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« Reply #3680 on: February 16, 2021, 11:41:13 PM »
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3681 on: February 17, 2021, 12:32:50 AM »
All of this is false and/or the product of political bias.  Name one specific thing that Old Joe has done to impact the number of cases. I'm not blaming China Joe for the virus deaths on his watch.  I'm just applying your insane logic to him in the same manner you applied it to Trump.  He is President, therefore he is responsible for virus deaths according to you.  Right?  In contrast, I agree with Old Joe that there is "nothing" (his exact words) that can be done until the Trump vaccine resolves this issue.  The case and death numbers went up and down under Trump.  They were up in the post-holiday weeks through early Feb. as expected and have declined as expected as time passed from the holidays.  China Joe has done absolutely nothing to impact those case and death numbers.

So hard data numbers are false and political bias?  :D

Biden has a 62% approval rating. Criminal Donald never even had 50% in 4 years. Nearly 60% of Americans wanted him to be convicted.   

Biden's new COVID plan was inacted on Day 1 and each day the number of vaccinations have grown up to 2 million.

Criminal Donald never even reached 1 million. 

Your right wing shenanigans are over, they are over for you and every right winger that attempts to repeat them.

Joe Biden is in charge and is getting the job done. When all the numbers keep coming out how many millions of people are getting vaccinated and he crushes the Trump Virus, no amount of gaslighting and distortions are going to save you and your cult party. Joe Biden will be re-elected in an electoral landslide.

Insane logic? Donald Trump failed America and is directly responsible for the almost 500,000 deaths that occurred because he did nothing to prevent to spread of the virus. For 7 months, he had every opportunity to get the virus under control and he refused to do so. It didn't get better it, got worse. His team of criminals suppressed covid tests, covered up how bad the virus actually was, never told us it was airborne, weakened the CDC all to protect him. Trump's  response to the number of deaths? "It is what it is." That's why he lost the election in a blowout.

President Biden is cleaning up the disaster that was handed to him. He is not responsible for the 25+ million sick and dying people that Trump left him. Trump created that and that is his disaster. You trying to blame Biden for what Trump created is a joke.   

President Biden ramped up the vaccinations by nearly 2 million and secured 600 million of doses to vaccinate every American. Criminal Donald passed on securing more doses and the number of vaccinations under him was dismal.     

The cases under Trump were steadily high for an entire year. The numbers did start to go down when stay at home orders were in place and we saw major improvements. Trump had nothing to do with that because it was the Governors  that issued those orders. When things were looking up, Trump and his cult started demanding the country to be opened up and staged his first insurrection in Michigan when his lunatics stormed the Capitol and demanded the state to be opened up. Ever since then, the virus took over and decimated our country because it was opened up prematurely. All the graphs show the facts and I've posted those months ago.

A new COVID plan plus nearly 2 million vaccine shots per day is what is slowing the virus and it's all because of President Joe Biden.

Funny how you are arguing about the virus when you believed last March that it was all a "hoax". Now you want to give Criminal Donald phony credit and lay all the blame at Biden's feet. That's what right wingers do. They make up b.s., distort the truth, and gaslight because they support failures with failed polices. It's all spin trying to make themselves look good and it's pathetic. 

You should be rooting for President Biden to destroy this virus so we can all return back to our normal lives and get our economy on track and get back the millions of jobs that we lost during the Trump Depression.               

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3682 on: February 17, 2021, 01:40:35 AM »
Unlike Trump who was blindsided by a pandemic that China covered up until it was here

 :D :D :D

"Blindsided" Richard says.

This is truly pathetic how you cover for Criminal Donald. All Richard has is bogus excuses to protect his orange criminal hero. Very sad indeed. 

U.S. Intelligence knew and warned Criminal Donald about the coronavirus in November of 2019. The first U.S. coronavirus case wasn't identified until mid January. He had all of December and January to prepare America and get a strategy in order. Instead he ignored it, played golf, and held hate rallies for his psychopathic deranged cult. 

