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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #650 on: July 23, 2020, 06:43:28 AM »
#GestapoTrump

So What's Going Wrong?

Trump's Gestapo thugs are kidnapping and brutalizing Americans citizens on the streets with clubs, tear gas, and weapons. Pregnant women are being attacked in Donald Trump's America. This isn't the land of the free. This is fascism.



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #651 on: July 23, 2020, 06:44:03 AM »
  Hilarious stuff above. 5 Women don't mean squat. Now, the Internals? Big Time Trump, especially in swing states. And this was before the "Untouchables" were sent into Portland, Chicago, Alb. Plus, Trump is going to be handing out Corona $$$. Trump 2020 Rolls On!


Get some mental help.

$$$ doesn't bring back dead people or help dying people in a hospital that Donald Trump ignored.

Women unanimously are against Donald Trump and he's losing in a landslide.   

Biden is up by a 52% to 43% margin among suburban voters in the ABC News/Washington Post poll…In the average of all the polls, Biden’s ahead by more than 15 points with suburban voters. This is a historic margin, if it holds…Four years ago at this time, Trump was beating Clinton by a 45% to 35% margin in the ABC/Washington Post poll among suburban voters…

If you were to go back over time, the exit poll data reveals that no Democrat has won the suburban vote by more than 5 points since at least 1972, when the first exit poll was taken in a presidential election…Back in 2008 (the best year for Democrats this century), Obama won in the suburbs by 2 points in the exit polls. The final ABC News/Washington Post poll had him winning in the suburbs by 5 points.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #652 on: July 23, 2020, 07:10:35 AM »
  Hilarious stuff above. 5 Women don't mean squat. Now, the Internals? Big Time Trump, especially in swing states. And this was before the "Untouchables" were sent into Portland, Chicago, Alb. Plus, Trump is going to be handing out Corona $$$. Trump 2020 Rolls On!

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https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-why-the-chicago-mayor-called-trump-top-aide-karen-6510664/
Explained: Why the Chicago Mayor called Trump top aide ‘Karen’
This week, it was the turn of White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany to be called 'Karen' by Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot. Who is a 'Karen'?
Written by Neha Banka , Edited by Explained Desk | Kolkata | Updated: July 19, 2020 11:32:37 am

https://www.abqjournal.com/1478217/sheriffs-visit-to-trump-white-house-draws-ire.html



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #653 on: July 23, 2020, 07:20:29 AM »

   So we got a "Fuzzy" Joe supporter swearing by "Exit Polling"? And they also don't think "16" is going to Repeat Itself? Double Dumb!

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #654 on: July 23, 2020, 07:55:17 AM »
   So we got a "Fuzzy" Joe supporter swearing by "Exit Polling"? And they also don't think "16" is going to Repeat Itself? Double Dumb!

https://www.fox4news.com/news/quinnipiac-poll-joe-biden-up-1-point-on-donald-trump-in-texas




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https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-why-the-chicago-mayor-called-trump-top-aide-karen-6510664/
Explained: Why the Chicago Mayor called Trump top aide ‘Karen’
This week, it was the turn of White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany to be called 'Karen' by Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot. Who is a 'Karen'?
Written by Neha Banka , Edited by Explained Desk | Kolkata | Updated: July 19, 2020 11:32:37 am

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https://www.abqjournal.com/1478217/sheriffs-visit-to-trump-white-house-draws-ire.html
Sheriff’s visit to Trump White House draws ire
BY ELISE KAPLAN / JOURNAL STAFF WRITER
Published: Tuesday, July 21st, 2020 at 7:59pm
Updated: Wednesday, July 22nd, 2020 at 10:31am

....It’s unclear what would constitute a recent surge in violent crime in Albuquerque.

It’s also unclear how Operation Legend and its goals are different from another initiative the Department of Justice launched to fight violent crime last year....
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #655 on: July 23, 2020, 10:19:58 AM »
I bet Royell can't even begin to explain what he stands for.

