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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3840 on: March 03, 2021, 03:52:23 PM »
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Mr. Plant wrote: "Mr. Gailbraith has no clue what he's talking about. The "Liberal Media" is a myth and a talking point that right wingers use to play the victim and to justify buying up more media markets. "

Nowhere did I mention or write or say "the liberal media." Nowhere.

My post was challenging Mr. Plant's claim that, again, "All media is far right.dominated by the far right". That is what he stated.

My apology for the above: Mr. Plant said "dominated by the far right" and I erroneously left that out although I quoted it correctly in my original post above.

Again, by no reasonable standard can one say that in the US "all media is dominated by the far right." All means all. Not most but all. The NY Times is not far right. MSNBC is not far right. CNN is not far right. The Washington Post is not far right. The NY Times endorsed Mr. Biden for President and four years ago they endorsed Hillary Clinton for President. So did the Washington Post. Why would "far right" newspapers, as they allegedly are since "all media" is "dominated by the far right", endorse Biden and Clinton? It's illogical.

Whether they are liberal or not is a different question. The discussion is whether those entities are "far right" (they aren't) and part of this "dominated by" claim. If "all media is dominated by the far right" as Mr. Plant said then they must be "dominated". But these are major news organizations with great influence in America. They are not "dominated" by "far right" news stations across the country.

Note: I edited some of the above for clarity.

In any case, let's go back to the JFK assassination which is what Duncan wants us to talk about.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3841 on: March 03, 2021, 06:30:59 PM »
:D :D :D

President Biden already visited Texas and supplied them with federal aid. Schools are closed because of Covid 19.

Same old b.s. and bogus disinformation.   

Criminal Donald sat around watching Faux Propaganda all day and tweeting. Went golfing every weekend doing nothing while the pandemic went out of control.

The CDC has confirmed that schools can safely reopen even before teachers receive the vaccine.  These are the same "scientists" that Old Joe relentlessly criticized Trump for not listening too.  Remember?  But now it's fine to disregard the "science" for political purposes because Old Joe's paymasters don't want to go back to work.  And the border situation is out of control after only a month of Old Joe's dereliction of his Constitutional duty.  Illegal aliens are pouring across the border in record numbers creating a humanitarian crisis: 

"Members of the Domestic Policy Council were set to tell President Biden Tuesday that the number of migrant children who cross the southern border this year is on pace to exceed an all-time record — by 45 percent — citing unreleased data from the Department of Homeland Security."

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3842 on: March 03, 2021, 06:42:23 PM »
The CDC has confirmed that schools can safely reopen even before teachers receive the vaccine.  These are the same "scientists" that Old Joe relentlessly criticized Trump for not listening too.

You're forgetting (or more likely deliberately obfuscating) the part about it being necessary for schools to have strictly implemented mitigation strategies in place first, such as

- Universal and correct use of masks
- Physical distancing
- Handwashing and respiratory etiquette
- Cleaning and maintaining healthy facilities
- Contact tracing in combination with isolation and quarantine, in collaboration with the health department

Until schools are doing this consistently and universally they are not safe to reopen for in-person learning.

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"Members of the Domestic Policy Council were set to tell President Biden Tuesday that the number of migrant children who cross the southern border this year is on pace to exceed an all-time record — by 45 percent — citing unreleased data from the Department of Homeland Security."

New York Post.  LOL.  "on pace to exceed".  LOL.  "unreleased data".  LOL
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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3843 on: March 03, 2021, 10:54:14 PM »

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"Members of the Domestic Policy Council were set to tell President Biden Tuesday that the number of migrant children who cross the southern border this year is on pace to exceed an all-time record — by 45 percent — citing unreleased data from the Department of Homeland Security."


. . . "unreleased data".  LOL

This is true. QAnon has not yet released the data but are expected to do shortly.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3844 on: March 03, 2021, 11:12:08 PM »

Headline:  Merck and Johnson & Johnson vaccine: How the White House convinced two pharmaceutical giants to collaborate

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/merck-and-johnson-johnson-vaccine-how-the-white-house-convinced-two-pharmaceutical-giants-to-collaborate/ar-BB1ecG4h?ocid=msedgntp

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Preliminary conversations that began under the Trump administration about a vaccine manufacturing partnership between the pharmaceutical giant and its competitor, Merck, whose own vaccine attempt had failed, were "incremental" and going nowhere fast, according to two senior administration officials. And Johnson & Johnson seemed reluctant to commit to a large-scale deal with Merck, the officials said.

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That changed when Jeff Zients, the White House's coronavirus czar, called Johnson & Johnson's CEO Alex Gorsky on a Sunday in early February and urged the company to meet the moment, stressing that the US is in a "national emergency" and that it was time to go "big and bold."

"You can't be incremental and small in your thinking. We have to overwhelm this problem," one senior administration official said, recounting the conversation, which lasted an hour more than the scheduled 15 minutes.

Zients reminded Gorsky -- a West Point graduate and US military veteran -- of Johnson & Johnson's major contributions during World War II, including manufacturing the first-ever duct tape and other military supplies. Just as Americans remembered Johnson & Johnson's contributions then, its efforts to accelerate the vaccination of Americans would be their new legacy, Zients said, according to two senior officials.