Trump was briefed twice in January 2020 about how devastating the virus was going to be. He chose to ignore the November warning and the two January briefings while doing nothing. Making the bogus "blindsided" claim is total b.s. and Richard should be ashamed for even trying to post it.

Richard, how can you make up total b.s. that Trump was "blindsided" when he was warned several times? HE KNEW.

The US has the best intelligence in the world and Richard wants to pretend Criminal Donald was "in the dark" and had no idea what was going on. Total b.s.

Since Trump has dementia maybe he forgot what he was told. The facts have been reported and he was told in November 2019 about the coronavirus and he did nothing about it. That tells you all you need to know. It was no secret. HE KNEW.


Report: U.S. Intelligence Officials Warned About Coronavirus In Wuhan In Late November
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/04/08/report-us-intelligence-officials-warned-about-coronavirus-in-wuhan-in-late-november/?sh=2ec9cb6ea1eb

Trump had two intelligence briefings on coronavirus in late January, White House official says
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/trump-coronavirus-covid-19-intel-briefing-january-white-house-20200504.html


China Joe came to office with a year of experience with the virus to come up with a plan. He has none. He said so himself that there is nothing to be done until the vaccine takes effect.
 

 :D :D

Richard, this is pathetic.

A President has no idea what can happen during his presidency. He has to be prepared for anything and be able to take on any challenges that comes his way. This is what separates the greatest Presidents from the worst. With Richard's logic, we would have lost the Civil War, World War 1, World War 2, and the Cuban missile crisis and no President would be able to take on a challenge because they "didn't have a year to prepare for it". What an absolute joke.

This is why Donald Trump is a failure and a joke. He's nothing but a lifelong loudmouth corrupt criminal con man that has no clue how to lead in a crisis. All he can do is smear and attack others while bragging how "great he is". But he never does anything "great" because it's all a con. He bankrupted all his casinos squandering the millions of dollars his father gave him and then got lucky hosting a reality tv show where he played a part pretending to be a leader and successful businessman. When he had the ultimate opportunity to show how "great he is" to take on a deadly virus, he abdicated all his responsibilities by doing nothing.     

On the other hand, Joe Biden in late January 2020, in great detail outlined what needed to be done to combat the virus even before it decimated the United States. Biden warned Trump was not up to the task and we would face a great number of deaths. Biden already had a plan of what he would do and he wasn't even President. Criminal Donald was "President" and had no plan.

So Richard, explain to me how Joe Biden knew that the coronavirus pandemic was going to be catastrophic and he already outlined his own plan on what needed to be done and you're claiming Criminal Donald was "blindsided" and in the dark not knowing anything when he had every intelligence agency at his disposal and health expert informing him of the dire situation and he as "president" had no plan?

Here is Joe Biden's OP-Ed from January 2020 detailing what his plan would be and how he warned us that Criminal Donald would be a disaster handling the pandemic. Biden was 100% correct even before it started. If Biden was President in 2020 the virus would never had gotten as bad as it did.

FLASHBACK by Joe Biden: Trump is worst possible leader to deal with coronavirus outbreak

President has blithely tweeted that 'it will all work out well.' Yet the steps he has taken have only weakened our capacity to respond.

Joe Biden Opinion contributor


https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-us-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3683 on: February 17, 2021, 03:06:46 AM »
WHAT IS GASLIGHTING?

The term originates in the systematic psychological manipulation of a victim by her husband in Patrick Hamilton’s 1938 stage play Gas Light, and the film adaptations released in 1940 and 1944.

In the story, the husband attempts to convince his wife and others that she is insane by manipulating small elements of their environment and insisting that she is mistaken, remembering things incorrectly, or delusional when she points out these changes. The play's title alludes to how the abusive husband slowly dims the gas lights in their home, while pretending nothing has changed, in an effort to make his wife doubt her own perceptions. The wife repeatedly asks her husband to confirm her perceptions about the dimming lights, but in defiance of reality, he keeps insisting that the lights are the same and instead it is she who is going insane.