We know from his abominable behavior on this forum that he; (1) couldn't care less about the 143.000 + covid deaths and plays down the corona crisis, (2) constantly denies reality by dismissing everything he doesn't like or can't deal with as "fake news", (3) cheers on Trump as he is unleashing armed thugs, pretending to be law enforcement, on the American people and enjoy it when people get beaten up, (4) has no problem with a Nazi like repressive Government actively trampling the constitution and people's rights, (5) defends Bill Barr as he makes a complete mockery of our justice systems and abuses his powers as AG.

But beyond that.... crickets.

All Royell really seems to stand for is suppression and domination of the American people, corruption and a complete breakdown of law and order. That's one hell of an American!

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #656 on: July 23, 2020, 10:59:29 AM »
So we got a "Fuzzy" Joe supporter swearing by "Exit Polling"? And they also don't think "16" is going to Repeat Itself? Double Dumb!

:D :D :D

No election repeats itself. Are you that ignorant? And Royell calls himself a "consultant". Joe Biden is outperforming Clinton everywhere and with every demographic. Donald Trump has lost large chunks of his base and is underperforming everywhere in every demographic. He is only leading in Tennessee by 9 points. He won in 2016 by 26. Also, 50% of Americans are not voting for Donald Trump no matter what.


General Wesley Clark slam dunks Trump regime

If you’re outraged that the Trump regime is using some kind of secret police to kidnap peaceful protesters in Portland, you’re not the only one. Large groups of outraged moms are now marching in several major cities. And now retired General Wesley Clark is speaking up as well:

Now America has secret police? Deployed against the wishes of local government! No names, no badges, look like military! One of the worst offenses against our democracy in American history. Please, America, turn this back.

This comes even as the Oregon Attorney General is taking legal action against the Trump regime over the Portland debacle, and the U.S. Attorney for Oregon has ordered an investigation. Meanwhile, the leaders of other cities such as Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot are vowing to keep Trump’s secret police out by any legal means necessary.


This is why Donald Trump won’t get away with it

When Donald Trump sent his henchmen to Portland to kidnap peaceful protesters and take them away in unmarked cars, some observers feared that it meant Trump had magically defeated us all. But Palmer Report predicted that the backlash against him would be swift and overwhelming. Sure enough, we’re now seeing that.

Take a look at what’s developed as a direct result of Trump’s Portland incursion:

The Trump secret police never counted on facing this implacable, determined adversary: moms. Really pissed off moms... #NoSecretPolice #wallofmoms

You want to know how bad Trump’s messed up?

Here are the groups of Moms rising up to protest federal invasions.

Portland: @WallOfMoms

NYC: @WallofMoms_NYC

St. Louis: @StlWom

Chicago: @WallOfMomsChi

North Carolina: @WallofMomsNC

That’s right, groups of angry moms have assembled in cities all across the country, in order to fight back against Donald Trump’s vow to illegally take over American cities. Trump has a fairly consistent habit of trying to pull off the worst of his antics in secret, and then backing down if he gets caught and the pushback is massive. We’re guessing that if the pushback continues, he’ll back down on this too. After all, Trump is a coward – and moms aren’t.


GOP Feuding Linked to Trump Sinking In the Polls

“Tensions among congressional Republicans fueled by the party’s diminishing electoral fortunes broke out into the open this week — as GOP lawmakers sparred over the shape of the next coronavirus aid package, how vigorously to stand behind President Trump and which primaries to wade into that could help determine control of the Senate in November,” the Washington Post reports.

“The battles this week were a microcosm of the broader reckoning over the party’s future and how strong the populist tenets of Trumpism will hold after the president leaves office. The fractures are emerging now because of worries that the party faces doom at the polls this fall owing to Trump’s handling of the pandemic and his resulting falling poll numbers against presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.”


Polls Show Biden Is the ‘Law and Order’ Candidate

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump on the issue of “crime and safety” by nine points, 50% to 41%.

