in recent weeks, particularly following Trump’s half-capacity rally in Tulsa, Okla. Parscale was blamed internally for the rally after boasting beforehand that over 1 million people had signed up to attend. In private, the president repeatedly criticized Parscale for the episode.

Trump began informing advisers of the shakeup Wednesday before making the announcement official.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2020, 03:35:59 AM »
The despair grows louder.

Trump replaces Parscale as campaign manager

President Donald Trump has orchestrated a shakeup of his struggling reelection campaign with less than four months to go, elevating Bill Stepien to campaign manager and demoting Brad Parscale, who had been serving in that role.

Trump posted to Facebook Wednesday evening that Parscale will remain on the campaign as a senior adviser.

The move comes amid falling poll numbers and mounting worries over the president’s political prospects, with Trump himself expressing concern that he’s losing to Joe Biden.

Parscale has been under the microscope in recent weeks, particularly following Trump’s half-capacity rally in Tulsa, Okla. Parscale was blamed internally for the rally after boasting beforehand that over 1 million people had signed up to attend. In private, the president repeatedly criticized Parscale for the episode.

Trump began informing advisers of the shakeup Wednesday before making the announcement official.

Tick Tock, Tick Tock ...

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2020, 03:49:07 AM »
Storing apparently was left out of the,loop! ;)

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2020, 04:11:35 AM »
Storing apparently was left out of the,loop! ;)

Kellyanne must have had Storing working on those "internal poll numbers" :D

 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #85 on: July 16, 2020, 04:16:41 AM »
“I alone can fix it”.

“I’m the chosen one”.

137,000 dead Americans.

American economy wrecked.

Rioting throughout our country.

What’s he fixed?

Is your life better than 4 years ago?

A reality tv flunky who has failed at everything in his life has failed America and killed Americans.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2020, 05:06:00 AM »
“I alone can fix it”.

“I’m the chosen one”.

137,000 dead Americans.

American economy wrecked.

Rioting throughout our country.

What’s he fixed?

Is your life better than 4 years ago?

A reality tv flunky who has failed at everything in his life has failed America and killed Americans.

Premeditated Cruelty is in vogue, Katie Miller is openly proud she is dead inside, no ability to feel empathy, blames caged children of asylum seeking parents for "not assimilating", Pence sez, "gotta add her to my staff as public liason"! Stephen Miller falls in love with her.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/katie-miller-says-unmoved-by-child-detention-facility-visit-book-2020-7
Katie Miller was unmoved by child detention facility visit: new ...
Jul 7, 2020 - Miller responded: "No, but I believe if you come to America you should assimilate. Why do we need to have 'Little Havana'?" Katie Miller. Vice ...

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-mary-trumps-interview-abc-news-george-stephanopoulos/story?id=71803869
abcnews.go.com › Politics › story
2 hours ago - Trump's niece calls on him to resign Mary Trump speaks exclusively to ABC News about President Trump for ... TRUMP: He had no empathy.

Death gets a new lease, just hours after Mary Trump's uncle spent time with "Killer" Kemp!:
Including at was recently the busiest airport in the U.S.:
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https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/local-mask-mandates-suspended-by-gov-kemps-executive-order

Local mask mandates 'suspended' by Gov. Kemp's executive order
Governor Brian Kemp is overruling local governments that have issued mandatory mask laws in a new executive over issued Wednesday.
FOX 5 Atlanta -1 hour ago

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/07/15/in-atlanta-trump-will-tout-looser-environmental-rules-to-jolt-economy-by-speeding-up-road-projects/
In Atlanta, Trump touts looser environmental rules to jolt economy by speeding up road projects
COVID-19 pandemic and GOP fight between Loeffler and Collins provide backdrops for quick Georgia visit.


Honesty and integrity in the Trump campaign "train wreck"? Fuggetabboutit!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Stepien
Bill Stepien (born 1978) is a Republican political operative and former White House political director in the Trump administration. Stepien managed both of Chris Christie's gubernatorial campaigns and served as his Deputy Chief of Staff before being fired in 2014 after Christie said he "lost confidence" in Stepien's judgment.[1]

After Donald Trump secured the Republican nomination, Stepien joined the presidential campaign in August 2016 and was later named the White House political director during the Trump presidential transition.

On July 15, 2020, it was announced that Stepien would replace Brad Parscale as the campaign manager for the Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign [2]

Contents
1   Early career
2   Chris Christie campaign and administration
2.1   Fort Lee lane closure scandal : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Stepien#Fort_Lee_lane_closure_scandal

New Trump 2020 "General" had no empathy when he participated in delaying GW Bridge traffic for hours in a political revenge scam, delaying emergency vehicles and all other inbound traffic from Ft. Lee, NJ to northern Manhattan.