Today, we are living in a perpetual state of gaslighting. The reality that what we are being told by the media is at complete odds with what we are seeing with our own two eyes. And when we question the false reality that we are being presented, or we claim that what we see is that actual reality, we are vilified as racist or bigots or just plain crazy. You’re not racist. You’re not crazy. You’re being gaslighted.

New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than any other state, and New York has accounted for one fifth of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are peaceful protests, and when we call this destruction of our cities, riots, we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Capitalist countries are the most prosperous countries in the world. The standard of living is the highest in capitalist countries. We see more poor people move up the economic ladder to the middle and even the wealthy class through their effort and ability in capitalist countries than any other economic system in the world, but we are told capitalism is an oppressive system designed to keep people down. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Communist countries killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Communist countries strip their citizens of basic human rights, dictate every aspect of their lives, treat their citizens as slaves, and drive their economies into the ground, but we are told that Communism is the fairest, most equitable, freest, and most prosperous economic system in the world. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The most egregious example of gaslighting is the concept of “white fragility”. You spend your life trying to be a good person, trying to treat people fairly and with respect. You disavow racism and bigotry in all its forms. You judge people solely on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. You don’t discriminate based on race or ethnicity. But you are told you are a racist, not because of something you did or said, but solely because of the color of your skin. You know instinctively that charging someone with racism because of their skin color is itself racist. You know that you are not racist, so you defend yourself and your character, but you are told that your defense of yourself is proof of your racism. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be. It deals in lies and psychological coercion, and not the truth and intellectual discourse. If you ever ask yourself if you’re crazy, you are not. Crazy people aren’t sane enough to ask themselves if they’re crazy. So, trust yourself, believe what’s in your heart. Trust your eyes over what you are told. Never listen to the people who tell you that you are crazy, because you are not, you’re being gaslighted.

Sophocles said: "What people believe prevails over the truth."

And that's what the media are trying to exploit.

If you have read this far let me say one thing. I did not write the above and I am not sure who the author is.

I sent this to you because you are hopefully smart enough to understand what is being done to you on a daily basis from many directions. I do not care about your political party affiliation. Just think through what you are being told. Don't listen with a deaf ear, or see with a blind eye. Question everything -- even things from people who you think you can trust. Question why you are being told whatever, by whomever. Question their motives. Question who benefits. Question if there is a hidden agenda behind the propaganda. Question, Question, Question. Then do your own research, and use some of your own critical thinking skills to get to the truth. Listen with your heart and with your mind.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3684 on: February 17, 2021, 05:06:13 AM »
WHAT IS GASLIGHTING?

The term originates in the systematic psychological manipulation of a victim by her husband in Patrick Hamilton’s 1938 stage play Gas Light, and the film adaptations released in 1940 and 1944.

In the story, the husband attempts to convince his wife and others that she is insane by manipulating small elements of their environment and insisting that she is mistaken, remembering things incorrectly, or delusional when she points out these changes. The play's title alludes to how the abusive husband slowly dims the gas lights in their home, while pretending nothing has changed, in an effort to make his wife doubt her own perceptions. The wife repeatedly asks her husband to confirm her perceptions about the dimming lights, but in defiance of reality, he keeps insisting that the lights are the same and instead it is she who is going insane.

Today, we are living in a perpetual state of gaslighting. The reality that what we are being told by the media is at complete odds with what we are seeing with our own two eyes. And when we question the false reality that we are being presented, or we claim that what we see is that actual reality, we are vilified as racist or bigots or just plain crazy. You’re not racist. You’re not crazy. You’re being gaslighted.