Aaron Blake: “The finding echoes what we’ve seen from other pollsters. A Pew Research Center poll from mid-June showed Biden led Trump 46% to 43% on which candidate could ‘effectively handle law enforcement and criminal justice issues.’ A Kaiser Family Foundation poll from late June directly employed the ‘law and order’ phrasing, finding voters trusted Biden to handle maintaining it by a 51-41 margin — virtually identical to the Post-ABC poll.”

“To the extent that there is a law-and-order candidate at this point, it appears to be Biden.”


Public’s Mood Turns Grim; Trump Trails Biden on Most Personal Traits, Major Issues
Just 17% say they are ‘proud’ when thinking about state of the U.S.


In the presidential contest, Donald Trump faces a 10 percentage point deficit in his race against Joe Biden: 54% of registered voters say if the election were held today, they would support Biden or lean toward voting for him, while 44% support Trump or lean toward supporting him.

Americans are deeply unhappy with the state of the nation. As the United States simultaneously struggles with a pandemic, an economic recession and protests about police violence and racial justice, the share of the public saying they are satisfied with the way things are going in the country has plummeted from 31% in April, during the early weeks of the coronavirus outbreak, to just 12% today.

53% majority says they are not hopeful about the current situation of the United States.


Biden Opens Up Wide Lead Nationally

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds Joe Biden is ahead of Donald Trump in the presidential race by 15 points among registered voters, 55% to 40%.

However, Biden’s margin reduces to 54% to 44% among likely voters.

Trump’s job approval is now 39% to 57%.

Key finding: “Trump’s recent decline in support is concentrated in states that have averaged at least 30 daily coronavirus cases per 100,000 residents over the past week, a group that includes Florida, Texas, Arizona and Georgia.”


Biden Widens His Electoral College Lead

Inside Elections has a new Electoral College forecast with Joe Biden beating Donald Trump 319 to 188 and just 33 electoral votes still a Toss Up.

“While the precise cause can be argued, Trump’s job rating has been on a precipitous decline over the last two months, not only putting a second term increasingly out of reach but potentially wreaking havoc on GOP candidates down the ballot…”

For comparison, the consensus electoral map has Biden leading 320 to 125 with 93 electoral votes still a Toss Up.


Trump Faces Widespread Distrust on Coronavirus

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds Americans’ views of President Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic have deteriorated significantly as cases rise across the country and personal fears of becoming infected persist.

Key finding: “More than half of the public — 52% — now disapproves ‘strongly’ of Trump’s handling of the outbreak, roughly double the percentage who say they strongly approve of his efforts and an increase from 36% in strong disapproval since March.”


Republicans See Trump Falling Into an Abyss

“A sudden shake-up of President Trump’s campaign was an attempt to refocus a reelection effort cratering under the weight of a deadly pandemic, a stalled economy and a national reckoning on racial injustice,” the Washington Post reports.

“But numerous Republicans and Trump allies said Thursday that the personnel overhaul — demoting Brad Parscale and replacing him with Bill Stepien as campaign manager — does little to address the main problem facing the struggling Trump campaign: the president himself and his chronically self-destructive behavior.”

“In Trump’s orbit and Republican circles, there is growing unease and even panic over Trump’s conduct as allies fret that the president, who lags behind presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden in both public and private polling, is free-falling into a political abyss.”


Trump’s 50% Problem

First Read says President Trump has a 50% problem:

50% of all registered voters in our poll “strongly” disapprove of the president.
50% say there is no chance at all they will vote for him.
50% say they’re “very uncomfortable” about his candidacy.
51% are backing Joe Biden in the horserace, versus 40% for Trump.
“One of the old maxims of American politics used to be that an incumbent (for any office) needs to be at 50% to be safe for re-election — otherwise there’s a majority of voters who exist that don’t support him or her. But Trump has a different problem at hand: He’s got 50% (or more) of the national electorate saying they strongly oppose him.”