How did you think Comey's replacement at FBI got his job?
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https://www.wnyc.org/story/ethics-question-christies-hiring-fbi-director-nominee-bridgegate-attorney/

Christie's Hiring of FBI Nominee as Bridgegate Attorney .
Jul 24, 2017 - FBI director nominee Christopher Wray's agreement to represent Gov. Chris Christie in Bridgegate came 11 months after he actually started ...

Whaddya think is going to happen between Trump's election loss in November, and January 20, 2021?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lee_lane_closure_scandal
Bridgegate,[1][2] is a U.S. political scandal in which a staff member and political appointees of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie colluded to create traffic jams in Fort Lee, New Jersey, by closing lanes at the main toll plaza[3][4] for the upper level of the George Washington Bridge.[5]
.....The problems began on Monday, September 9, 2013, when two of three toll lanes for a local street entrance were closed during morning rush hour. Local officials, emergency services, and the public were not notified of the lane closures, which Fort Lee declared a threat to public safety.[6] The resulting back-ups and gridlock on local streets ended only when the two lanes were reopened on Friday, September 13, 2013, by an order from Port Authority Executive Director and Democrat from New York, Patrick Foye. He said that the "hasty and ill-informed decision" could have endangered lives and violated federal and state laws.[7]


"Bridgegate" entrance, customary three rush-hour toll lanes (20, 22, 24)

First Amendment... for confederate battle flag wavers, but not for BLM peaceful protestors when it's time to use a bible as a campaign prop,  or for authors Mary Trump, Michael Cohen, John Bolton, Omarosa, or a for a duty bound Lt. Colonel Vindman, formerly serving at NSA, or for his uninvolved twin brother.

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/07/13/as-vindman-retires-army-officers-demand-lawmaker-stops-holding-up-their-promotions/
As Vindman retires, Army officers demand lawmaker stops holding up their promotions
Meghann Myers - 2 Days Ago
...Sen. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill., has threatened to bar the promotions of more than 1,100 field-grade officers until she gets confirmation from Defense Secretary Mark Esper that his department did not meddle in the promotion chances of Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a former member of the National Security Council who testified during President Donald Trump’s impeachment proceedings.

“I am writing to you to ask that you to reverse course on using them and their families as hostages in a political dispute between you and the President which does not, and should not, involve them,” Timothy Parlatore, who represents retired Chief Special Warfare Operator Eddie Gallagher, wrote in the letter. “The U.S. military is rightly an apolitical institution and elected officials on both sides of the political aisle must ensure that they are not dragging our military members into the middle of a partisan fight.”....

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-race-face-mask-school-roger-stone/

Transcript: Trump on masks, reopening schools, race and pardoning Roger Stone
JULY 15, 2020 / 2:36 PM / CBS NEWS
.....You say that's affecting the stock market right now?

Oh, absolutely. The stock market would be much higher, except for the fact that if he got in, the stock market will crash. You will be in a depression —

You will be in a depression like in 1929 if Joe Biden gets in. He's gonna put back all the regulations. He's gonna triple everybody's taxes. You'll be in a depression the likes of which you've never seen before.

President Trump, back in 2015, you said the Confederate battle flag belongs in a museum. Do you still believe that?

All I say is freedom of speech. It's very simple. My attitude is freedom of speech. Very strong views on the Confederate flag. With me, it's freedom of speech. Very simple. Like it, don't like it. It's freedom of speech.

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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/495713-trump-company-lawyer-warned-michael-cohen-not-to-write-tell-all-book
Trump company lawyer warned Michael Cohen not to write 'tell-all' book:
May 1, 2020 - ... to Michael Cohen asking him to stop writing a tell-all book about his time working as ... Michael Cohen writing tell-all book about Trump: report ... He has saved a lot of them for when the time is right and the time is now right. ... he would be released early from prison due to the novel coronavirus pandemic, ...

Would you be comfortable with your supporters displaying the Confederate battle flag at political events?

You know, it depends on what your definition is. But I am comfortable with freedom of speech. It's very simple.

But you understand why the flag is a painful symbol for many people because it's a reminder of slavery.

Well, people love it and I don't view, I know people that like the Confederate flag and they're not thinking about slavery. I look at NASCAR, you go to NASCAR, you had those flags all over the place. They stopped it. I just think it's freedom of speech, whether it's Confederate flags or Black Lives Matter or anything else you wanna talk about. It's freedom of speech.....

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https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Trump-campaign-files-arbitration-action-against-13155122.php
Trump campaign files arbitration action against Omarosa Manigault Newman
John Wagner, The Washington Post Published 5:09 pm EDT, Tuesday, August 14, 2018
....."It's interesting that he's trying to silence me, so what is he trying to hide? What is he afraid of?" she said on MSNBC. "I think he should be afraid of being exposed as the misogynist, the bigot and the racist that he is."