New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than any other state, and New York has accounted for one fifth of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are peaceful protests, and when we call this destruction of our cities, riots, we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Capitalist countries are the most prosperous countries in the world. The standard of living is the highest in capitalist countries. We see more poor people move up the economic ladder to the middle and even the wealthy class through their effort and ability in capitalist countries than any other economic system in the world, but we are told capitalism is an oppressive system designed to keep people down. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Communist countries killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Communist countries strip their citizens of basic human rights, dictate every aspect of their lives, treat their citizens as slaves, and drive their economies into the ground, but we are told that Communism is the fairest, most equitable, freest, and most prosperous economic system in the world. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The most egregious example of gaslighting is the concept of “white fragility”. You spend your life trying to be a good person, trying to treat people fairly and with respect. You disavow racism and bigotry in all its forms. You judge people solely on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. You don’t discriminate based on race or ethnicity. But you are told you are a racist, not because of something you did or said, but solely because of the color of your skin. You know instinctively that charging someone with racism because of their skin color is itself racist. You know that you are not racist, so you defend yourself and your character, but you are told that your defense of yourself is proof of your racism. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be. It deals in lies and psychological coercion, and not the truth and intellectual discourse. If you ever ask yourself if you’re crazy, you are not. Crazy people aren’t sane enough to ask themselves if they’re crazy. So, trust yourself, believe what’s in your heart. Trust your eyes over what you are told. Never listen to the people who tell you that you are crazy, because you are not, you’re being gaslighted.

Sophocles said: "What people believe prevails over the truth."

And that's what the media are trying to exploit.

If you have read this far let me say one thing. I did not write the above and I am not sure who the author is.

I sent this to you because you are hopefully smart enough to understand what is being done to you on a daily basis from many directions. I do not care about your political party affiliation. Just think through what you are being told. Don't listen with a deaf ear, or see with a blind eye. Question everything -- even things from people who you think you can trust. Question why you are being told whatever, by whomever. Question their motives. Question who benefits. Question if there is a hidden agenda behind the propaganda. Question, Question, Question. Then do your own research, and use some of your own critical thinking skills to get to the truth. Listen with your heart and with your mind.

 :D :D :D

This is the QAnon b.s. that the Trump cult eats up like candy which is all total b.s.

Let me debunk some of this asinine nonsense.


New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than any other state, and New York has accounted for one fifth of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

BS:

The gaslighter here is Alan Fritzke posting severe disinformation. That's why we have a thing called facts and data to debunk the lies.

New York does not have "twice as many deaths than any other state". Texas and Florida has been a COVID disaster since the last 6 months. New York had a disastrous March and April because Criminal Donald did nothing to prepare major cities to get a plan in order on how to deal with COVID. 1,000 people were dying a day that lived in congested NYC. Governors like Cuomo had to work out all the details on their own and didn't get help or resources they needed from Criminal Donald. After May, the number of infections and deaths decreased in New York. I've already posted the charts that showed the decreasing death rate. On the other hand, states like Texas and Florida had the highest number of deaths and new infections on record.

Current Number of Total COVID Deaths

New York 46,333
Texas 41,595

After all the attacks against New York by these ridiculous right wingers, Texas has nearly the same death total as New York. That shows you what a total disaster Texas has been with Trump stooge Gov. Abbott who can't even keep on the lights in the state during a winter storm. Blue states still have the power on. That's failed and useless lack of Republican leadership.     

If Cuomo hadn't issued stay at home orders and implemented a covid plan then thousands of more would have been killed. Yes, Cuomo did a great job considering he had to work to save the largest population in New York City. 
         
 
We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are peaceful protests, and when we call this destruction of our cities, riots, we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Mr. Fritzke said nothing about white supremacist hate groups like the Proud Boys, Boogaloos, Oath Keepers etc. who infiltrated the peaceful protests to incite violence, cause violence, loot, smash buildings, and start riots. That was all their plan to keep Criminal Donald in office by trying to blame it on the "Black Lives Matter" protests.

Once again, Mr. Fritzke is gaslighting us. 

Man who helped ignite George Floyd riots identified as white supremacist: Police: The suspect wore a mask and carried an umbrella, police said

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536


We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

President Biden has called for more police and Democrats have called for community policing to address these issues but right wingers refuse to fund the police and programs to make it happen. They are all liars and fraudsters. 