Biden Leads In Arizona

A new OH Predictive Insights poll in Arizona finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in the presidential race, 49% to 44%.


Even If the Polls Are Really Off, Trump Is Still In Trouble

Nate Cohn: “With Joe Biden claiming almost a double-digit lead in national polls, one question still seems to loom over the race: Can we trust the polls after 2016?”

“It’s a good question. But for now, it’s not as important as you might guess. If the election were held today, Mr. Biden would win the presidency, even if the polls were exactly as wrong as they were four years ago.”

“The reason is simple: His lead is far wider than Hillary Clinton’s was in the final polls, and large enough to withstand another 2016 polling meltdown.”


Biden Expands Lead In Another Poll

A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds Joe Biden leading the presidential race nationally by 11 points, 51% to 40%.

Trump’s approval rate dropped to 42% to 56%.

Said pollster Peter Hart: “President Trump has hit the trifecta in the misery market. The three key indicators—job rating, personal feelings, attitudes on re-election—are all deeply submerged underwater. They represent the best measure of the standing and political strength of an incumbent president.”


Biden Widens Lead to 15 Points Nationally

A new Quinnipiac poll finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump nationally by 15 points, 52% to 37%.

Key finding: Trump’s approval rate is now a dismal 36% to 60% — a 6 point drop in his job approval compared to last month.

Said pollster Tim Malloy: “Yes, there’s still 16 weeks until Election Day, but this is a very unpleasant real time look at what the future could be for President Trump. There is no upside, no silver lining, no encouraging trend hidden somewhere in this poll for the president.”


Coronavirus Spins Out of Control While Trump Watches

Washington Post: “While most developed countries have managed to control the coronavirus crisis, the United States under Trump continues to spiral out of control, according to public health experts, with a staggering 4.1 million Americans infected and more than 146,000 dead.”

“There is no cohesive national strategy, apart from unenforced federal health guidelines. Instead, the administration is offering a patchwork of solutions, often in reaction to outbreaks after they occur. Although Trump and his team declare sweeping objectives, such as reopening schools, they have largely shirked responsibility for developing and executing plans to achieve them, putting the onus instead on state and local authorities.”


Trump Approval Hits New Lows

The Navigator tracking poll finds President Trump’s job approval rating has hit a new low in the history of the poll, 39% to 59%.

For comparison, the FiveThirtyEight polling average shows Trump’s approval at 40% to 55%.


Biden Way Ahead In Pennsylvania

A new Monmouth poll in Pennsylvania shows Joe Biden leading Donald Trump by 13 points among registered voters, 53% to 40%.

Key takeaway: “Biden is doing especially well in ten counties where the vote margins were closest in the 2016 presidential election. The Democrat currently holds a 54% to 35% lead among registered voters in these swing counties.”

Said pollster Patrick Murray: “Even taking into account any polling from four years ago, Biden is clearly doing well in swing areas over Clinton. The Democrat has roots in this region which may be helping him, but there seems to be an overall erosion of support for Trump compared to 2016.”


Biden Maintains Wide National Lead

A new Economist/YouGov poll finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in the presidential race nationally, 49% to 40%.

Trump’s job approval is now 39% to 54%.

A new Change Research poll finds Biden leading 51% to 41%. Biden also leads in six major battleground states:

Arizona: Biden 51%, Trump 45%
Florida: Biden 50%, Trump 43%
Michigan: Biden 48%, Trump 42%
North Carolina: Biden 47%, Trump 46%
Pennsylvania: Biden 50%, Trump 42%
Wisconsin: Biden 48%, Trump 42%


It’s Actually Trump That Has an Enthusiasm Problem

Michael Tesler: “First, while Biden voters may not be all that excited about voting for Biden, they’re very enthusiastic about voting against Trump. And that gives Biden a pretty strong edge, because Trump supporters don’t despise Biden the way they despised Hillary Clinton in 2016. In fact, according to survey data from the Democracy Fund + UCLA Nationscape project, the share of Trump voters who rate Biden unfavorably is consistently much lower than the share of Biden voters who rate Trump negatively — nearly 30 percentage points lower as of the last survey conducted at the end of June.”