The Washington Post has not seen a nondisclosure agreement signed by Manigault Newman during the campaign, but copies of other agreements signed by aides include broad prohibitions on behavior and appear to be drawn heavily from similar contracts used by the Trump Organization, the president's family firm.
https://twitter.com/joshgerstein/status/1278385403045675008

Case 1:19-cv-01868-RJL Document 19 Filed 07/01/20 Page 1 of 10 :
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.208668/gov.uscourts.dcd.208668.19.0.pdf

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/13/890647734/judge-frees-mary-trump-from-gag-order-on-new-family-tell-all
Judge Rules Trump's Niece Free to Discuss New Family Tell-All
A New York judge has lifted a restraining order against Mary Trump, niece of President Trump, that had prevented her from speaking publicly about her new ...NPR 2 days ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/us/politics/mary-trump-book.html
Mary Trump's Tell-All Cleared by Judge for Publication
A New York judge ruled on Monday that Mary L. Trump, the niece of President Trump, could legally go ahead with the publication of her explosive tell-all memoir ...2 days ago

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/michael-cohen-back-federal-custody-released-home-confinement/story?id=71696130
Michael Cohen, furloughed from prison in May, back in federal custody after he balks at gag order
Michael Cohen is back in federal custody after having been released to home confinement over COVID-19 concerns.
ABC News 6 days ago

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/michael-cohen-prison-gag-agreement-book-confinement/
POLITICS JULY 9, 2020
Michael Cohen Was Sent Back to Prison After Refusing to Sign a Gag Agreement
Trump’s former fixer is writing a book. His lawyers suggest that’s why he’s back in jail.
.....Cohen teased his book on Twitter last week after a federal judge issued a ruling that allowed Mary Trump, President Trump’s niece, to proceed with publishing a book harshly critical of the president.....

https://www.justsecurity.org/71370/top-experts-bureau-of-prisons-blocking-michael-cohen-book-about-trump-violates-first-amendment/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2020, 02:26:24 PM »
President Donald Trump failed to warn Americans about the coronavirus pandemic at the start and has continued to mislead the public, and some legal experts think he should face criminal prosecution.

There’s ample public evidence that Trump knowingly misled the public about the dangers from COVID-19 because he believed that doing so would advance his re-election efforts, and that some Americans died as a result of those lies and other misconduct, argued former attorney Dean Obeidallah in a new Daily Beast column.

“The question that needs to be asked is: Should a president be held criminally responsible for knowingly failing to inform the American public about the risks associated with a deadly virus during a pandemic because he believes, by doing so, it helps his political fortunes?” Obeidallah wrote. “Any answer but ‘yes’ gives a future president a green light to do the same thing as Trump at the expense of the lives of our fellow Americans.”

Obeidallah asked several former federal prosecutors and a Harvard Law professor whether Trump could or should be prosecuted for his misconduct during the pandemic, and they agreed his actions satisfied the three elements of either involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide — but proving those elements would be nearly impossible.

“Trump had a duty to act as president and violated that by knowingly failing to warn the public about the known threats of the virus,” former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner told Obeidallah.

Kirschner, now an MSNBC analyst, argued the president would have known his actions or failures would likely produce death or serious bodily injury, and that his conduct was a substantial factor in causing the death of others, but Harvard Law professor Laurence Tribe agreed to a point.

“Trump is almost certainly morally responsible for tens of thousands of coronavirus deaths that would not have occurred but for his recklessly misleading public pronouncements and his grossly negligent failures to act rationally on the basis of the medical evidence available to him,” Tribe said.

But, Tribe argued, “proving that Trump caused these deaths beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal trial would be almost impossible.”

Former Watergate prosecutor and current MSNBC legal analyst Jill Wine-Banks told Obeidallah that Trump’s lies were “an impeachable offense,” but probably couldn’t be proven as a crime, and former U.S. attorney and fellow MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance agreed.

“I don’t see a sustainable charge,” Vance said. “[But] I’m not per se ruling that out.

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2020, 03:20:36 PM »
Another 1.3 million Americans applied for unemployment insurance last week, a number barely changed from the prior week and an indication that unemployment remains painfully high in the US.

Where is Royell to tell us how "great" everything is going with Donald Trump?   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2020, 05:18:37 PM »
Looks like I was wrong. When asked some time back by John T. to estimate the number of USA COVID-19 deaths by the end of July I predicted about 140,000. That figure has been reached two weeks early so the figure will be closer to 150,000 it seems. I did predict 200,000 by the election but as the rate now appears higher than I had thought, due largely to a preemptive opening in certain states, that too is likely now an underestimate.
Thank you, Mr. Crow.
1,413 deaths in USA yesterday. 
Meanwhile, back at the ranch - oops- I meant the White House - the latest effort at denial includes bypassing CDC and having HHS receive and report coronavirus numbers, i.e. cases, hospitalizations, deaths. What could  possibly go wrong here?

 

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