Criminal Donald is a con artist and never cared about the police or "Blue Lives Matter". He used them to attack people of color because he is a racist and a white supremacist and he wanted a bogus slogan for the cult to chant. He had a chance to fund the police but Criminal Donald defunded the police. His MAGA cult beat and killed cops at the Capitol riot as Criminal Donald loved every minute of it refusing to call the national guard. So, he is a liar, a phony, projectionist, and a hypocrite.

Mr. Fritzke gaslighted us again. Trump defunded the police.

Trump said, “I love the police.” But his budget slashes funding that helps hire more cops: Trump’s words don’t seem to match his policy
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/12/17004432/trump-budget-police-cops-hiring-2019

Trump Tries to Defund the Police on His Way Out: He also wants to cut money for global COVID vaccination
https://prospect.org/politics/trump-tries-to-defund-the-police-on-his-way-out/
         
The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

 
Yes you are crazy. Mr. Fritzke says "people of color" are enjoying freedom but doesn't mention that white supremacist hate groups and domestic terrorists like QAnon are the biggest threat to the United States of America. These are the groups that support Trump and who attacked our Capitol. Trump supports them because they are his base. Trump ignored their imminent threat to our country. Mr. Fritzke is gaslighting us again.   

'It is serious and intense': white supremacist domestic terror threat looms large in US: From the frequency of attacks to the scope of ambition, racist terror groups – encouraged by the president, are showing unparalleled activity in the modern era
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/19/white-supremacist-domestic-terror-threat-looms-large-in-us

White Supremacists, Domestic Terrorists Pose Biggest Threat Of ‘Lethal Violence’ This Election, DHS Assessment Finds
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/09/18/white-supremacists-domestic-terrorists-pose-biggest-threat-of-lethal-violence-this-election-dhs-assessment-finds/?sh=1263e9264287

DHS Report Says White Supremacist Groups Are Deadliest US Terror Threat
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/10/07/white-supremacist-groups-pose-greatest-us-domestic-terror-threat
 
Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be.

For once I agree with Mr. Fritzke on an issue. But he has been clearly gaslighting us in his posts. And if it wasn't for gaslighting. the GOP and the Trump cult would have nothing to talk about. Gaslighting is their specialty. Glad I had the opportunity to debunk this QAnon garbage.     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3684 on: February 17, 2021, 05:06:13 AM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3685 on: February 17, 2021, 05:53:53 AM »
WHAT IS GASLIGHTING?

The term originates in the systematic psychological manipulation of a victim by her husband in Patrick Hamilton’s 1938 stage play Gas Light, and the film adaptations released in 1940 and 1944.

In the story, the husband attempts to convince his wife and others that she is insane by manipulating small elements of their environment and insisting that she is mistaken, remembering things incorrectly, or delusional when she points out these changes. The play's title alludes to how the abusive husband slowly dims the gas lights in their home, while pretending nothing has changed, in an effort to make his wife doubt her own perceptions. The wife repeatedly asks her husband to confirm her perceptions about the dimming lights, but in defiance of reality, he keeps insisting that the lights are the same and instead it is she who is going insane.

Today, we are living in a perpetual state of gaslighting. The reality that what we are being told by the media is at complete odds with what we are seeing with our own two eyes. And when we question the false reality that we are being presented, or we claim that what we see is that actual reality, we are vilified as racist or bigots or just plain crazy. You’re not racist. You’re not crazy. You’re being gaslighted.