“Second, because Trump voters don’t dislike Biden as much as Biden voters dislike Trump, Biden actually has an advantage in net enthusiasm (calculated as the difference between a candidate’s ‘very favorable’ and ‘very unfavorable’ rating). The gap on this metric has widened between the two in the past month, too.”
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #657 on: July 23, 2020, 11:00:56 AM »
The mayor of Portland @tedwheeler has been tear-gassed again alongside protestors by Trump federal paramilitary troops. Trump regime forces continue to threaten arrest and hide behind a metal fence. #PortlandProtests

Watch:
https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1286195733742227456

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #658 on: July 23, 2020, 11:30:41 AM »
Trump's Gestapo thugs beating and tear gassing Americans in Portland. No identification or badges on these stormtroopers. Trump's fascist America. 







Slide over









Peaceful protesters and wall of moms in Portland 





Trump stole the "America First" slogan from the Klan

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #659 on: July 23, 2020, 11:48:44 AM »
This is what Trump wants': Portland protesters call for peace as federal standoff continues
"Every single person should be scared of what's happening here," said resident Katrina Kerley. "We can't stand for this."


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-trump-wants-portland-protesters-call-peace-federal-standoff-continues-n1234631

Anyone who can’t understand how Hitler got his citizens to commit atrocities...and think it can’t happen here...just watch. This is some seriously terrifying police brutality that 6 months form now could be a whole lot worse...

https://twitter.com/AndyOstroy/status/1285752640656289799

Amercans understands Trump's political trap to pin violence on BLM protesters. Stay inside and vote! 

Watch video:

https://twitter.com/RetiredMaybe/status/1286112211757338624


No Badges, No IDs, and Rubber Bullets: How Trump’s Secret Police Are Going After Portland Protesters
The lack of identification makes it nearly impossible to hold them accountable.


PORTLAND — On Saturday, Jonny B. did what he’s done almost every night since late May: hop on his bicycle and ride from his North Portland home downtown to protest. Hours later, he was shot with a pepper ball just inches from his groin. Two others hit him in the chest, another hit him in the ankle.

“I’m standing right on the sidewalk,” said Jonny, who declined to give his full last name for fear of retaliation. He said someone in the crowd of demonstrators and journalists threw a water bottle at law enforcement agents, who then blanketed the area in tear gas. One canister landed at his feet. “I go to kick the canister away from me, and that’s when they started unloading the pepper balls.”

Ever since protests over the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor started in May, police departments across the country have used tear gas and impact munitions to disperse demonstrators. But over the last week-and-a-half in Portland, federal agents from the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Marshals Service have added to the violence — firing on crowds of protesters and journalists with a range of potentially life-threatening munitions, including rubber bullets and marking rounds. Several protesters have been hospitalized.

What’s more, no federal law specifically requires federal agents to wear identifying badges. That makes them nearly impossible to identify, and thus, held accountable if their use of force is outside of what the law allows.

“I haven’t seen — and I’ve been looking for them — any ID numbers,” Jonny said of federal agents’ uniforms. “Definitely no nameplates. They’re working as anonymously as they can.”

“It’s difficult to know who to sue because no one is identifying themselves and what agency they are with,” said Portland-based lawyer Beth Creighton, who’s representing independent journalists Chris Elia and Leslie McCam in a lawsuit against the city and other actors. “The police are saying, ‘Oh we don’t want to be named because we don’t want to be doxxed.’ But they’re also not being held accountable.”

It’s been horrific. It’s been like nothing I’ve ever seen.”

Despite the difficulty of identifying individual officers and distinguishing different agencies, lawsuits are piling up.