"That was really a turning point," one of the officials said, noting that Gorsky "embraced" the approach and discussions about a large-scale partnership with Merck quickly turned more serious.

President Biden hired a very good man, Jeff Zients, to be the coronavirus czar. Zients did his research and found two important points:
1.   The CEO of Johnson & Johnson Alex Gorsky was a West Point graduate.
2.   He found out the history of Johnson & Johnson’s contributions during World War II.
Good research allowed Zients to make the most important sales pitch of his life. Gorsky had the opportunity to have Johnson & Johnson makes its greatest contribution to the United States since World War II. Subcontracting large projects is just as effective in the twenty-first century as it was in the twentieth.

This overcame the policy that, if implemented, would maximum Johnson & Johnson’s profit, at the expense of not maximizing vaccine production. Yes, Zients could have forced Gorsky to do this. But Gorsky will pursue this policy with greater enthusiasm and likely effectiveness when this became his mission.

This shows what can be accomplished by a competent administration that is not totally distracted by trying to overturn a fair and free election.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3845 on: March 03, 2021, 11:51:05 PM »
Criminal Donald's domestic terrorists are at it again. These people are psychotic. 

House of Representatives cancels work amid QAnon conspiracies around March 4
https://www.rawstory.com/house-shutsdown-march-4-fears/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3846 on: March 04, 2021, 12:58:22 AM »
Mr. Plant wrote: "Mr. Gailbraith has no clue what he's talking about. The "Liberal Media" is a myth and a talking point that right wingers use to play the victim and to justify buying up more media markets. "

Nowhere did I mention or write or say "the liberal media." Nowhere.

My post was challenging Mr. Plant's claim that, again, "All media is far right.dominated by the far right". That is what he stated.

My apology for the above: Mr. Plant said "dominated by the far right" and I erroneously left that out although I quoted it correctly in my original post above.

Again, by no reasonable standard can one say that in the US "all media is dominated by the far right." All means all. Not most but all. The NY Times is not far right. MSNBC is not far right. CNN is not far right. The Washington Post is not far right. The NY Times endorsed Mr. Biden for President and four years ago they endorsed Hillary Clinton for President. So did the Washington Post. Why would "far right" newspapers, as they allegedly are since "all media" is "dominated by the far right", endorse Biden and Clinton? It's illogical.

Whether they are liberal or not is a different question. The discussion is whether those entities are "far right" (they aren't) and part of this "dominated by" claim. If "all media is dominated by the far right" as Mr. Plant said then they must be "dominated". But these are major news organizations with great influence in America. They are not "dominated" by "far right" news stations across the country.

Note: I edited some of the above for clarity.

In any case, let's go back to the JFK assassination which is what Duncan wants us to talk about.

Yes, the United States media is dominated by the far right. That is a fact. Nobody can argue against that.   

Radio, print media, cable news, and local news on ABC, CBS, NBC tv affiliates are all dominated by the far right. Right wing media corporations have a monopoly on radio and television.

Can Mr. Gailbraith (or anybody else) name one liberal broadcasting company that owns thousands of local radio and television stations all across America? No he can't, because no liberal broadcasting company like that exists.

Sinclair and Cumulus Broadcasting are right wing owned companies that dominate the local radio and television markets with right wing propaganda. No liberal tv or radio company like that exists in America. The "Liberal Media" claim is an absolute joke.

The right continuously makes the bogus claim that the media is "all Liberal" which is total b.s. when these right wingers own nearly every single radio station and the television affiliate pushing pure right wing propaganda.

The NY Times, Washington Post etc. has conservative writers and they publish hit pieces against Democrats. To call those organizations "liberal media" is a joke, because if they were "all liberal", you would never see those stories in print.     

Wall Street Journal and Washington Times are a couple of right wing owned newspapers that dominates print media. 

Every media outlet is dominated by the right: radio, television and print. Right wing propaganda newspapers like the Epoch Times are being sent for free all over America looking for subscribers. There is no "liberal media" that has thousands of radio stations for liberals, no ABC, CBS, NBC local tv stations across America that has liberal local newscasts. Those are all right wing dominated media pushing their bogus propaganda to the entire country. That far right wing media dominates the United States media in radio and television.             

Mr. Gailbraith can't name one "liberal media" t.v. station, radio channel, newspaper, cable news channel that pushes pure propaganda like we see on Faux, OAN, NewsMax, Sinclair Broadcasting, Cumulus channels, Washington Times. They simply do not exist. Even in the most Democratic cities no all liberal radio stations exist. But several right wing talk radio stations do exist in those cities. Again, where is this so called "Liberal Media" at?             

What other media is left Mr. Gailbraith? Where is this "Liberal Media" right wingers claim all the time?     

The media is dominated by the far right. The "Liberal Media" claim the right uses is a myth so they can play the victim and justify buying up more media markets all across America. 

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3847 on: March 04, 2021, 03:16:40 PM »
This is true. QAnon has not yet released the data but are expected to do shortly.

QAnon is mostly a conspiracy theory created by the left as a boogeyman to scare to the masses.  No one had ever heard of it before the leftist media started touting it as some type of mass movement.  But that has nothing to do with the data from the DHS.  Do you not believe that illegal immigration has substantially increased since Old Joe became President?  Why did they reopen those facilities that Trump closed to house children?