New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than any other state, and New York has accounted for one fifth of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are peaceful protests, and when we call this destruction of our cities, riots, we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Capitalist countries are the most prosperous countries in the world. The standard of living is the highest in capitalist countries. We see more poor people move up the economic ladder to the middle and even the wealthy class through their effort and ability in capitalist countries than any other economic system in the world, but we are told capitalism is an oppressive system designed to keep people down. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Communist countries killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Communist countries strip their citizens of basic human rights, dictate every aspect of their lives, treat their citizens as slaves, and drive their economies into the ground, but we are told that Communism is the fairest, most equitable, freest, and most prosperous economic system in the world. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The most egregious example of gaslighting is the concept of “white fragility”. You spend your life trying to be a good person, trying to treat people fairly and with respect. You disavow racism and bigotry in all its forms. You judge people solely on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. You don’t discriminate based on race or ethnicity. But you are told you are a racist, not because of something you did or said, but solely because of the color of your skin. You know instinctively that charging someone with racism because of their skin color is itself racist. You know that you are not racist, so you defend yourself and your character, but you are told that your defense of yourself is proof of your racism. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be. It deals in lies and psychological coercion, and not the truth and intellectual discourse. If you ever ask yourself if you’re crazy, you are not. Crazy people aren’t sane enough to ask themselves if they’re crazy. So, trust yourself, believe what’s in your heart. Trust your eyes over what you are told. Never listen to the people who tell you that you are crazy, because you are not, you’re being gaslighted.

Sophocles said: "What people believe prevails over the truth."

And that's what the media are trying to exploit.

If you have read this far let me say one thing. I did not write the above and I am not sure who the author is.

I sent this to you because you are hopefully smart enough to understand what is being done to you on a daily basis from many directions. I do not care about your political party affiliation. Just think through what you are being told. Don't listen with a deaf ear, or see with a blind eye. Question everything -- even things from people who you think you can trust. Question why you are being told whatever, by whomever. Question their motives. Question who benefits. Question if there is a hidden agenda behind the propaganda. Question, Question, Question. Then do your own research, and use some of your own critical thinking skills to get to the truth. Listen with your heart and with your mind.

A quick google leads to a Dr Rich Sweir who also claims he doesn't know who the author is. He comes off as nothing more than a liberal critic, sounding exactly like any other lunatic fringe right-wing-blogosphere nut job. Those fools send out chain emails that appeal to the emotions of the stunted religious right. Full of corny, tacky homilies suitable only for hidebound old farts.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3686 on: February 17, 2021, 06:17:01 AM »
:D :D :D

This is the QAnon b.s. that the Trump cult eats up like candy which is all total b.s.

Let me debunk some of this asinine nonsense.


.........On the other hand, states like Texas and Florida had the highest number of deaths and new infections on record.

Current Number of Total COVID Deaths

New York 46,333
Texas 41,595

After all the attacks against New York by these ridiculous right wingers, Texas has nearly the same death total as New York. That shows you what a total disaster Texas has been with Trump stooge Gov. Abbott who can't even keep on the lights in the state during a winter storm. Blue states still have the power on. That's failed and useless lack of Republican leadership.     

If Cuomo hadn't issued stay at home orders and implemented a covid plan then thousands of more would have been killed. Yes, Cuomo did a great job considering he had to work to save the largest population in New York City. 
........         

Who is gaslighting who here?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

NY State population: 19.3 million,   Texas state population:  28 million

New York: 236 deaths per 100,000
New Jersey: 253 deaths per 100,000
Texas:  142 deaths per 100,000
Florida: 134 deaths per 100,000

The BLUE states win!



Again blame it on a non-existent Qanon - whoever he or that is!  You can't even back up your statistics and the one pushing the propaganda!  Florida likely has the most senior citizens per capita and we know who the must susceptible victims are - not the children but the elderly.  Cuomo should be put in prison knowing full well the risk of placing positive infected patients back into LTC facilities to kill more.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3687 on: February 17, 2021, 06:26:13 AM »
A quick google leads to a Dr Rich Sweir who also claims he doesn't know who the author is. He comes off as nothing more than a liberal critic, sounding exactly like any other lunatic fringe right-wing-blogosphere nut job. Those fools send out chain emails that appeal to the emotions of the stunted religious right. Full of corny, tacky homilies suitable only for hidebound old farts.

So....is there anything wrong with having an opinion?  At one time, people questioned the earth being flat and were punished accordingly.  What is wrong with questioning the authority that wields the power over you at anytime?  You should have yours eyes wide open and willing to debate your point of view!

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3687 on: February 17, 2021, 06:26:13 AM »