The Western States Center, a Portland church, and a collection of individuals are suing the federal government for violating the Tenth Amendment. Elia and McLam are suing the city, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, and police chief Chuck Lovell, among other parties, for violating their First, Fourth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has also jumped into the legal fight. The ACLU of Oregon and a partner law firm won a restraining order against the Portland Police Bureau (PPB) and the City of Portland on behalf of a group of journalists and legal observers to stop the police from arresting or otherwise harassing their clients. The organization has now added the federal agencies acting in Portland to its suit, as well.

ACLU co-counsel Matthew Borden argued that officers are targeting journalists deliberately and called the situation a “constitutional crisis of the highest order.”

“It’s been horrific,” he said. “It’s been like nothing I’ve ever seen.”

The U.S. Department of Justice office of the Inspector General has also opened an investigation into what happened to Donovan LaBella last Sunday, when a deputy U.S. Marshal shot the 26-year-old protester in the head with an impact munition and fractured his skull. He underwent facial reconstructive surgery hours after the shooting and is now recovering at a local hospital.

But that investigation hasn’t stopped law enforcement from using those munitions in excessive force. On Monday night, Maureen Haley, chair of the history department at Lewis & Clark College, was shot just above the eye with a similar impact munition while peacefully protesting with a family member downtown. Haley went to the hospital to treat her wound.

In addition to peaceful protesters, a number of journalists have also been hit.

Independent reporter Jake Johnson, 33, decided to begin filming the downtown protests only after seeing fellow Portland journalists arrested by Portland Police Bureau (PPB) officers. While out with his camera on Sunday night, he was hit with an impact munition in the stomach, just below the rib cage.

“I’m walking on the path in Chapman [Square] sort of towards the corner, pretty slowly,” Johnson said. “I’ve got my camera, I’ve got my helmet, which is pretty clearly labeled press on the front, back, and top, and then, all of the sudden, out of the blue, they shoot me.”

Just hours after Johnson was shot on Sunday night, freelance journalist Donovan Farley was hit with a non-lethal bullet and tweeted that he left the scene of the protest because he was struggling to breathe.

Jungho Kim, a freelance photographer from San Francisco who arrived in Portland to document the protests, was also hit directly in the chest on Sunday night despite wearing a neon vest clearly labeled “PRESS.” Gabriel Trumbly, a U.S. Army veteran who has worked as a photographer with the Portland chapter of the National Lawyers Guild was also hit with a non-lethal munition on Sunday night in his hand.

The federal intervention in Portland — over the objections of Wheeler and Oregon Gov. Kate Brown — has terrified the nation. But those on the ground are quick to make clear that the conduct of federal officers in the city is simply a progression of the tactics used against protesters and journalists by the city police force — which is now, by all appearances, cooperating with the federal agents.

“What I’m seeing is blatant, excessive abuse of force,” Jonny said. “Sure, I’m seeing a little bit of petty vandalism — graffiti, broken windows, that kind of stuff. But that is being returned from state forces with physical violence, causing people to go to the hospital, causing people to bleed, causing people real threats to their lives. For me, that is unjustifiable.”

The ACLU’s next motion will be heard on Thursday. In the meantime, the protests — contrary to what President Donald Trump says — are picking up steam. Tuesday night’s demonstration was the biggest in weeks, with a group of mothers linking arms, leading the crowd in song, and chanting “fuck the police.”

“More people are getting involved,” Jonny said. “More people are getting angry. More people are showing up to fight back.”

Cover image: Left: Gabriel Trumbly's finger shortly after being hit with an impact munition in downtown Portland, Oregon, on July 19; Center: Jake Johnson's stomach several hours after being hit with an impact munition in downtown Portland, Oregon, on July 19; Right: Jonny B’s ankle, one of the places he was hit with impact munitions in downtown Portland, Oregon, on July 18. (All photos courtesy of sources)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5dzw43/how-trumps-secret-police-are-going-after-portland-protesters-rubber-bullets

 

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