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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3512 on: January 24, 2021, 02:34:22 AM »
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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3513 on: January 24, 2021, 06:17:13 AM »
So you think Trump should have gone on TV last year and said 600k or more Americans would be dead within the next year or so and there was nothing to be done about it?  Creating widespread panic.  Until Trump's miracle vaccine is distributed, there is nothing much that can be done.  Lots of people are going to die.  Trump knew that and so did Biden and the Dems who were blaming him for the pandemic during the election cycle as though Trump failed to take some unspecified action and was responsible for the deaths.  Now Old Joe is acknowledging the reality that Trump faced all along.   But not a peep out of the media.  It would have been a firestorm under Trump that he was uncaring and not doing his job etc.

He could have said our death rate will be about number 20 worldwide in a year......but then he didn’t. How could he know that. He told his people what he thought would keep Wall Street from panicking. He thought he needed that to be re-elected. Of course he told Woodward much differently in private. Irony is Wall Street ignored him and actually performs better under Democrats.....if you're in doubt just ask your investment advisor. The big lie again. Does anyone here actually watch Fox News to be informed?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3514 on: January 24, 2021, 07:11:46 AM »
So you think Trump should have gone on TV last year and said 600k or more Americans would be dead within the next year or so and there was nothing to be done about it?  Creating widespread panic.  Until Trump's miracle vaccine is distributed, there is nothing much that can be done.  Lots of people are going to die.  Trump knew that and so did Biden and the Dems who were blaming him for the pandemic during the election cycle as though Trump failed to take some unspecified action and was responsible for the deaths.  Now Old Joe is acknowledging the reality that Trump faced all along.   But not a peep out of the media.  It would have been a firestorm under Trump that he was uncaring and not doing his job etc.

So you think Trump should have gone on TV last year and said 600k or more Americans would be dead within the next year or so and there was nothing to be done about it?

There you go again, trying to steer the conversation in the direction you want, by misrepresenting what I said. Nobody is talking about predicting numbers of death. But "it's going to get worse, before it gets better" is a hell of a lot more honest that "don't worry, it'll go away"!

Creating widespread panic. 

No, there was no need for that. But telling lies to give people a false sense of security and encourage them not to follow guidelines (mask wearing is voluntary) may will have resulted in a higher death toll. But, I suppose, that's ok with you, right?

Until Trump's miracle vaccine is distributed, there is nothing much that can be done.

There is no such thing as a "Trump's miracle vaccine". There are only about 10 different vaccines available now, and all Trump did was limit some red tape for one of them.

Trump knew that and so did Biden and the Dems who were blaming him for the pandemic during the election cycle as though Trump failed to take some unspecified action and was responsible for the deaths.

Of course Trump failed to act decisively and thus was responsible for a higher death rate. No question about it.

Now Old Joe is acknowledging the reality that Trump faced all along.   But not a peep out of the media. 

For crying out loud. The man has only been in office for a few days and has already told the people that things will get worse before they get better. The media has nothing to "peep" about.

It would have been a firestorm under Trump that he was uncaring and not doing his job etc.

But Trump was uncaring and not doing his job. That's what cost him the election!
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3515 on: January 24, 2021, 11:02:06 AM »
So something Trump allegedly "considered" but never did might be a crime?  A "thought crime"! LOL  Orwell would be a proud.  You need a new hobby.  Trump is no longer president.

He attempted a coup and incited an insurrection. He called the Georgia Secretary of State on the phone to illegally overturn election results. That is a crime. You need a new hobby instead of covering up for the criminal.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3516 on: January 24, 2021, 11:10:34 AM »
So you think Trump should have gone on TV last year and said 600k or more Americans would be dead within the next year or so and there was nothing to be done about it?  Creating widespread panic.  Until Trump's miracle vaccine is distributed, there is nothing much that can be done.  Lots of people are going to die.  Trump knew that and so did Biden and the Dems who were blaming him for the pandemic during the election cycle as though Trump failed to take some unspecified action and was responsible for the deaths.  Now Old Joe is acknowledging the reality that Trump faced all along.   But not a peep out of the media.  It would have been a firestorm under Trump that he was uncaring and not doing his job etc.

Same old  BS: spin from "Richard" trying to protect Seditious Donald with useless gaslighting and propaganda.   
 
"Richard" has no clue what it means to take an oath of office to protect Americans. That's the job of a President, to inform and protect the citizens. Seditious Donald lied and did nothing allowing 410K Americans to die.   

New Zealand beat the virus because of strong leadership. Each citizen knew what was happening so their lives could be saved. There was "no panic" going on. Millions of people in America blew the virus off as a joke because your orange turd and the right wing media called it a "hoax".

Biden has done more about COVID-19 in 3 days than Seditious Donald did in a year. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3517 on: January 24, 2021, 11:15:00 AM »
Take it up with Fauci and the Biden administration.  They have said otherwise and debunked this fake CNN story.  And approximately 15 million people have received the vaccine.  There are definitely issues but those are mostly at the state level.  Particularly those states run by Dems who are either totally incompetent or intentionally delaying the rollout as a basis to obtain money from the Feds.  In those states like NY and California, that implemented disasterous lockdowns, there is no state tax revenue from the businesses they closed and people who have fled.  They know that China Joe is likely to send them millions to make them whole under the guise of the rollout.  Very little of that money will be used for that purpose, however.  It is the height of corruption.

More of the same BS: from Richard. He is like a broken record.   

There was no national plan for a vaccine roll out and states aren't getting what they are supposed to and that comes from the administration.

There were no "lockdowns". They are stay at home orders. And that saved millions of lives.   
 

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3518 on: January 24, 2021, 11:58:10 AM »
In 1976, Alan Dershowitz, who appears to be part of Trump's legal team, handled the successful appeal of Harry Reems, who had been convicted of distribution of obscenity resulting from his acting in the pornographic movie Deep Throat.Dershowitz argued against censorship of pornography on First Amendment grounds, the right to free speech.

Surely Linda Lovelace's were impeded!  ;)

You guys are a tough crowd.....lighten up.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3519 on: January 24, 2021, 01:48:44 PM »
Bombshell WSJ report: Trump pressured DOJ attorneys to sue states in the Supreme Court to overturn election
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-overturn-election-2650088030/